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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:02 PM
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I bet Bushie just flew to
To Alaska or Germany They never left the airport right?? Just landed the planed rolled into a hanger from there they went to the mess hall and back? The plane windows were blacked out the whole time so how can the reporters be sure they went to Iraq no other media that were already in Iraq were in the “Mess Hall” I say Bush was never in Iraq
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:06 PM
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1. You've seen "Capricorn One" too many times...
:)
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:12 PM
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2. I am curious too


Has anyone seen any footage that comes close to showing that he actually was in Iraq? So far,all I have seen is him in that tent which is not very convincing.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:14 PM
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3. plane windows blacked out?
what was the official reason for that?
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:19 PM
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4. They pulled all the shades down so no light from inside the plane would
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 05:21 PM by A HERETIC I AM
be visible. If you have ever seen an airliner landing at night, the interior lighting is clearly visible through the windows. no light = difficult to see the aircraft. It was also reported that they landed without landing lights and marker/ID/Tip lights.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:21 PM
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5. A DUer recgonized her nephew whom she knew to be in Iraq.
so you can take off the tinfoil hat. Unless you want to say that the DUer is really a Bush operative.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:28 PM
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6. That doesn't mean

They couldn't have moved the unit for a day. the relatives would have no way of knowing exactly where the troops were at any given time.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:06 PM
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8. Photoshop
the nephew.

It is possible.
I am NOT saying that that is what happened but it IS a possiblity.
More so considering the way * behaved on September 11,2001.
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grok Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:41 PM
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7. You are fishing too much...
One, what are you going to do with the 600 or so soldiers who were there? Shoot them all so they don't talk?

Two,how do you orchestrate this with known reporters in tow? The reporters in question are not known for stupidity.

Three, there was a soldier freeper there and commenting on it for hours. Even before the public knew it. He kept the location a secret till dubya left. The freepers knew long before anybody else.

In short, TOO many witnesses.

Grok

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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:12 PM
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9. A soldier freeper!!
The freepers knew before anyone else did?

That must mean that Rove does not think that al qaeda monitors that website. Or that it doesn't matter if they do.

And I am in COMPLETE shock at the idea of a FREEPER actually putting on a uniform when there is the slightest chance of being shot with even a paintball.
I simply cannot comprehend the concept of a SOLDIER freeper!!!
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:34 PM
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10. stupidity
grok wrote:
"Two,how do you orchestrate this with known reporters in tow? The reporters in question are not known for stupidity."

umm, they were Fox reporters weren't they?
:smoke:
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grok Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:51 AM
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12. actually, I think the freeper's head will roll
I think he will be visited soon. It COULD have been deduced where he was. I bet he will be visited soon.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1029949/posts?q=1&&page=1

Grok

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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 08:10 PM
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11. apparently air force one was spotted
by a british airways pilot who nearly gave the game away.

"O I say," said the British pilot "wasn't that airforce one that just went by?" :-(
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:28 AM
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13. UNRESOLVED QUESTIONS
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 10:30 AM by Ivote
1. where was the british pilot when he spotted af1
2. where was NORAD and AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS not to be able to spot af1
3. what countries would it have had to fly over to reach iraq
4. wouldnt af1 have to notify those countries that it was flying in its air space
5. doesnt af1 have escort planes and af2 fly with it
6.why werent the other planes spotted
7.IF AF1 AND ITS ESCORT PLANES COULD FLY FROM EDWARDS AFB TO IRAQ UNDETECTED COULDNT IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE AL QUIDA DO THE SAME THING IN REVERSE
8 where was homeland security
9. Why are we paying so much money for secret service and security if he can just sneak around undetected
Like i said, I have no answers just unresolved questions.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:56 PM
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14. some answers, i hope
1. where was the british pilot when he spotted af1
over the Atlantic, headed to the US
2. where was NORAD and AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS not to be able to spot af1
who says they werent?
3. what countries would it have had to fly over to reach iraq
Israel (ally) Jordan (same) It would fly from Maryland, out over the Atlantic, through the Straits of Gibralter, down the center of the Mediterranean Sea, over Israel and Jordan and into Baghdad.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm
4. wouldnt af1 have to notify those countries that it was flying in its air space
Yes, but it could have posed as any military aircraft. They are flying over there all the time
5. doesnt af1 have escort planes and af2 fly with it
Not necessarily. Depends on the mission.
6.why werent the other planes spotted
because they werent there?
7.IF AF1 AND ITS ESCORT PLANES COULD FLY FROM EDWARDS AFB TO IRAQ UNDETECTED COULDNT IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE AL QUIDA DO THE SAME THING IN REVERSE
Edwards is in the Mojave Desert in California. Air Force One is based at Andrews AFB in Maryland. umm.....Al queda doesnt have an air force! And even if they did, the answer would be no.
8 where was homeland security
Irrelevant in this case
9. Why are we paying so much money for secret service and security if
he can just sneak around undetected
That is the BEST question, i think!
Like i said, I have no answers just unresolved questions.

Hope that helped a little
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