I'm telling you now. That's not the Hussein boy's

[Robin Hood]

I just saw the pics of the supposed Hussein boy's on TV and immediately i could tell that it was not them. They may have been fighters but they were not the Hussein boy's. AFter all of the pictures that we have been shown of them, I did not get the same feeling about whoever was in those photos as I got from other photos of them. Beard or not, it does not matter, it was not them.

Whoever "snitched" them out, is probably trying to help the boy's by faking their deaths. Just think of how free you can be if everyone thought that you were not only dead but your supposed corpse was in the custody of your enemy?

Either the Iraqi informant is duping us or the Penta House is duping us.

What do you think? Is that the Hussein boys?

[Catherine Vincent]

1. I don't think it's them either.

I would think they wouldn't be in Iraq at all.

[Tinoire]

2. I don't either but let's pretend... Let's keep 'Rovesfeld' happy! n/t

[Robin Hood]

4. Well in that case

The other two bodies may turn out to be Usama and Saddam.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. That's been my feeling all along

The press is exploiting the "all Iraqis look alike to me" angle.
WHY , if they each had, conservatively, 100 million in cash with them (conservatively)would they stay in Iraq?

Further, if they WERE still in Iraq, why would they be together with one body guard only? Even when they were in control, they went everywhere with 10-15 bodyguards.

Nope, Doesn't add up.

[HFishbine]

6. Why

would unwanted men fight to the death?

[karlschneider]

14. Look at some of the pictures...soldiers are standing out in the open durin

during the supposed "fierce fire-fight"...
:eyes:

[bluedog]

8. an editor in Iraq

said 80% of the Iraqis think these are "fabricated" they heard the bodies were burnt...now they want DNA proof..he is an editor of a newspaper in Iraq...couldn't catch the name of the paper.but his name is Ayyash...

[deutsey]

5. Honestly, I didn't think it was them either

Just based on the other photos I've seen of them when they were alive.

If these are them, is it possible the trauma of their death could have disfigured them in some way (e.g., made them bloated)?

[twilight]

26. like the 'fat' OBL?

I am not convinced either. How does anyone know who these two men are? I don't see any real resemblence either. It reminds me of that 'fat' Osama tape that was supposedly him.

The Iraqi people are not stupid. I'd be very surpised if these pictures are actually them.

In any event, I find having these pictures shown on television is a disgrace! Do people like having their children look at mutilated dead men on television? :wtf: have we come to as a human race I ask? This is plain SICK!!!

Also, no DNA now? :wtf: Sounds like another lie, another cover-up IMO.

:kick:

[stopthegop]

7. didn't get the same feeling about whoever was in those photos?

got anything withing shouting distance of rational?..that's just silly...they may not be the sons, but 'feelings' don't prove it

[Robin Hood]

10. You're calling my intuition irrational?

And who the fuck are you to judge my common sense. Just look at the fucking pictures and make your own assesment. How could I go on anything else but my intuition? I can't trust whtat my government is telling me, and I can't do the DNA tests on the corpses my self. So what do I have left? A feeling, which I have learned to trust over the years.

Go piss on someone elses post.

[stopthegop]

11. ok

have a good evening

[alaine]

21. They say they have dental records, and if they have

those then why can't they get DNA? I remember seeing a picture of an American soldier lying on on of the brother's beds after the invasion of Bagdad. Surely they thought to at least grab some hair out of a hairbrush, or a toothbrush or something. Do they have prints on them? The thing about photo i.d. is an absolute joke. What with each one of them having so many doubles and having forced some of the doubles to have plastic surgery. How dumb do they think we are?

[King_Crimson]

9. NO...ABSOLUTELY NOT...

These Fascist bastards think everybody is as stupid as they are. Tell me...that video in the cave of Osama about a year and a half ago...think that was him?

[Walt Starr]

12. I know I'll be flamed, but I'm at least 65% sure it was them

I compared the pics to pics of them alive. I'm 65% convinced they got them.

[qanda]

15. No flame here...

I couldn't tell one way or the other, nor do I care one way or the other. I had never even heard their names before we went into this illegal war and dare I say that since a good portion of Americans cannot even name the Vice-President or one member of the Administration, I was not alone.

[qandnotq]

16. 90% convinced here

I just used the Google image search to get comparison photos of them live. It looks like an awfully good photo match to me. If those aren't Uday & Qusay, then it's an intentional deception -- maybe a couple of doubles who got set up.

[Walt Starr]

17. That's why I'm only 65% convinced

I know they had doubles and the pictures I've seen of them vary a bit, so I'm not certain that the live photos I'm comparing to are not, in fact, doubles.

[Robin Hood]

19. Oy!

You're making me dizzy.

[Robin Hood]

18. I couldn't find the corpse photos on google, could you?

post the link if you did find the corpse pics.

[qandnotq]

20. no, just live shots. corpses are on cnn.com though

[marshmellow]

13. let's make a deal

Could it be a negotiated agreement with Saddam for a surrender. Saddam wants his sons protected by fictitious deaths and he will come out of the cold. A win-win for all.

[maveric]

22. Nope, aint them!

I cant see any conclusive resemblance to the Hussein bros. I see two brown arabic men and my comparisons do not convince me at all.
Unfortunately the gullible and easily misled US public will just accept this.

[Robin Hood]

23. You're probably right.

You've seen one ________, you've seen them all.
fill in blank

[nini]

24. really check out the features..

like nose shape, eye shape etc..


uh no, I don't think it's them.

[Walt Starr]

37. I was concentrating on the ears

The faces seemed to be pretty torn up, especially around the nose region of Uday's.

Qusay's ear and the ears of whoever is in the photos that are claimed to be Qusay are dead on matches.

[Alenne]

25. I wouldn't know if it was them

because I have never seen them. Most people in this country don't know what they look like and our government knows that.

[Walt Starr]

28. I've seen pictures that were supposed to be them

but since they have doubles, the pictures could ahve been of the doubles and not them.

[Fleshdancer]

27. My opinion: no for Qusay, yes for Uday

The one of Uday looks like it could be him, but compare the natural hairline on the side of the face of Quasay's live pic to his dead pic. They don't match.

oooh! This is my first conspiracy theory. Exciting! lol

[CWebster]

29. Qusay has a ridge above his brow

Do you see it in the comparison?

[Walt Starr]

47. That's something I didn't notice

Still, about 65% sure they got them.

[Robin Hood]

30. You're no longer an innocent.

We'll try and be gentle. but you may want to wear some protection.
:tinfoilhat:

[gasperc]

31. better trot out ALL the evidence

it ain't nothing but a thing for resistance fighters to drag out imposters and claim they are the real uday and qusay, and after a period of bungling try to restore our credibility which is already pretty much in the mud.

[stopbush]

33. Couldn't dental records be faked?

That's what the bushies are using for ID. But what if the dental records they're using are fake? What if the records on file for the brothers were actually those of the brothers' doubles? Or, more morbidly, what if the doubles were doubles all the way down to the dental records (ouch!)?

(You know the joke about Saddam's double? Saddam's henchman visits his double after a grenade attack against Saddam and sez, "I've got good news and bad news. The good news - Saddam is alive, so you still have a job. The bad news? He's lost an arm and a leg...")

DNA tests would clear the whole thing up. As the bodies are in the possession of our government, there should be NO problem running such tests.

[Robin Hood]

32. My local news just showed the pics and said

that a mojority of Iraqi's are not convinced that those are the brothers.


Please note: I have no love for these bastards and wish that they were dead, but i don't think that's them.

[Ekaterina]

35. rut roh

after all this trouble to show the "liberated" citizens blown apart pics of those terrible people and the damned Iraqis have the unmitigated GALL to be skeptical of the nice truth telling freedom loving Americans who are just there looking out for their oil -- oopps! welfare!!!!???? How DARE they question what they're told. That's it! Curfew!! No electricity!! No water!!! No peace!!!! No security until you ACCEPT AND OBEY!!!!! oh, wait......whoops

:bounce:

Personally, I don't believe ANYTHING I hear from this cabal of cowards and their Prince of Lies.

[Zan_of_Texas]

34. Look at the timing, not the photos

Has there been a worse two-week period for the Bush administration? Remember Jessica Lynch -- that made-for-TV stuff popped up in the middle of very bad news coming out of Iraq -- just at the right time.

These kinds of things are really predictable if you take the time to go back and look at news on given days. When the Bushies really need something good or big to happen to drown out seriously bad news, it happens.

I've spent months doing chronologies, and it is uncanny how it works.

I don't need to look at pictures. My opinion is they pulled this out of a hat because they needed some really "good" news. Sept. 11 report coming out, continuing nagging burrs about dead scientist and yellowcake -- what better time to bring out the dead bodies and claim them to be the boys. They can always claim later that it was an honest mistake, if it's ever proven.

In conclusion -- I believe the timing is just too lucky, and I don't believe it's them.

Watch for news of Saddam's or Osama's death to come out before the 2004 elections, or whenever needed the most.

[CWebster]

36. YEP

.

[Fleshdancer]

40. Here's my bet:

Osama will be "found" (dead of course) the day before Bush makes his speech at the GOP convention. The setting is perfect...in NYC near where the towers once stood, in September just in time for the anniversary, Rudy Guilianni will be there. Now wouldn't that just be lovely?

[FubarFly]

44. These photos could have been taken at any time.

We don't know that they depicted the bodies which came from the house.

They certainly weren't taken in the house.

And the bodies were whisked away in a super covert fashion.

So who knows? Maybe they are just screwing with us.

Lucky for me, I've brought protection: :tinfoilhat:

[Exultant Democracy]

38. The facial hair

is pretty convenient. They both had pretty noticeable clefts in their chins, but with the beards we can see if the clefts are or are not there.

[JustJoe]

39. These pics are worse

quality than the phony JFK autopsy pics.
Cdnt they call in a professional photog
with lighting & photograph them head-on
& shave them? If theyre going to go ahead in
the face of moral & int'l legal concerns &
show the photos, then at least do it so it
accomplishes what they want--IF it is them.
I read the thread
before seeing the photos & thought it was just
another bunch of DUer conspiracists. I was ready
to believe it was them, and it may be them. But
there's no way I can tell from those pictures.
And if I were an Iraqi terrified of these
guys, there's no way I wd believe the American
claim that these are the H Bros.

[Fleshdancer]

41. Just a friendly repeat...

Look at the Qasay comparison photos on cnn.com. Compare the natural hairline on the left side of the face of the before and after pics.

[qandnotq]

42. I don't see any difference

what am I missing?

[Fleshdancer]

48. Are we looking at the same pictures?

I looked at the photo gallery on cnn.com where they compare the two pictures of Qusay. In both pictures you see the left side of his face but the hairline from the top of his forehead down to his ear looks different.

[Walt Starr]

50. The hairline is a dead on match if you ask me

Of course that does not discount the possibility that the before picture is really of a double.

[birdman]

43. There's no upside to faking the killings

If the Bushies did that the Husseins could show up
on Al Jazeera and humiliate them quite easily.

[FubarFly]

45. Unless the boys were already dead.

and it was the killing that was staged.

[Scurrilous]

49. Maybe that's the idea.

Think about it. The US has searched and searched for Saddam and his sons and come up with nothing. No Saddam, no Odai, no Qusai. Noone at all.. dead or alive. No clue whatsoever to their whereabouts and no tips coming in to help in the search. They have hit a brick wall.

So they fake Odai's and Qusai's death. Unable to resist the urge to prove the US wrong, Odai and Qusai pop up out of hiding and go on Al Jazeera (or make a videotape a la bin Laden) to disprove their deaths. This would provide a chance....however implausibly slim...for the US to get a fix on their whereabouts and reinvigorate the search. This whole thing could be nothing more than Saddam bait.

Anyway, just a theory. :)

[Desertrose]

52. But they told us about the uranium sales tooo

and that came back to bite em in the ass...
prob'ly why they had to come up with this mess...

No way do I think its the Hussein sons....I have a feeling the whole family worked out a deal before the war started that included Saddam & sons....

and remember this regime has a way of wiggling out of the truth and then setting up some very interesting distractions....besides they could say they had the wrong DNA/dental records///blame it on thier info....

BTW I think it is inexcusable to show these photos to the public. ...and gee more us soldiers die today....
I'll tell ya Bush's big mistake (OK one of them ..)
that is that saddam's regime is gone & is never coming back....hooo hoo Georgie boy...(another) dumb move on your part....those words have a bite in them...

every morning I wake up into this crazy world & wonder...when did it get this way?? How could we have missed so many signs of all this insanity????

Peace
DR

[whoYaCallinAlib]

46. What a shame we can't trust our government.

It's worse than pathetic that we can no longer believe what our government tells us.

[MISSDem]

51. Of course it's not them!

Why would they be together when they know that the whole world is looking for them. Also, with modern technology could they not doctor these pictures and make it look like them? I just don't believe it. I mean, how convenient.

[symbolman]

53. Two Words:

Freezer Burn

[hang a left]

54. It just doesn't make any sense

If I had a kazillion bucks, I would have had my looks changed, would not be hanging with my bro, and Iraq is the last freakin place I would want to be chillin'.

Next thought, Wolfie goes to Bagdad, and all of the sudden they find out the whereabouts of Hussein family.

If I was a Hussein, I would have gotten out of there months ago. But that's just me.