I was a fan of Jeff Rense...until he posted this

[Andy_Stephenson]

What Heterosexuals Need To
Teach Homosexuals
By Paul M. Weyrich CNSNews.com
7-23-3


America has been deluged with so-called "reality" television series, but one premiered on the Bravo cable channel last week that shows just how far off-track our culture has gotten.

Given the title "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," this new television series maintains that heterosexuals have much to learn from homosexuals in matters of fashion and how to live their lives.

Bravo is airing what amounts to be a weekly advertisement for the homosexual movement and its agenda. It should come as no surprise that I do not feel compelled to take any fashion or lifestyle tips from the homosexual movement, and I say that as someone who was wearing pink shirts back in the 1960s before the color was seized by homosexual activists and politicized.

Nowadays, I still wear a pink shirt every now and then as a sign of rebellion against a movement that expects wearers of that color to be sympathetic to their agenda, which I most certainly am not.

The TV show has it absolutely backwards, unsurprising given that Hollywood producers these days are more interested in hewing to the homosexual movement's Politically Correct agenda rather than defending traditional values.

http://www.rense.com/general39/heter.htm

[Forkboy]

1. He posts anything from anywhere

He endorses nothing.There's lots to hate and lots to like :shrug:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. I've seen the sight before but why was rense running a Weyrich

article. Weyrich is the bible publisher? I saw his editorial and the letter responding but was that linked from the front page? Weyrich is a big time righty. He goes WAY back.

In the late 1970s a group of conservative strategists who had been active in the failed 1964 Barry Goldwater presidential campaign began to formulate a “family values” agenda that held enormous appeal for traditionalist conservatives of the Republican Party and the burgeoning Christian evangelical population. The coalition really jelled in 1979, when Robert Billings of the National Christian Action Council invited rising televangelist Jerry Falwell to meet conservative organizers Paul Weyrich, Howard Phillips, Richard Viguerie, and Ed McAteer. They wanted to use abortion as a wedge issue to split social conservative traditionalists away from the Democratic Party. Falwell took their idea of a "Moral Majority," and turned into an organization. This emerging movement became known as the "New Right" and it built a conservative voting base, provided foot soldiers for what became known as the Culture War, and captured the Republican Party.

After the collapse of communism in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe during Ronald Reagan’s second Administration, militant anticommunists focused on opposing big government, bureaucratic regulations, liberal collectivism, and godless secular humanism here at home. This allowed the fusionist coalition to continue into the new millennium. The electoral political Right still seeks coalition among its different sectors, but tolerates substantial disagreement over specific policy questions. For instance libertarians often support abortion, gay, and immigrant rights and defend civil liberties, in opposition to many business conservatives and Christian Right traditionalists. But libertarians will join with these other right-wing sectors to support tax cuts and harsh punitive sentencing of criminals.

http://www.publiceye.org/frontpage/overview.html

[baffie]

3. Unfortunately, some straight men do have something to learn

from gay men - gay men seem to be unafraid of their so-called "feminine" sides, as it is unfortunately called, which is merely the nurturing side, the warm side. So many women I know have fallen for gay men, sometimes not knowing, sometimes they can't help it anyway, because they have found in them a man who treats them and connects with them in the way they are looking for.

Also, gay men do tend to care more about how they look - I wish more straight men did. I know straight men who would never dream of going out with a woman who looks as skanky as they themselves look. I'm not asking men to dress to the nines, but I respect a guy who makes a bit of effort to look decent.

[sandnsea]

4. The agenda thingie again...

Nobody has told me what it is yet. I keep asking and asking, do you want me to be a dummy forever guys!?! :crazy:

[the_sam]

5. He always struck me...

As probably a paleoconservative militia type.

[w4rma]

7. Yup, Rense is, basically, a pre-1960s Democrat

Paleoconservative is a good term to use for him.

[Rich Hunt]

12. He IS

He's an anti-Semite of the ZOG-monging variety.

Stay far away from Rense, or it will come back to bite you. People will use it to discredit you.

Here - just look at the crap he puts on his site:

http://www.rense.com/Datapages/zionismdata.htm

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

22. It does concern me when the left cozies up to bigots simply for the

fact that they agree about a thing or two.

[the_sam]

6. I Don't Like "Queer Eye"

It's perpetuating stereotypes about homosexuals.

[Merlin]

8. He's right. The shows promos bite. It validates the right's arguments.

I won't watch the show. I'm no homophobe, but neither am I homosexual. The whole idea of the show does nothing but adds to the right's ammunition about a homosexual "agenda" that is to be feared and fought against.

What were these fucking morons thinking when they put this on the air? Are they oblivious to the times we live in?

This show will induce more gay baiting, homosexual hatred and stereotyping than anything the fundies could have done.

[Phoenixtongueof fire]

9. FWIW............

I'm gay and I liked the show. I thought it was campy. It was a cross between a talk-show make over and Trading Spaces. Their first make-over in the "before" mode looked like a hog farmer. His "After" mode was as a sexy hottie. And I don't have a pink shirt anywhere in my closet. Since when has "Pink" been "Gay"?
As for "stereotyping", what most straights know about Gays you could stick in a thimble and have room left over.

[lazarus]

10. most gays I've spoken to

Love the show. Something most people don't get when they don't watch the show is that each of the Fab Five is a completely different person. How that enforces a stereotype is beyond me. Wow, gays are individuals, too! How scary!

[sham]

16. I tend to agree...

On the episode I saw, there seemed to be five individuals, each of them interacting with the "straight guy" (I think it was the pig-farmer-turned-hottie) in a different way, and the straight guy looked perfectly at ease with the whole thing. THAT was what I liked the most. Here's a straight guy being made over by 5 gay men, and he's not being brainwashed, or molested, or anything else that the right would have you believe. They're all acting perfectly normal. I mean, how shocking! Straight people can hang out, interact, be friends, whatever, with GAYS and nothing bad will happen to them! Amazing! I don't see how putting that out there into the world is negative.

[HFishbine]

18. Sham

Right on. That's the way I saw it too.

[MaynardIsGod]

11. Let them scream

let them rage...
let them preach...
let them thump...
let them hate...
let them stereotype...
let them bait...

In the end all of their hatred, and all of their hypocrisy, will be the load that breaks their backs. Their indignation will be the noose with which they hang themselves.

[Orangepeel]

14. The only "agenda" the guys on the show have

is to make someone's life better. :shrug:

[StandWatie]

15. I think it's marketed towards women and gay men anyway

I don't think it's actually aimed at strait men at all..

[jonnyblitz]

13. I am a homo who needs decorating and fashion tips myself

I dont have a clue about fashion or interior design and show tunes make me fucking puke!!! Bring on OZZFEST and monster trucks!! *fart*

[HFishbine]

17. Radical

"I still wear a pink shirt every now and then as a sign of rebellion..."

Goog God! What a radical! Does Ashcroft know about this guy? How much longer before he escalates to fuchsia or mauve?

[skypilot]

21. I've never seen the show...

...but I've heard what it is about. Quite frankly, I think there should also be an equivalent show where gay men get makeovers from straight guys. I am a gay man and I honestly think that too many gay men are just too "done". From the perfect hair to the stylish clothes to the gym bodies, it is a bit much. You can practically see the time they've spent in front of the mirror. There are straight men, who aren't necessarily slobs or without fashion sense, who simply have a more natural, unselfconscious brand of good looks that I think gay men could learn something from. I see gay men who would be just as, if not more, attractive if they'd forego the mousse and Prada and simply slip into some jeans and an old teeshirt. There are men (straight and gay) who are just naturally attractive and shouldn't work so hard at it; kind of like an attractive woman who wears lots of makeup but doesn't really need it.

[MrPrax]

19. Rense is Not the Only One Complaining...a Better Slant

Rense args for not liking the show are homophobic
Here is a much more thoughtful piece...
<snip>
....Never mind that this renovation makes everyone look like a resident of West Hollywood. The agenda is about tempting guys who have managed to get by without facials and instant tans to become consumers of same. (There are more product placements in this show than on the Home Shopping Network).
<snip>
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0330/goldstein.php


Four More Reichs!!!!

[Merlin]

20. You guys don't get it.

This show's title and its promos present it as a determined effort by the gay population to extend its sexual proclivities to the straight population. That is anathema to middle America.

I really don't give a good godam how many of you are gay. About one third of my friends are gay. I live in a very gay community. That's not what this is about.

The fact is that we are in a cultural war. Middle America is very sensitive to a "gay agenda". The whole ongoing flap about priest molestations has aggravated the sensibilities of the straights.

This kind of blatant, ridiculous accentuation of gay stereotypes with its aggressive, ubber title will only damage the progress that has been made over the years toward acceptance of gays as regular people who just want to live their lives like all the rest of us and be treated as regular people.

[Ellen Forradalom]

23. Methinks he doth protest too much

Boy, does Weyrich have ISSUES! Why does he care so much? Everyone who's watched it tells me that the show is lighthearted fun! Don't like it? Don't watch it!

Get thee to a therapist, Paul. And come out--you'll feel much better.