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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:45 AM
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Acceptance Ballot Voting: DU's Preferences for Prez
Edited on Wed Oct-29-03 02:20 AM by BurtWorm
This is something like the instant runoff voting thread. The idea of acceptance ballot voting is you can vote for more than one candidate if you wish, and only those candidates whom you would accept as a winner. The winner is the person who appears on most ballots.

Here's a Website with both kinds of ballots to test in a simulated Democratic primary:

http://bolson.org/2004/vote.html


But maybe we could try an experiment of our own here. If anyone wishes to calculate the winner via Condorcet counting, be my guest. Please don't list anyone you don't accept as winner:

Here's my list



Dean
Kerry
Kucinich
Clark


I'm restricting my own vote to four to make tabulation simpler, but you can vote for as many or as few as you'd like.


PS: Just to make it interesting, write in anyone you would accept, like, say, Ralph Nader or Al Gore.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 02:04 AM
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1. Excellent, thankds.
Kucinich
Dean
Mosley-Braun
Edwards
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 02:14 AM
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2. A number system is bad, because many people get mixed up and choose
the high number (or conversly the low number) as their best choice, even with the instructions right there next to the ballot.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 02:18 AM
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3. With acceptance balloting, there are no numbers
just names to put checks next to. You're basically voting for everyone you would accept in the office they want to fill. Of course everyone has a preference, but you can increase the chances of electing someone you would accept if you could vote for any or all of the above.
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 02:43 AM
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4. Maybe one day it'll really be like this
Kucinich
Dean
Kerry
Edwards
Al Gore
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 02:48 AM
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5. It would be nice if Democrats made it a goal.
They could become worthy of their name.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:11 AM
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6. kick
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:31 AM
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7. OK, Burt, here ye go
caveat: All is subject to change before election day. Of the eight, Nader is not declared. Three are Greens. One is Socialist. Four are Democrats.

Al Sharpton
Brian Czech
David Cobb
Dennis Kucinich
Carol Moseley Braun
Walt Brown
Ralph Nader
Howard Dean
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:40 PM
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8. My ballot...
Edited on Wed Oct-29-03 12:45 PM by Atlant
Unreserved acceptance (in alphabetical order):

  • Dean
  • Sharpton ----- Strange but true; I think he could succeed in the job

Unreserved acceptance, but not part of "The Nine":

  • Barbara Boxer
  • Mario Cuomo
  • Mike Dukakis
  • Al Gore
  • Jesse Jackson Jr.
  • Barbara Mikulski
  • Fritz Mondale
  • Doubtless many other worthy people I've forgotten

Reserved acceptance (in alpabetical order):

  • Clark --- I simply don't know enough about him
  • Gephardt --- Serial Republican enabler
  • Kerry --- Serial Republican enabler
  • Kucinich --- Unlikely to accomplish much of his program
  • Mosely-Braun -- Too nice! And what a thing to have reservations about!

Reserved acceptance, but not part of "The Nine":

  • Jimmy Carter --- He'd be term-limited-out in one term, right?


Atlant
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:44 PM
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9. Resulst
Democrat Primary Alternative Vote Results
Winner by Acceptance Voting: Gov. Howard Dean
Winner by Borda Count: Gov. Howard Dean
Winner by Condorcet Resolution: Gov. Howard Dean
Winner by Instant Runoff: Gov. Howard Dean
160 votes cast as of Wed Oct 29 08:54:29 2003 (updated several times per hour throughout the day)

Howard is 4 for 4! :)
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