I am appalled. I am speechless. Our new Governor has gone too far.

[Cleita]

Arnold the Groper Schwarzenegger has hired a P.I. firm to investigate the pasts of the women who are filing sexual battery charges against him in court. If anyone wants to know why women don't come forward when they are harrassed, groped or raped, this is why. There is no link yet as it was just announced on CNN as "just in".

He can't get away with this. Every woman who has had to endure these incidents because of a job, a grade in school or even to save her life can't let this poor excuse for a man to get away with this. Write your Senators, Representatives and anyone in your political sphere to record your disgust.

If I weren't restricted by the new rules this post would have been much more pithy. I am so mad I am shaking. Please say what I can't say. :grr: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[DK666]

1. Hes

Is such a sleazeball and Maria is right there with him. He came to my hometown and blew sugar up everyones ass after the fire. He makes me sick.

[henslee]

16. He is in for a shit storm IMHO.

These are the kinds of cases that make careers. Previously uknown D.A's and attorneys can become famous. Arnie and his orange hair better watch out.

[Blitz]

30. Not a single DA will file charges

unless a new, much more recent accusation surfaces. The statute of lmitations has run out on all of the allegations that have surfaced to date, both for the purposes of criminal prosecution and, for the most part, civil relief. Unless something else is out there, Schwarzenegger will never see the inside of a courtroom in relation to these allegations (unless he decides to file a libel suit, which is unlikely).

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. It is unlikely he would do so since the truth is always a defense

in which case it really doesn't matter how long ago the incidents were. It is, however, a matter the state CAN investigate and depending on the behavior of his "so-called" respected investigation firm, there are matter concerning obstruction of justice on which he might be treading including intimidation of witnesses.

Ah to ever see you defend a Democrat in quite the same way you seem to defend Republicans.

[Blitz]

41. NSMA

I'm stating legal facts and realities about a subject that I am familiar with. I don't defend the behavior, if true. I said that a libel suit is unlikely for two reasons. First, as you said, truth is a defense and A.S. would have little to gain from giving his accusers a public forum to which they would otherwise have no access and, second, A.S. has zero financial motivation for a lawsuit (the usual reason for going to court).

As for investigating the investigators, that's putting the cart before the horse since there isn't even a suggestion that they have done anything wrong and, as someone who has, on occasion, had reason to use investigators, I very much doubt that a good firm will put themselves or their client in anything approaching a compromising position. There won't be any intimidation or obstruction. Most likely, the investigation will include a great deal of tedious paperwork and public records reviews and very little, if any, direct contact with any of the accusers.

As for me defending Democrats, I do that all the time. It just so happens that you don't like any of them. On the bright side, we do have our common ground. Neither of us likes Pat Buchanon. Ah, the memories of your warm post supporting me in my attacks against him still bring a smile to my face . . .

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

54. Dear Blitz...it is my business too and PI's are frequently used for

intimidation purposes. Whether it results in any ACTUAL obstruction or intimidation remians to be seen but CAN be actionable as you WELL know given it is your business. As far as "good firms" not risking their reputation, remember the OJ case?

As far as Pat Buchanan is concerned, I am pleased we both agree on an anti-semitic bigot.

Insofar as us disagreeing on which Dems you support and agree with...who are we talking about? Zell Miller?

[Blitz]

58. Nah, not Zell

I mean, just yesterday we were parting ways on Gavin Newsom. You're not a fan of Joseph Lieberman (D-CT). If I recall, you don't have a warm place in your heart for Denise Majette (D-GA). I'm not sure, but I think that you may not be overly fond of Tom Lantos (D-CA) (correct me if I'm wrong on that one). I could probably name a few more if I gave it some thought and went back to my bookmarks. Frankly, I don't remember if we ever discussed Zell Miller.

And you're right. Obviously, if a person or company does something wrong, their wrongdoing may be actionable in civil or criminal court. That goes for investigators as well as dentists and plumbers and virtually everybody else. Being a private investigator and doing the work of a P.I. is not bad or criminal or actionable per se. Moreover, we usually wait for some actual wrongdoing before taking out the nooses. Thus far, there isn't any that we know of (if the investigations have even started).

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

71. Honey I think you have me confused with someone else

I didn't post about Gavin Newsom yesterday and have not been following the race. I have NO opinion about Majette but do not see Cynthia McKinney as the anti-semitic demon that some view her to be simply because her FATHER said something objectionable. I don't have major issues with Tom Lantos.

We HAVE locked horns before, don't get me wrong...just not on those issues. I really hope there isn't an imposter going around and impersonating me. :D

BTW, you can confirm this through your bookmarks perhaps. My only issues with Joe Lieberman were sidelining the Enron scandal (and of course his vote on PSLRA which overrode Clinton's veto and made this mess possible) and his little rose garden photo op that completely undermined not ONLY his party leadership (whom he voted for) but also the bipartisan Biden-Lugar amendment.

[Blitz]

91. Well, then, peace and my apologies

I did confuse you with somebody (I know who, now that I think about it, but there's no point in dragging someone into this discussion (and it's against the rules)). Anyway, sorry about that.

Nevertheless, there are a few democrats that I have defended against some of the more outrageous charges against them. I'm an equal opportunity attacker/defender. I don't particularly care about the letter after their name. I've attacked Byrd for being a homophobe and a religious bigot. I've attacked Sharpton for his demagoguery and his race-baiting. I've attacked Buchanon and Baraka and McKinney (most notably for her letter to the Saudi Prince) and defended O'Reilly against the factually unjustified attacks against him (I have no problem with justified attacks but just because someone has certain faults does not give their critic carte blanche to assign any other faults that they can think of to them). I've attacked both Michael Savage (blech!!) and, less strenuously, Bernie Ward. I've gone after Lyndon LaRouche.

So, when it comes to attacking people or defending them, I look at their actions and ideas. I don't care too much about how they label themselves. Hell, Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat. That doesn't win that particular waste of skin and organs any points in my book.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

92. Thanks. Just to clear up the Phelps thing, here's a semi biographical

account of Phelps' transition from civil rights lawyer to hateful homophobe ass.
http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/00/01/machine-ladd.php

[MnFats]

2. how soon after one recall is complete can Cali. start...

....petition drives for another one?
....not trying to gum up the machinery of government or anything.
....i do wonder, however, what the outcome would have been if the sexual assault issues had another two weeks to percolate.

[goobergunch]

11. 6 months...

before the :nuke:.

IMHO this is an impeachable offense however...let the legislature drop the :nuke:s for us.

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[charlie]

13. 6 months n/t

[Ouabache]

3. Hell he is fighting the charges with MORE harrassment

He is stalking them with PIs? Now they can file charges over this invasion of their privacy. Talk about grounds for a recall.

[pmbryant]

4. This is absolutely atrocious

Please post a link when one becomes available.

:grr:

--Peter

[Cheswick2.0]

5. I am thinking Maria is an abused wife

her husband certainly fits the profile of an abuser. What a POS

[Cleita]

6. Thanks for saying what I couldn't say.

The man is a huge steaming pile of shit.

[DK666]

7. Really ?

You think thats the case ? Please explain.

[SharonAnn]

12. Actually, she fits the profile of one

Her husband controls just about everything.

He tells her when she gains weight that she's "too fat".

[DK666]

15. I was

Thinking Maria needed a sandwich

[caledesi]

18. Ches...I was just thinking the same thing. This is sad. nt

[UserJohnny1479]

74. Exactly

We need to email Teddy and get him to pressure Marie to dump him!

It would end his career as gropinator of CA. I'm sending email now...

[9215]

89. She's a trophy

She looks sickly, anorexic to me. What I can't figure out is why she stays with him. But then I didn't know why Crystal Brame, the wife of Tacoma Chief of Police, stayed with him until he murdered her. Then we found out.

The sick son-of-blank abused her for years. Here he was the Chief of Police and knew every move she made, dictated when she could go out, etc. She tried to get help, but the bastard was too influential and all seeing, and intervened. She called help-lines only to have the police show up and then quietly withdraw. She was a virtual prisoner and knew how dangerous he was.

I'm not saying Gropeygov is the same as Brame, but these kinds of situations if not confronted tend to go from bad to worse.

[MoonAndSun]

8. This is probably because the AG of California told Arnie

that the "allegations of groping" are not going away. I'll try and find the link to that thread.



edited for link <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=204036>




So Arnie has been warned by Lockyer-D (who voted for the Gropenator) so now Arnie is starting his campaign of intimidation of those women.

He is slime and I just can not understand why so many women voted for him.

[nbsmom]

88. He went on Oprah, remember?

:eyes:

[jonoboy]

9. this man's actions are as low as it can get

[salin]

10. governor mysoginator... "as ugly as I wanna be".

eom

[absyntheNsugar]

14. Dammit...BLARGH!...Frick...BRGGGG!

So P.O.'d I can't even chew gum at the same time!

[DK666]

17. I really think

He was elected soley on star power and nothing substantive.

[Skittles]

19. gee DK666, ya THINK ????

:7

[DK666]

20. Yea

I had that one coming..... :+

[liberalhistorian]

32. No kidding!

Whatever makes you think that, lol!

[ForestsBeatBushes]

43. I'm beginning to wonder if he was elected at all.

Check out LBN for CA Secy of State's interesting info on Diebold - yes, that Diebold of Flori-duh fame - was used and how it affected liberal, diverse Alameda County's votes.

It's getting uglier...

[economic justice]

70. Gray Davis?

Gray Davis would just go along with that? All Democrats in politics and justice would just disappear? BBV is a distracting load of crap. To say otherwise is a slap in the face at all Democrats who (we are led to believe) would just roll over when confronted with the truth. I have looked at it long and hard and have concluded some are trying to make careers out of BBV, but that's all. Democrats truly affected by this would be having a fit, and frankly, they laugh. Let's figure out why we keep losing and quit blaming a company that (again, we are being asked to believe) has all of these people subverting democracy and don't care and are keeping quiet. It's a bunch of crap and we need to discuss the REAL issues and NOT distractions by loony conspiracy theories that simply don't make a bit of sense.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

76. Let's not bring Davis into this, okay?

If you will kindly check LBN, you will find at least 3 threads referencing the fact that the CA Secy of State has NOW discovered that Diebold was indeed (mis)used in at least the liberal and diverse Alameda County. Hardly a distraction...

[dmr]

79. That's right - let's discuss the REAL issues

and not distractions by those who would rather allow private entities own our votes after it is cast without having any means to verify the machine's accuracy, or recount the vote when necessary.

This is a non-partisan issue. It affects each and every one of us who vote in the country. You may want to vote blindly, I do not.

[maggrwaggr]

84. yeah, anybody "find" those 900,000 missing votes yet?

just wondering.

[Cleita]

87. Here's a link to the Secretary of State's website.

http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/status.htm

I find it strange that not all the votes are counted yet and some in highly populated precincts like Alameda and Los Angles that usually cast a liberal vote.

[HalJessopJr]

21. He can get PIs to investigate women...

... but we cant get an independant counsel to investigate BushCo, Uranium Gate, and leak gate.

[MadMan]

22. Another chance for the repricks to revel in their hypocrisy.

They hate this kind of stuff... like when Bill *supposedly* tried to defame Paula Jones (maybe he really did - I don't remember it though).

Watch and listen for the complete and utter silence. Keep faking the outrage repricks. Fools can't even be honest with themselves.

Just what does constitute an outrage for a reprick? Well, I guess that depends on the year.

[liberalhistorian]

33. Repricks!

LOL, I love that!

[Spirochete]

62. Me too

I think I'll use that one from now on. Has a nice bellicose ring to it. }(

[mvd]

23. Horrible

Arnold fits right in with the mentality of Bush's America. I once thought that Maria and his Kennedy connection would reign him in, but surprisingly Maria has put up with him..

[Cleita]

24. I don't find the Kennedy's treatment of women much better.

[Lindacooks]

40. What?????????????

Senator Kennedy did NOT go around grabbing women's private parts and making suggestive comments. If you have 'proof' of something like that, you'd better damn well post a link.

[Cleita]

42. Well, there was the rape thing with the nephew in

Palm Beach, but I was really referring to the fact that they don't have any problem relegating the women they married to "arm ornament" status, which is what Maria most likely is to Arnold.

[Blitz]

45. I think the misunderstanding is caused

by the placement of the apostraphe. I believe she meant "Kennedys'" as in the family and not "Kennedy's" as in a particular member of it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Cleita]

46. You're right.

I meant the Kennedy men as a family.

[Sequoia]

50. Well, certainly Joe Kennedy

and he was a total slim bag who probably laughed about it around his young sons as they were growing up. Arnie only picked Maria because of her family, not really because he was "in love".

[mvd]

64. Maria's parents aren't that way

Plus, the vast majority of the younger Kennedy generation has been good. But it's about more than that: I would have been mad that Arnold became the nominee in the sleazy recall.

[Cleita]

67. I don't know how true this is but

it doesn't make Maria look very good if it is. From an article in the Moderate Indepedent by Jackson Thoreau.

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i9guestwriter.htm

"Still, Robot Man soon dropped out of the California governor’s race after that report, which was not exactly over-covered by the mainstream media . To keep Shriver from leaving, Schwarzenegger reportedly gave her a Mercedes SUV, a convertible Lexus, a diamond bracelet and spa treatments worth tens of thousands of dollars. Of course, Kennedy women are used to such treatment and bribes to stay married; Leigh says that Jackie Kennedy accepted a whopping $1 million from Joe Kennedy to stay with JFK after she tired of his extramarital affairs. For the record, I didn’t like the Kennedys doing that kind of crap and covering up their affairs with bribes – that at least borders on criminal behavior. But not even JFK was brazen enough to hold another woman’s butt in front of his wife, as Schwarzenegger has done on camera."

[catzies]

25. Wonder who pays for it?

Now that's he's elected, will this be paid for with my California tax dollars??? :mad: (Didn't vote for him and almost broke up with my boyfriend who did)

[ComerPerro]

26. I was wondering the same thing

It will be interesting to see

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

28. Hell I almost broke up with DU over it.

Specifically the stupid fuck who repeatedly claimed there was no difference between Schwarzenegger and Davis.

[MoonAndSun]

29. Kinda reminds me of the ones who said there was no difference

between bush* and Gore. What kind of fools do we have in this country that can not see the difference between Davis and the Gropinator?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

37. We have fools like that on DU...I am forbidden from naming the vapid

asswipe who said it. She knows who she is...

[Shakespeare]

27. Do you have a link for this?

Not saying I don't believe you--I'd just like to see the actual news report. Thanks.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

31. here's the paragraph from the LBN story

"In regard to a review of allegations that surfaced late in the campaign, the governor-elect had already decided to engage a well respected investigative firm to look into the allegations," Stutzman said. "He had intended to instruct the investigators to turn over the final results of that investigation to the attorney general; he will now reconsider that option."

[Shakespeare]

34. Ah, excellent.

Thanks. :-)

[Cleita]

36. I also just wrote the LA Times

and asked them if there was going to be a story about this as I couldn't find anything further. It was just one line that Wolf Blitzer said at the end of his program on CNN. I don't want it to be buried.

[Karenina]

52. Did ANYONE expect anything different

from this nazi-schwein? His reputation for assault is well known, the incidents are legion, he publicly calls himself the "titty twister" and we even have film at 11. No problem... just hire some high-priced dicks to smear all the women as sluts. He's got the money.

[liberalmuse]

38. It's time for another recall!

The Repubs would love to resurrect the ghosts of J.Edgar Hoover and McCarthy, wouldn't they? This is sick and wrong. These women have already been through enough. I hope they all band together and sue the hell out of him.

[Cleita]

39. I hope this story comes out in print so

we can rally women to protest him no matter where he goes.

[David Zephyr]

44. Cleita. He Has Gone Too Far.

Please provide any links to this story so I can radio-broadcast this via e-mail to my friends around the state.

You wrote, "He can't get away wiht this." We can not let him get away with this.

[Cleita]

48. I will as soon as I can find something.

I have a feeling not much more is going to be said about this, but I hope the LA Times picks up on it and writes a story.

[xchrom]

47. recall -- recall -- recall

[ForestsBeatBushes]

49. I should have responded to Original Message rather

than to a specific post.

Please see #43 above. Thanks.

[Cleita]

55. You are so right.

If they skewed the results, they were really slick about it this time, but some things don't make sense. How, all of a sudden did some liberal strongholds go red? If voters elected Governor Davis twice why not this time? The recall was not started by the people who voted for Davis but those who didn't, so it was obvious they were trying to overturn an election that didn't work out for them. Why did only 50% of registered Democrats and 64% of the Republicans? Doesn't make sense does it.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

68. I bet it makes sense to Rep. Katharine Harris of Floriduh

:eyes: :puke:

[fishnfla]

51. Is there a link that says the PI is going to investigate the womens pasts?

The yahoo link says he hired a PI to look into the allegations.

I dont like the guy at all, but it stated the PI was going to look into their allegations.

What are the alternatives? A public AG investigation? A media investigation? A criminal investigation? Is that what these women want?

Maybe its time for the accusers to get legal help? Who pays for that?

ON edit: have these women filed claims against him in court? do you have a link for that?

I'm sorry to ask these questions, I'm just trying to get the facts.

[Cleita]

56. Don't you understand doublespeak?

Looking into the allegations means looking into the women's pasts. This is how they discredit women. If they can prove a woman had a sexual past then Ahnold can claim she's only a whore who is not to be believed. He can also claim she came on to him. It's a very old game and I can't believe it's being done in this day and age. And I believe I heard wolfie specifically say the firm would be investigating his accusers pasts.

[fishnfla]

57. I understand, yes

Now can you tell me where these women are filing court charges, as you stated in your original post? I dont see any proof of that.

I understand your outrage, but please be factual.

[Cleita]

63. Look at post 60.

Gloria Allred is representing one of the victims.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-women07oct07,1,325428.story

You have to do a one time registration but it's free.

[Gloria]

65. So he groped in the past....now he's moving on to using a tactic

that is used against rape victims!!

So Arnold may now be considered a rapist in my book...he's going to rape the state and psychologically rape these women...

I hate this SOB

[SammyWinstonJack]

53. These women should hire a P.I. firm to investigate Ah nold's past behavior

towards them. What I want to know is why he refused to respond to the allegations of his accusers after the election like he said he would, instead giving the lame excuse that is was "old news" yet now has hired a P.I. firm to investigate these women? Nazi admiring serial groping POS! Is that what you wanted to say?

[9215]

59. Do you have link for this

I want to open a file on this.

[Cleita]

61. I'm hoping CNN expands on this, but it may take a day or two.

[9215]

81. I haven't had the chance yet to look at this but

There is something fishy about an elected official hiring a PI to look into the private lives of people period. Whatever these PI's do should be public knowledge. Gropenator is no longer a private citizen so what instructions, etc, he gave these PI's is most likely in the category of public knowledge--open to for all to see.

The important thing, IMO is that what these PI's do be made public.

Just some thoughts.

I share your anger on the shit women take for coming forward with stuff like this. In Tacoma Wa this demented Chief of Police murdered his wife after putting her through living hell for years.

Point being that people with alot of power need to be exposed as Gropenator was and the whistleblower NEEDS to be protected. Groper never denied these accusations and even admitted to "behaving badly", but he has never personally apologized to my knowledge.


On edit: We may find out that this Swartzy is a real "predator" of the sexual variety. His actions are not one of a humble guy sorry for what he did, he is on the offensive.

[Cleita]

82. He is without a doubt a sexual predator.

He has committed sexual battery and some of it is recent. This hiring of PI's is in part to intimidate any other women who might come forward who could make charges stick.

[9215]

83. He has been "accused" of committing sexual battery.

I think, like you, he has done this, but I cannot say in fact he has.

There has to be a way of protecting women who may have been his victims then they would come forward. One way may be for these women's legal counsel to address the issue of the legality of Gropenator hiring PI's. I think that as a public citizen the governor cannot conduct private investigations of private citizens.

I'm by no means offering a legal opinion, I just think it is worth looking at.

Did you get my p-mail?

[Cleita]

85. Yes, I did answer you. Check your box.

This is something people like whom you mentioned are going to have to pursue. I can't do much more than voice my outrage and collect articles in my file and try to get those who can do something to do it.

[9215]

86. I never said welcome to DU

:toast:

I've gotten alot done using my computer. I sent Henry Waxman of CA info on Enron and gotten a warm reply, plus alot of other things.

Getting info to people is vitally important and starting a topic like this with 34,000 members at DU can have an effect. There are lots of people who could fight this thing in CA, but they haven't been informed. State Reps, dems of course, should alwasy be informed if they have shown an interest in such issues before.

I hope govgropenator is starting to feel the heat.

[Cleita]

60. Okay links so far.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031107/ap_on_re_us/schwarzenegger_women_3

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kpix/20031107/lo_kpix/8290

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031107/ts_alt_afp/us_politics_031107004245

Now please note that the Atty. General had advised Arnold that he was going to be investigated so that he should cooperate. So Arnold hired the PI firm to investigate the allegations. Now, I fell off the turnip truck a long time ago so I know these Dicks are going to try to find out about these women's pasts. Arnold already knows what he did and only investigating the women's allegations seems like a waste of money since the documents are already filed. Figure it out yourself and connect the dots.

[Cleita]

69. CNN story finally up.

They changed it from Arnold hires PI firm to investigate allegations and the women who made them, to Arnold won't give the Atty. General the results of the investigation. So here is the story CNN printed.

<snip>
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger will hire an investigative firm to look into allegations by several women that he groped them, but may refuse to allow California's attorney general to review it, a spokesman said Thursday.

The revelation came hours after the state attorney general's office addressed the complaints, saying any investigation of them "won't simply go away by continuing to ignore it."

Attorney General Bill Lockyer met with Schwarzenegger Wednesday and the two discussed several matters, including allegations that the actor and former bodybuilder groped several women and the possibility that independent investigations by local law enforcement agencies could "hound" the new governor, said Lockyer spokesman Nathan Barankin. <snip>

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/06/schwarzenegger/index.html

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

73. In essence since he admitted to "poor behavior" Arnold is investigating

himself...OR looking to smear those that came forward or HARASS them under the color of authority...

[Cleita]

77. No kidding NSMA.

This all stinks to high heaven.

[Military Brat]

66. Do you think Rove put Arnie up to this?

Seriously, didn't Arnie announce his nomination just as some major news was hitting the public that wasn't in bush's favor? Jeez, I can't even remember what it was, but it's classic Rovian technique to throw out poisoned bait. And right now, bush is in political hot water because of Iraq.

But, don't think I'm not sympathetic to these women. I hope they are as strong as Arnold is mean. Never liked him anyway. Neanderthal creep.

[UserJohnny1479]

72. What did you expect?

The bigger question is why did CA elect him?

[David Zephyr]

75. Sorry, But Attorney General Bill Lockyer is No Longer Trusted Here.

This was all arranged BEFORE the election. I am sure of it. It smells so bad that it is sickening.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

78. It certainly seems to have the

odor of Palm Beach in 2000, doesn't it?

[Tinoire]

80. Totally! Our Democratic DA voted for Arnold instead of investigating!

You caught that story right?

October 6, 2003
California Attorney General Bill Lockyer calls on Arnold Schwarzengger to volunteer to be investigated

Reporter asks about sexual assault allegations against Arnold Schwarzenegger

Lockyer: Well I think it raises serious questions of character and without knowing more detail about the specific incidents; I can’t say what it is other than there are so many of them, they’re disturbing, the volume is disturbing, and so it would be good to get the facts.
http://www.workersagainsttherecall.com/viewarticle.php?a=230

Monday, October 6, 2003

Attorney General Bill Lockyer, a Democrat who has called Schwarzenegger a good friend, also entered the fray, telling reporters at a Davis campaign stop in San Jose that the actor should volunteer to have the harassment claims investigated.

Lockyer said he had not seen anything to indicate that any incidents had occurred in the past year, an important point because the statute of limitations on sexual battery is one year.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/recall/story/7549174p-8490624c.html
--------------
"Jolting Democrat News: Bill Lockyer Voted for Schwarzenegger"

The Democrats may still be in shock from learning on Saturday that their state's attorney general, Bill Lockyer, bolted his party and voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor.

<snip>

Later, Lockyer said that the late-blooming allegations that Schwarzenegger had harassed women during his acting career did not alter his decision, characterizing the allegations as undoubtedly true--Schwarzenegger himself partially acknowledged that--and "frat boy behavior." "I gave him the benefit of the doubt," Lockyer told reporters.

Lockyer's statements are especially jarring to political insiders because he has raised millions of dollars in campaign funds and made little secret of his ambition to run for governor himself in 2006. And that leaves cognoscenti wondering whether Lockyer is being sincere, albeit unconventional, by supporting the new governor or has some sly political motive.

<snip>
http://chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=4780&catcode=33

[9215]

90. That son-of-a-you know is trying to use state power

to muzzle his victims IMO.

He needs his feet held to the fire on this.

Arianna Huffington would be real interested in this I'm sure.

[9215]

93. keep this kicked

:kick: