what if the Hussein sons were the informants?

[nini]

I heard a guy talking in the lunchroom today that he wouldn't be surprised if the demon sons setup body doubles and were the informants telling the army where 'they' were. Then everyone would think they were dead - then could claim the reward to then turn around and make the US look stupid.

Everyone in the room thought he was a nut.... but ..hmmmmm

Not saying I think this is what is going on , but it's really not as crazy as everyone thought .. I wouldn't put anything past those two.

[PinkTiger]

1. Right.

And they are going on CNN soon to say, "NAnaNaNANANa!!!" We are still alive and want the money!!!!

First, it wouldn't work because they aren't dead.
Second, it wouldn't work because somebody from CNN would turn them in and get the money.

Think, dammit! Think!!!!

Ha.

[Maple]

2. Or they could send a photo of themselves

from Baghdad...holding a newspaper with the headlines and pictures of the corpses.

[nini]

3. actually, they would say 'neener neener neener'

:-)

I know it sounds nuts... I think I am trying to show how insane all of this has gotten..

I wouldn't put anything past anyone on either side these days. I'm not sure what's true anymore..

but then, THAT'S WHY I HANG OUT AT DU - TO SEEK THE TRUTH. :-)

[PinkTiger]

4. Where you from, nini???

In my neck of the woods, its NA NA NA NA NAAAAA Na.

Never heard of Neener Neener. Must be some East Coast thing, or some Northerner thing.

Of course, here in the South, we'd just bring those Hussein boys into our homes and treat them right nice, noddin' and smilin', and then have ourselves a little public hangin'.

LOL :silly:

[nini]

6. Southern calif.. L.A. area

na na na na works here too. never heard of neener neener huh? I don't even remember where it came from

you brining up the hanging reminds me of when the 'Night Stalker' Richard Ramirez was caught in East L.A. (I think it was the early 80s - he terrorized so. cal one summer). Anyway, he was caught in east L.A. in a very rough area by a bunch of locals.. he was stealing a car of something. They didn't realize right away who he was and did so right before the sherrif got there. If the sheriff had arrived about 2 minutes later.. Ramirez would have been on his way to meet his maker. Good ol street justice there. Don't know why I brought that up :-)

[PinkTiger]

8. I don't get out much....

Actually, I lived in SF area during the Zodiac years (Zodiac Killer). Your mentioning RR brought back memories. Lived in Marin when Janis Joplin was living there and the Grateful Dead were just getting their start. ****Sigh!***** so many memories.
Now I live back home in the Ozarks;
What a life.

[Booberdawg]

5. They are really dead

I think they would have liked to set up their own deaths if they could, but body doubles could not have been verified through dental records and DNA. I believe it is really them.

As far as our Gov't faking their deaths, I don't go along with the conspiracy theorists on this one. There is just too much to go wrong by trying to fake their deaths. It's just too far-fetched. They are really dead.

I seem to be in the minority all the way around on the brothers. It doesn't bother me in the least that they were killed. Not a bit. They had months to surrender if they wanted to. It was a war zone and when our troops were fired upon they shot the shit out of them. That is what war is about. I was opposed to this war, and I still am. But once our troops are there, that is what they are trained to do. I don't expect them to take half measures.

As far as airing the photos of the bodies, I can see both sides. The purpose was to convince the Iraqi people that they were really dead. While it offended some, it satisfied many others. The decision was made for the Iraqi people, not for the rest of the world. They are used to seeing public hangings and worse and a multitude of atrocities, so I doubt it was as horrifying to see pictures of dead people in Iraq as it was to some of us here. As distasteful as it seems to us, I tend to agree with the decision to show the Iraqi people the boys were really dead. Even so, some of them still aren't sure they believe it.

And that is my constitutionally protected opinion.

[nini]

7. The point is we have been lied to so much.. can we believe the DNA..

..or dental records are real. I know what you mean about faking this is too risky but many people simply do not know what the truth is anymore.


I am leaning towards them being dead.. but I still have nagging doubts. Sad really - that I can't believe this unconditionally.


btw.... I haven't heard much of the DNA.. how did they get the results so fast? did they compare to another relative or did they already have something of theirs to compare to? thx.

[Booberdawg]

9. I'm with you 100%

on being constantly lied to by this administration. It's always a lie that benefits them in some way politically or saves them some embarrassment or puffs themselves up somehow. But lying about this is far too risky and very little to gain. They would surely be found out. Think about it?? The boys could turn up the next day on Al Jazzera. It would be a disaster for the bush crime family. There's just no way the rumster et all is making this up. They just got lucky.

I don't think they have the final DNA results yet. I stand to be corrected if they do. They do have dental records and xrays and ID of the people who ratted them, I think.

I just hope it blows over in a couple days and the news gets back to the 911 scandal and the pages redacted to save embarrassment for the bush crime family. Back to the lack of WMD's. Back to the naked OIL grab. Back to the total ruination of the economy and the job market. Back to the criminal neglect of the business of THE PEOPLE for the sake of corporate America. Back to running the crooks out of the White House.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

10. Have you ever thought that maybe the Hussein brothers are in on the lie?

After all, it was very surprising that the the three Iraqi forces (the Republican Guard, Special Republican Guard, and Saddam Fedayeen) that were commanded by Uday and Qusay Hussein (don't hear that in the media much do we?) gave up Baghdad without a fight. Perhaps we are seeing another part of the deal made to secure Baghdad without a bloodbath?

Remember, the Husseins know as much about the Bush family and its dirty dealings as anyone, and I would be willing to bet that they have some of those envelopes that are to be distributed upon their death...

As far as I am concerned, all the evidence from during the war and after points to the Husseins and Bush doing a deal. Call it a transfer of ownership between madmen...

In fact I bet Osama has a few of those envelopes as well...

[Booberdawg]

11. I respectfully disagree

(Although I often like to take the Devils Advocate position <G>)

It doesn't surprise me in the least that they would give up without a fight. Our military is far superior. I thought they would fight to the death and it would be stupid on their part. They scattered and now they are alive to fight another day. In fact, look at the problems it is causing our troops now??

Although I'm with you on one thing - that the Husseins probably know far more about the Bush Crime Family's dirty laundry than we do.

I just don't subscribe to any theories that the Hussein boys deaths were faked. I think they were really killed. And the timing was just lucky. But, the news will blow over, and I'm not convinced boy king will get much, if any, of a bump in the polls over it. He's got too much stink all around him right now.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

12. Bull!

It doesn't surprise me in the least that they would give up without a fight. Our military is far superior.

That's what they said about Viet Nam too. And Afghanistan... Didn't work in either of those nations, and you expect me to believe that the Iraqis didn't notice that?

They proclaimed right from the beginning that they were going to draw the US into the streets of Baghdad and turn them into a bloodbath. They could have, would have, and pretty soon will have, and yet you expect me to believe they just decided to give up?

What about the admission from the US military that Iraqi commanders did indeed do a deal to abandon Baghdad? Remember that the commanders of the Republican Guards, the Special Republican Guards and the Saddam Fedayeen are the two men said to have been killed in that raid.

But I guess the Glorious US Military could not possibly lie to avoid being exposed as having done a deal with the devil to avoid doing the hard yards.

[Astarho]

13. You mean like

The US set up the raid, puts in a few bloated, unrecognizable corpses, and tells the world it's Uday and Qusay? While the real U&Q (with some plastic surgery perhaps) get flown out to a nice estate to spend the rest of their lives in quiet seclusion perhaps in Bahrain or the UAE.

As for dental and DNA records, we all can't be in the lab when the results come in, we have to rely on a talking head on CNN/MSNBS/FOX/etc. to tell us that "The results match and it really was U&Q. Really!"

[Devils Advocate NZ]

14. Exactly...

And in return, Bush gets his nice relatively bloodless war that doesn't destroy him politically. Well at least not because tens of thousands of soldiers died while trying to seize Baghdad, that is.

This has the added benefit of allowing people to say "We beat Saddam twice without thousands of casualties, so why shouldn't we think the same will happen when we attack Syria or Iran or..." while conveniently forgetting that the US never actually seized Baghdad by force.

[Ashes]

15. those plastic faces

were something to behold.