Would it make a difference if we lost the presidency in 2004

[CatWoman]

but regained control of congress?

No investigations will take place as long as Congress is run by the Republicans.

Of course I want the presidency back -- it was stolen from us, the country, the whole world.

But if I had a choice or say in the matter I could live with that senario.

[neuvocat]

1. Congress holds the real power in this country.

The pres is a figurehead so that's why I tend to be more concerned about the "midterm" elections.

[bamademo]

2. I could live with that also

They could start impeachment proceedings.

[Hep]

3. Problem is

people love electing incumbents to congress.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

4. That's a really good point, Catwoman.

I think that's halfway to bearable.

[buddhamama]

5. we need Congress

in Democratic hands.

glad i am not the only one who thinks so.

[ringmastery]

7. Would it make a difference?

really? when we have DINO's voting for Bush's crap medicare plan.

[CatWoman]

9. The usual suspects

Breaux, Miller are not up for reelection.

[blm]

6. We can take back Congress only with a strong top of the ticket.

Like it or not, fair or not, the bottom of the ticket will be linked to the top name. Whatever the top can be smeared with, the bottom will be associated no doubt.

[Zomby Woof]

8. if pink tutu Dems take over

It won't make much of a difference. :-(

[CatWoman]

12. I think it would make a difference

if they were in power.

[Zomby Woof]

14. ehhhhh

I reserve the right to be cynical about THAT. History hasn't shown the Dems to have any guts in Congress since Iran-Contra, and that didn't yield much but a few pardons by Bush Sr when he left office over 5 years after the hearings.

I think the Dems are going to be shut out of Congress for another 10 years or more.

[ibegurpard]

10. I would say you are correct

However, I think it will be harder to take congress than the presidency.

[eissa]

11. That's a big IF

I just shudder at the thought of another 4 years of shrub with a repuke-controlled congress :scared:

[CaptainClark23]

13. Given the Patriot Act

I'd say no, that would not an an acceptable alternative.

All these bozos need is one more cataclysm (genuine or engineered) for POTUS to declare martial law or its practical equivalent in the interests of national security. And we certainly didn't need Franks to alert us to this possibility.

Nope. We need to take the White House out of the direct control of the cabal. Even if it means having a patsy in there. At least that'll buy us some time to try and take our nation back.

[izzie]

15. Win or not win things do go up and down.

We may have to see thing go even more down before it starts up once more. I do think world wide we are moving into a progressive movement and not much anyone can do about it. This looks like the dying power sruggle of the laissiz faire capital society as it goes under.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. We must have congress too.

Nothing will ever be accomplished if we don't win a majority in both houses. My hope is that we win the presidency, both houses of congress and start a MAJOR investigation into the Bush administration. I would love to see the entire PNAC group end up in prison for the rest of their lives. <sigh> I can hope.

[Zomby Woof]

17. Kick

CatWoman deserves more discussion than this. Any thread not about Dean/Clark/Nader is a good thread. :-)

[CatWoman]

18. bwahahahahahahaha

you are TOO much!!

:D

:hi:

[GreenPartyVoter]

19. Progressives need to take

the whole shebang to really make a difference now.

[buddhamama]

20. it could make a difference

it could mean that, the country enjoys Bozo as their leader but they don't trust him enough to run the country.

if we go by the "...politics are local" thinking than it would mean that, on a 'local' scale more people trust the DEMs with the everyday
running of the country. it should be a priority.

[AntiCoup2K4]

21. I believe the White House AND the Senate is completely realistic....

Of course it would be even more so if Kerry, Edwards, and Lieberman would abandon their lost cause Presidential campaigns and concentrated on being Senators. A gain of 2 senate seats isn't that difficult. The house may be less likely, though I certainly wouldn't complain if we did regain all three. And even then we might have to deal with endless obstructionism like the shit Dole & Gingrich pulled from 92 - 94... But I'd take that anyday over the current fascist in the White House and "leadership" that can't LEAD in the congress.

[tnlefty]

22. I think that it would make a huge difference.

Since Congress has relinquished a lot of the powers that it should have to the executive branch I think that it would matter a great deal. I heard Pat Buchannon railing about this one morning earlier this week on c-span and he came damned near to calling them a bunch of cowards. Be nice to have more Dems in the legislative branch, too, to have more of a voice on judicial appointments, etc.