Wouldn't it be something if *W would not seek or accept the nomination....

[baby_bear]

I was just watching something about Johnson when he bowed out and he really did in fact shock most people by declining to run.

I just wish to high heaven that someone, something, would convince Bush that he should step aside as well.

Wouldn't it be nice?


Gee, sounds like a song.

*sigh*
s_m

[Wulfian]

1. Presidents knee deep in corruption

always want a second term. They salivate for it. mmmmmore pork mmmmmore handouts mmmmmmmmore corporate wellfare mmmmmore hate-islature.

He loves being the scum of the Earth.

[madrchsod]

2. nice site

needs alittle filling but pretty cool so far....

[canucksvt]

6. Presidents knee deep in corruption

Quote by Wulfian: always want a second term. They salivate for it. mmmmmore pork mmmmmore handouts mmmmmmmmore corporate wellfare mmmmmore hate-islature.

He loves being the scum of the Earth.

Reply by canucksvt: Just like William Jefferson Clinton, and even the Democratic Icon...FDR, who served almost 4 terms. I guess this would make FDR the ultimate scum of the earth. Rediculous post Wulfian. Just plain rediculous.

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[scipan]

19. quote by canucksvt: rediculous post Wulfian. Just plain rediculous.

Wulfian said that corrupt politicians always want a second term, not that all politicians who want a second term are corrupt.

Basic logic.

[liberalcapitalist]

18. LBJ wasn't corrupt?

n/t

[CSI Willows]

3. Bliss

It would be the nicest thing in the world....it's doubtful that he won't accept the nomination. Sadly.

[Yupster]

4. I think it's possible

but then I thought Saddam would fly out of Iraq right before we invaded and go into exile.

[CreekDog]

5. In 2001 before 9-11, Bush frequently said...

"if I run" to various advisors in the White House. I don't think he's a patient man, he is extremely determined, but he can turn on a dime if he decides to.

Remember the T-day trip, how he was prepared to turn on a dime if word leaked out. And what do you bet it would be to punish the press rather than ensure his safety. But that's another matter.

Just goes to show you what we are dealing with here.

[maddezmom]

7. more hopeful Cheney replaced

so he can cash out on his blind trust and reap the benefits of war with his Halliburton stocks. :mad:

[Silverhair]

11. What if Cheney quit, & W replaced him with Condi?

There are some RWs that are pushing for exactly that.

[maddezmom]

16. it's a toss up

they both scare the hell out of me. :(

[Yupster]

17. I don't see why he'd run with Cheney again

He can pick anyone he wants. He has a chance to be historic. I expect him to take it.

I expect Bush-Powell.

[forgethell]

9. Never happen

the pitiful protests that have so far been mounted against Bush* and his policies in no way resemble the massive civil disorder mounted against Johnson, except maybe in the pomposity of some of the spokemen for them. I don't mean this as a slam at the idea of stopping the war, or against bush. But people now, and people then do not like to be lectured, and that is what many of them do.

In addition, Johnson managed to lose the South, which meant that he had no slack in the electoral college. His own party had deserted him over his mishandling of the Vietnam War, and the Republicans sure weren't going to vote for him. Johnson wisely decided to cut his losses, as it was obvious that he was un-electable..

Just now, if I am interpreting the polls correctly, * is at least even in the polls, and beats any candidate we currently have running, one-on-one. Now, a lot can happen before Election Day. But right now, it doesn't look very likely. We have a chance to get Bush out, but not because he's made it easy for us.

[BiggJawn]

10. Wouldn't it be nice if I won the PowerBall?

About the same chance of that happening.
Shrub is PNAC's "Charlie McCarthy" and that's all there is to it. They don't have a "back-up plan". this bunch is pretty shallow in their strategy, I don't care how much of an evil genius Rove is. Look at what happened in Iraq when the "dancing in the streets-throwing flowers" scenario didn't materialize...

[AP]

12. If Dean got nominated and were getting anywhere close to Bush (which I

think unlikely, unless something very dramatic comes out, like a record of a cocaine conviction, or something like that) I think that Bush would almost definitely drop out.

It'd be just like Lautenberg in NJ. If a candidate has totally defined himself around his opponent, and is having success, then the smartest strategy is to drop that thing by which the candidate defines himself, ie, Bush in that situtaiton.

[bobthedrummer]

13. The thought of impeachment still floats through my mind every now

and then, too. Impeach the neo-conservative war profiters and traitors, that is what a democracy would do.

[TomNickell]

14. Johnson...

by many accounts was genuinely anguished over the deaths of soldiers and the protests.

He was an actual political leader who fought for issues he cared about. Vietnam destroyed him.

I don't see any of this in *.

[Zomby Woof]

15. why it will NEVER happen

(Are you hitting the wine early? I mean even contemplating such an unattainable fantasy... ;-) )

Johnson was a political realist who knew which way the wind blew. He may have had a massive ego, and just for that reason, he would have rather not run than get trounced by Nixon in the general election.

But Bush? He has a messiah complex, he was chosen by god, he has a special mission for America, he sees the world in absolutist B&W terms, he will save us from terra, etc etc etc... The fundie mindset of Bush will NOT allow him to admit being wrong, defeat, or any other failure or flaw.

:hi:

[leetrisck]

20. What if he just quit? Now

Gene Lyons wrote an article about him never completing anything and failing at all he attempted and every time he failed, he failed "upward." Lyons words were "so where does he fall upward" from here. (Not direct quote)