how to GUARANTEE a dem landslide in 2004-inside!

[texas is the reason]

so i was reading buzzflash this afternoon, and came across this story about the possible reinstatement of the draft- <http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/03/11/far03001.html>
suddenly, a devious wave of Rovian inspiration washed over my body, and an evil, chimpy-like smirk distorted my face- folks, THIS IS OUR ANSWER TO ALL OF ROVES' DIRTIEST TRICKS!! as buzzflash states, there is no way bushie would bring this up in an election year... that is why WE HAVE TO!!! paint Bush as the man who will reinstate the draft, and that's it. GAME OVER!! dem candidate wins BIG. there is already enough evidence that points to a draft being a necessity to maintain our present imperialist course (esp. considering that 1/2 in the military say they will not reinlist). There is also enough chatter of this by bush contemporaries on the right that even the inevetible denial by bushie will not quell the issue. if we can convince the average person that there is even a POSSIBILITY that they or thier loved ones may be going to iraq if they vote for bush, WE WILL DESTROY HIM!!! Muuhaa..<evil smirk> MUHAAAHAAHAA!! So remember, folks, from now until election time, BUSH=DRAFT...

[amlouden]

1. i've heard

that if a draft did come into effect, it wouldn't be untill at least 2005

[AP]

18. The whole point of registration is so that it wouldn't take 2 years...

...to get it running.

That being said, there will be no draft under a Republican administration. See my post below.

[La_Serpiente]

2. Little bit of schadenfreude I see

:bounce: :freak: :hi:

[DrFunkenstein]

3. This Reinforces That Dems Wish For Tragedies

IMO

[Walt Starr]

7. Oh good grief!

:eyes:

The draft is a REAL issue. The draft WILL HAVE TO BE REINSTATED because chimpboy screwed the pooch.

He fucked up.

And the draft reinstatement is the number one issue going for the Dems.

The "ME ME ME" generation is terrified of the prospect for a draft.

[Upfront]

13. I Truly Beleive

if Bush* is elected the draft will be back, and that is the massage to put out. It is the truth, as they have no where else to turn.

[texas is the reason]

16. exactly!...

i am 23 and am surrounded by pro-bush, pro-war republicans at my college, but i can guarantee you my school would look like berkley in 1969 if these people thought for a second that they would have to put down thier beers and pick up a rifle and start packing for sunny Iraq, "the jewel of middle east asia", to meet interesting people, and kill them.(thank you prvt. Joker!)

[AP]

20. If the economy goes down the shitter, we won't need a draft.

If your choice is to die hungry on the streets, or join the army and take your chances, I think many Americans would chose the army.

[Nederland]

4. Won't Work

Unfortunately, the only people that have ever tried to reinstate the draft are Democrats. You can claim that the Bush administration has plans to reinstate the draft, but what are you going to do to prove that? There is absolutely no evidence that anyone in the Bush adminstration, the Pentagon, or anyone else wants a draft. As a campaign tactic, this is a non-starter.

[trotsky]

5. Precisely.

They'll just deny it, and succeed in getting votes by claiming the Democrats are "scare-mongering". Then, when * has enough votes to finally be elected president, they'll reinstate the draft for his lameduck term.

[texas is the reason]

6. i think we have a pretty good defense to charges of "scare- mongering"...

like every single day since 9/11/01- or as darryl worley would sing- "have you forgotten" LOL!!

[RC]

9. Then why

are they populating the draft boards?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. Exactly.

This tactic cuts two ways. Either it helps elect a Dem or it helps prevent a draft from being instated. Win-win.

[RandomKoolzip]

8. If I was in my late teens right now and the media hinted at the POSSIBLITY

of the draft being reinstated, I would immediately pack my bags and move to Iceland. I know I'm not alone here, either....

BTW, I like your name...TITR were a great band in their day, and that Misfits song is even better!

[texas is the reason]

11. YES!! someone who doesn't just think "he must be from texas.."

cheers!!:toast:

[ShimokitaJer]

12. It's been more than hinted at

The Pentagon is moving to fill posts on the draft board that have been long vacant.

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/03/draft/

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[belle]

10. I think the simplest method is best, myself:

Tell the truth. Not "speak truth to power;" "speak truth, period." Often and loudly. In plain language. Backed up by facts. As per recent examples by Gore, Clark, Dean, Al Franken, Molly Ivins, Paul Krugman, and other fine speakers and writers. Shout it, whisper it, stick it on your car, spray it on the sidewalk, write it on the bathroom walls, get it in the papers and on the TV and radio any way you can. Tell your neighbors, tell your friends, tell your enemies, tell the whole damn world.

THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. BUT HE'S STILL KILLING US. He needs to GO.

Repeat as necessary.

[Lars39]

14. And what magic wand are you going to wave to ward off death?

Doesn't even sound good in theory.

[texas is the reason]

19. que?

[Lars39]

25. There are consequences to starting the draft. People get killed.

Most people that propose the return of the draft either aren't draftable or act like they know anyone that would get drafted. Which one of your loved ones have you chosen to be drafted and possibly killed by this administration? Choose carefully.

[texas is the reason]

30. maybe you should read my post again bro.....

you might be wondering why you are in the minority against a pro-draft bush loving freeper like myself....

[Noordam]

15. Sounds like a debate question with the words

READ MY LIPS I will not allow a draft to start

[AP]

17. Don't get your hopes up on this issue. Republicans will NEVER reinstate...

...draft.

Their plan is to create a huge underclass with no choice other than to join the army. They think of the draft as the reason Vietnam didn't work out. Too many kids with middle class parents who knew how to work the system got drafted. It's easier to have unpopular foreign policy when the Americans it most directly impacts upon (negatively, with death) are poor and probably not white.

What Repulbicans MIGHT do, however, is pretend the draft is coming back during the Democratic primaries so that a lot of college students vote for the anti-war candidate, and, when we nominate our McGovern, they'll say there won't be any draft. It will remove the urgency to vote for the anti-war candidate, and the anti-war candidate will have little else to define himself.

That's how Nixon won in '72.

[Donna Zen]

21. Brilliant post!

I had wondered about all this draft business. And you are on to something, they are creating the preception of a draft. BTW, my take is that many more of my seniors are signing up this year than before. I don't think recruitment is a problem, retention is the rub.

[AP]

23. Are your middle class white seniors signing up,

or is it the children of the working class and the poor who are signing up?

Something like 400,000-1 million HS seniors and college students have dropped out of higher education in the last three years. They need to find something, and it's not like there are tons of jobs sewing soccer balls for Europeans here in the US (yet). The military is the only option for many people at the bottom margin of society.

And, yes, the draft fears are designed to help Republicans long term. They know what they're doing. They did this in '72 to win an election for the one of the least electable, most criminal, and most war mongering Republican presidents ever.

[texas is the reason]

27. i'm not saying that we should make an issue of it in the primaries...

but whoever wins (and truly, may the best man win!)has to bring this up in the general election. but you are right, it would be very foolish of us to do something reactionary and elect an unelectable, far-left liberal from up north solely because he was against iraq and would be against a draft..........but don't worry- i'm talking about kucinich! I doubt mcgovern was a fiscal conservative supported by the NRA who supported two of the three last wars...

[AP]

29. Hello. The Republicans aren't going to let this be an issue in the GE.

They'll drop hints during primary season and then they'll totally dispell any rumors after the nominating convention. They would only drop hints to get an anti-war dem nominated.

The Republicans have been against the draft since Vietnam. A draft gives average, middle class Americans a stake in foreign policy which they can feel accutely. Republicans don't need that kind of cause-effect relationship between criminal imperialism and middle class consciousness.

However, when your army is made up of self-selected poor people, that's a different story.

[texas is the reason]

35. you may be right..

they may be smart enough to not actually do it (im still 50/50 on this), but either way-we should paint that picture. has anything the right has said about us in the past 10 years been entirely based in fact? its time to play hardball.

[texas is the reason]

22. don't worry..

we are already going to elect the "anti-war candidate" (whoever that may be..;-) , but he's no mcgovern!!

[AP]

24. I wish I could believe that, but I'd have to remove my frontal lobe for

that to strike me as the truth.

[bowens43]

28. some problems with this

1. I haven't heard a single republican speak in favor of the draft (you say there's chatter? I haven't heard it. Do you have a cite?). In fact they seem to be very opposed to a draft.

2. There is no evidence that the bushies intend to reinstate the draft.

3. The only politicians calling for a draft are democrats.

[texas is the reason]

32. well....

1.there is a post above that links to an article that shows that the DOD has restaffed long vacant draft related positions, and my link refers to an actual draft bill proposed by two repub representatives..
2.see above- but i would bet some of his PNAC'ers have said things too.
3. i have not heard of this, but if it's true, they should be excommunicated from the democratic party immediately.

[TNOE]

33. Yep - Your #3 is the WORST part about this

I would not put it past Bushy to do anything - to flat out lie during the election and say THERE WILL ABSOLUELY BE NO DRAFT - until of course after the election - but the truth of the matter is - we are out of troops - and their global conquest has just begun. Republicans may not ever want the draft - but Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Pearle - are horses of another color entirely. They are PNAC way more than they are republicans.

[proud patriot]

31. I'm putting that on my car

bush 04 = THE DRAFT

[texas is the reason]

34. YES!!

if you make up some bumper stickers, be sure to send me one!