John Forbes Kerry - the Richest Liberal of them all

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

His wife is so loaded, everytime Kerry goes to bed, it's a fundraiser. Kerry spent his entire life in upper class privilege. While at Yale with Bush, they joined up with Skull & Bones, the fraternity for wealthy elites, to be groomed for high office - Bush became the "bad-cop" conservative, and Kerry became the "good-cop" liberal.

After serving as an officer in Vietnam, Kerry came home and infiltrated the anti-war movement, and allowed the Skull & Bones network to co-opt the dissenters against Vietnam. He even made a big appearance where he threw someone else's medals over the White House fence, keeping his own for the days he would need to push a more "responsible" line on Vietnam, and stop posing as anti-establishment.

When the Reagan/Bush administration was arming dictators like Saddam Hussein, hiring death squads in Central and South America, and collaborating with drug dealers to launder money for right-wing gangs, Kerry played the opposition part, holding Warren Commission-style hearings, posturing as an opponent, and finally getting the whole mess out of the news. He presided over the take down of BCCI, and might have been the source that tipped off the Pakistani management so everyone could get their money out before the investigators got there.

Kerry really began to shine during Clinton's administration, where he took a lead in globalizing corporate power, pushing for NAFTA, The World Trade Organization, and corporate trade deals with the Communist regime in China. Kerry, like Clinton before him and Dean today, promised to add environmental and labor protections in the trade agreements, keeping the unions and middle class workers distracted until they passed.

Kerry, as one of the American aristocracy, feels entitled to lead the country, as Senator or President, and because of his wife's cash and his class connections, can afford to run for president strictly on television commercials and adveritisements - he doesn't need the the unions or the NAACP - Kerry's media corporation can craft an image of him as a FDR-style ally to the workers, while he continues advocating the policies of the DLC.

Life under a Kerry regime would probably be better than under Bush, since Kerry is a liberal.

[RandomKoolzip]

1. That's all well and good, but

can you tell me why Gephardt is one of the "Good?"

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. According to the standards set out in the above post....

Geppy's not a millionaire. I think he's worth around $900,000.

:shrug:

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

not quite, but you are getting there

Gephardt is owned and operated by the unions. I don't really care about his personal life, or who he has sex with. I want to know that if Gephardt sells us out, his career is over. That way he will do what we tell him.

That's why Gephardt voted against NAFTA - because if he had voted for it, his career would be over. His personal feelings in the matter are none of my business, nor do I care.

We don't have the same kind of power over the rich Yalies - they can sell us out at will, because we don't own them.

That's all, it's simple really.

[ShaneGR]

SNORE

THise thread is the suck.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

16. that's thinking strategically!

I don't choose my candidate based on their speeches, nor on the television commercials. It's about power - can you even understand that?

[cjbuchanan]

You really like conspiracies don't you

There are reasons for which you can dislike Kerry, but to suggest that 30 years ago Kerry and Bush came up with this great plan for the 2004 election, well it is very unlikely.

By the way, Kerry has said that he will not use his wife's money in this campaign.

I wish you the best of luck in finding your perfect candidate. When you do find that candidate, please post your reasons.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

sorry, I don't buy your conspiracy theories

I doubt that Bush and Kerry are friends, even though I'd expect they can both be polite to each other at cocktail parties. It seems to me that Bush and Kerry are bitter opponents, each trying to get the backing of their Skull & Bones former fratenity brothers, each trying to do the best job fronting for their sponsors.

I doubt they collaborate with each other, ever. I mean, I guess it's possible, sure, but I don't buy it.

[RegenerationMan]

17. But Teresa said "I can do what I want"

She can't spend money directly on his campaign except for $2,000 but she can donate say $100 million to The Sierra Club, the NAACP, NARAL, NRDC, NOW and so on so they can run anti-Bush ads 24/7 from April to November and no law can stop her from just sending them a check and seeing what they do with it on the TV. She just can't call them and say make me a TV ad. So the Sierra Club opens a letter from Mrs. Kerry and lo and behold it's for $2 million. They will know that if they put on $2 million worth of anti-Bush (not Pro-Kerry, just Issue Ads) commercials on, she will then send them another check for say $5 million and on it goes. No collusion, she can do what she wants.

IMAGINE PRESIDENT KERRY!!

[dsc]

24. Under McCain Feingold she can do no such thing

Issue groups must use hard money to pay for issue ads within 90 days of an election. No ads before June (last primary) and no ads after August (90 days before Nov.).

[HERVEPA]

Kennedy is rich...

and one of the most liberal senators, voting "correctly" almost all the time.

What matters is what the person will do in the White House. And as a liberal, he will do a lot of good things and at least not do the horrendous things Bush is.

Much of your post is substantiated and/or untrue.

[HERVEPA]

Kennedy is rich...

and one of the most liberal senators, voting "correctly" almost all the time.

What matters is what the person will do in the White House. And as a liberal, he will do a lot of good things and at least not do the horrendous things Bush is.

Much of your post is substantiated and/or untrue.

[RememberJohn]

39. You almost HAVE to be rich to get into politics.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

44. hence, a lot of our problems

There are plenty of scrappy working class people, like Clinton, who are successful at playing the networks and moving up. I like those kind of candidates, and I want more of them.

Not that I don't have my problems with Clinton, NAFTA was unforgivable.

[cjbuchanan]

3. You really like conspiracies don't you

There are reasons for which you can dislike Kerry, but to suggest that 30 years ago Kerry and Bush came up with this great plan for the 2004 election, well it is very unlikely.

By the way, Kerry has said that he will not use his wife's money in this campaign.

I wish you the best of luck in finding your perfect candidate. When you do find that candidate, please post your reasons.

[sangha]

4. I think your candidate threads are divisive and disruptive,

serve to undercut support for Bush*'s potential opponents, and are motivated by partisan passions.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

However,

it would be nice to see some middle class politicians running.

Nader=millionaire
Dean=millionaire
Kerry=millionaire
Lieberman=millionaire
90% of Congress=millionaires
.
.
.
etc...

There appears to be a theme here, somewhere.


"The People" will never get favorable legislation until they are duly represented.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

13. Ralph Nader is an arrogant conceited ass

I agree with you, we will never get favorable legislation until we are duly represented.

Ralph Nader thinks he's too good and holy to allow his workers to unionize - I'd never want Nader to be president - and it's a good thing he never will be.

He's a good author, and I like some of his ideas, but Nader shouldn't be allowed anywhere near power.

I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Green Party. Why waste your vote on a third-party candidate?

Just my opinion.

[CWebster]

14. Ha!

Listen to who is talking....lol.

[Trajan]

5. Ugly Red Herrings .....

The fact that a man is extremely rich DOESNT imply that such a man is heartless, self centered or WRONG ...

Kerry is not my first choice as Democratic Party nominee ... But this kind of smearing commentary is unworthy of a decent progressive .....

There is nothing inherently BAD about any of this cycle's crop of candidates .... Those who are philosophically and rhetorically weak will be naturally culled from the herd ...

Cheap shots against Kerry, Gephardt, et al, are egotistical, gratuitous and vain .....

[Cocoa]

6. I think that's counterproductive

It's possible to support Gep and the others on your "good" list without HATING Kerry or Dean or whoever.

We know that one of the recent GOP strategies is to divide the dems, especially playing on Dean vs. Kerry. Seems the dems are making an effort to resist this, witness how they've come together around the uranium thing. We should follow their lead and cool it a little.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Who Cares About Somebody's Bankroll

It's their positions that count.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

15. I care about where a candidate get's their money from

That matters a whole lot to me. If someone is getting their money from Republican oil CEOs, or ClearChannel, or Rush Limbaugh listeners, wouldn't that matter?

It matters a great deal where candidates get their money from. I want a candidate that gets their money from unions, from the NAACP, from teachers, and from the working middle class.

I don't want rich aristocrats buying their way into office, no matter what false promises they tell.

[blm]

25. Please show me where Kerry EVER took money from corporations.

He NEVER did, even long before he was married to Teresa. He has been an advocate for public financing of campaigns since 1985. Sorry, but, to say he's in the thrall of corporations at any level is just a lie. Why spread a lie?

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

29. I didn't say that, you did

I never said that John Forbes Kerry was in the thrall of corporations, nor did I say that he ever took money from corporations. Where did I say that?

Kerry is a wealthy, elitist, liberal aristocrat. He'd make a much better president than Bush, but then again, who wouldn't?

Kerry's record as an advocate for the wealthy elite liberals is pretty clear. He supports global corporate power, as evidenced by his support of NAFTA and GATT, but as a liberal, he wants the non-corporate elitists, like himself, involved in global government as well. I'd guess he wants the dean of Yale and Harvard to have a place in international institutions like the WTO, as opposed to just corporate representatives. He seems to want rich liberals like himself to be right up there with the corporate CEOs and boards of directors.

Take issue with what I say, sure, but don't put words in my mouth. I'm not running for president, Mr. Forbes-Kerry is.

[blm]

30. You implied he's a corporatist many times.

You said you cared WHERE their money comes from. His policies have consistently been PRO Union and PRO small business and PRO environment. Your insinuations cannot change the facts of his lengthy record.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

32. We know where Kerry gets his money from

As a wealthy aristocrat, Kerry has plenty of his own money, that means he is independent of the AFL-CIO, the NAACP, the public workers unions, and that means he is independent of us, the citizens of America.

He obviously supports global corporate government, as evidenced by his record. He is also a liberal, evidenced by his votes on some nice legislation.

On the really big questions, the questions of political power, it's pretty obvious whose side Kerry is on.

[blm]

33. No, YOU DON'T!

Why don't you look up for yourself about Kerry and his individual donor list. The man NEVER used corporate money. He became senator in 1985 and married Teresa almost 10 years LATER. Kerry did not have much personal money, and had to work through college, and worked in public service after school and Vietnam. He did just recently inherit money after his mother's death last fall.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

34. He wasn't rich, it was his mother?

haha, okay :) Sorry, I don't want any more elitist aristocrats in office. Give me a Clinton, a Truman, a Gephardt, or maybe even a Clark, Edwards, or Graham - I haven't decided on them yet.

No way I'm voting Skull vs. Bones, and no way I'm support the official DLC alternative, Dean.

I know exactly what I'm doing. And no one's paying me for it, which is more than I can say for some people here.

I WANT MY DEMOCRATIC PARTY BACK.

Besides, Kerry just doesn't look "presidential" - he can't win. Let's not waste our votes here.

[blm]

37. You assumed once again.

Kerry's immediate family was not well off as others were in their family. His father was a career public servant. His mother's family had money but it was diminished quite a bit by sheer numbers. He had to work through college, and always had to work hard to achieve his success. His mother's money didn't pass on to her till much later in life.

Why you choose to assume the worst about Kerry is beyond reason. Why you never address the truth about his life and his legislative record is another mystery.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

50. okay fine, Kerry is only super rich, not super-duper rich

Are you happy now? I'm not going to be voting for yet another rich Skull & Bones Yalie, especially not since there are so many good candidates in the race.

Who knows, if Kerry quit the fraternity, and told us that he regretted hooking up with those people, perhaps I'd change my mind.

I'm not holding my breath.

[blm]

53. Some S&Bs were rich legacies like Bush...

others were tapped because of their personal achievements. Kerry was not "super rich" or even rich. He worked during his college years. His family did not even own a home for most of his growing up years, and lived in the homes of other family members. I repeat, his father was a career public servant.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Who Cares About Somebody's Bankroll

It's their positions that count.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

21. Then why do you bash Bush?

After all, it's possible to support Democrats without HATING Bush isn't it?

Face it, some people in the Democratic party are on my side, and some of them aren't. It's perfectly acceptable to call Lieberman Republican Lite - why not the rich Yalies? Is it becamse Lieberman is Jewish? Why is it okay to bash him, but not the others?

I can hardly tell the difference between Lieberman and some of the other candidates. If it's okay to bash the Jewish candidate, it's okay to bash the Protestant candidates too.

[Cocoa]

41. you have a point about Lieberman

most of the attacks on him are as free of substance or purpose as your attack on Kerry. Lieberman supporters are treated really shabbily here, I think.

But the factors that you're basing your negative opinion of Kerry on are really really really stupid, imo, and they happen to match what I consider to be a right-wing smear campaign against him.

And I think it's very possible that the skull and bones and "thrown medals" angles are actively encouraged by the republicans, to be spread around, especially on the Internet.

The S&B angle carries the message "you can't trust Kerry" and the medals story neutralizes his antiwar stance. There are other stories being spread out there that neutralize his Vietnam service as well. Please don't make these your next post.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

47. Plenty of substantial reasons to bash Kerry

Kerry, as a rich aristocrat, didn't HAVE to take the lead on corporate globalization, he didn't HAVE to promote NAFTA, and he didn't HAVE to support sending American jobs to Communist China. He had the political power to vote no, and he voted yes.

In my book, Kerry is as bad as the Republicans, when it comes to who has power in society, the rich, or me.

I'll even forgive a working-class person like Clinton for pushing NAFTA, since he pretty much had to, or risk his career. I don't like it, but I'm not going to judge another working class person for what they have to do to survive. I'd rather have a Gephardt, who voted no.

But Kerry has no excuse, he's not loyal to me. I can't help but think his background is partly the cause of his inability to show me solidarity.

[DrGonzoLives]

8. FDR was rich too

And God knows he was the worst Democratic president of all time, right?

There is nothing else in your flame bait that is even worth addressing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Wasn't JFK a pauper (sic)

[RummyTheDummy]

9. Nothing new here...

I'm by no means a Kerry supporter but this is the same tired, boring tripe that's been trotted out on this board ad naseum in the last six months.
Who cares. Not like he's going to get the nomination anyway.

[molly]

10. You know what they say about ASSUME?

a candidate's wealth and/or social status have very little to do with how much good they will do our country. I would appreciate - along with many on this board - if those of you looking down their noses at wealth tell us what you would do if you had that opportunity. There are good and bad and compassionate and not in all walks of life.

It would be better to channel your indigation towards helping get rid of the corruption in the WH instead of pointing fingers and making assumptions.

[ima_sinnic]

11. here you go again with another candidate-bashing thread

you really are tiresome with your venom.
if you think that's going to make me or anybody else feel favorable toward your bland, boring, uninspiring, insipid, hackneyed, wannabe, Iraq-war-approving loser candidate, Dick Gephardt, THINK AGAIN.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Isn't Jay Rockefeller

the richest liberal of them all. Or it Ted Kennedy. Or is it Jon Corzine of Golman Sachs. Or is it Mark Dayton, owner of Datyon Hudson Store and Target. Or it Herb Kohl, owner of Kohls and the Milwaukke Bucs, or is it Frank Lautenberg, founder of EDS, or is it John Edwards


You get my drift...

Having great wealth and progressive views are not mutually exclusive. Hell, some of my rich friends are so far to the left they make me look like a conservative.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

20. I don't mind a sell-out, as long as I'm buying

When will you people get that through your head? I have strong doubts Gephardt will be the one. But we still own him at this point - don't you get it?

[blm]

dupe

:

[blm]

Kerry helped craft Kyoto Accord (anti corporate)

Kerry has a 17 year 91% labor voting record (anti corporate)

Kerry promoted legislation favorable to SMALL business OVER large corps. (anti corporate)

Kerry is seeking to stop FCC deision through existing small business legislation. (anti corporate)

Kerry NEVER accepted corporate pac money

Kerry took some BCCI cases to STATE attorney generals when US attorneys failed to indict.

Kerry is favored by Kweisi Mfume (pres. of the NAACP)

Kerry is favored by McEntee (pres, of AFSCME)

Kerry has the BEST environmental record ever of any candidate

[ilpostino]

Idiot Wind

"They say I shot a man named Gray
And took his wife to Italy
She inherited a million bucks
And when she died
It came to me
I can't help it,
If I'm lucky..."
--B. Dylan

[blm]

Kerry helped craft Kyoto Accord (anti corporate)

Kerry has a 17 year 91% labor voting record (anti corporate)

Kerry promoted legislation favorable to SMALL business OVER large corps. (anti corporate)

Kerry is seeking to stop FCC deision through existing small business legislation. (anti corporate)

Kerry NEVER accepted corporate pac money

Kerry took some BCCI cases to STATE attorney generals when US attorneys failed to indict.

Kerry is favored by Kweisi Mfume (pres. of the NAACP)

Kerry is favored by McEntee (pres, of AFSCME)

Kerry has the BEST environmental record ever of any candidate

[ilpostino]

Idiot Wind

"They say I shot a man named Gray
And took his wife to Italy
She inherited a million bucks
And when she died
It came to me
I can't help it,
If I'm lucky..."
--B. Dylan

[blm]

12. Kerry helped craft Kyoto Accord (anti corporate)

Kerry has a 17 year 91% labor voting record (anti corporate)

Kerry promoted legislation favorable to SMALL business OVER large corps. (anti corporate)

Kerry is seeking to stop FCC deision through existing small business legislation. (anti corporate)

Kerry NEVER accepted corporate pac money

Kerry took some BCCI cases to STATE attorney generals when US attorneys failed to indict.

Kerry is favored by Kweisi Mfume (pres. of the NAACP)

Kerry is favored by McEntee (pres, of AFSCME)

Kerry has the BEST environmental record ever of any candidate

[Lexingtonian]

18. Classism alert! Classism alert!

The Classism-o-meter just hit 152%!

[GalleryGod]

19. Let Me Just GUESS Who Your Candidate is?

:puffpiece: you may gladly count the votes yourself once the primary season commences:kick: Until then....

[dsc]

22. Despicable

I won't go into a point by point discussion as other have done so already. I just want to be sure to be on record against this kind of garbage. Support whom you like but I have to say whomever you do support would be ashamed of such drivel.

[CWebster]

23. NAACP and Lieberman. Gephardt, Kerry and Edwards

"NAACP officials and some campaigns said the real reason was a little-known agreement among four of the nine Democrats in the race -- Lieberman, Gephardt, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and North Carolina Sen. John Edwards -- to limit their joint appearances.

Kerry and Edwards attended the forum only after intense negotiations and sharp warnings from Mfume not to take the NAACP for granted."



http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0718-08.htm

The Insiders who voted for the war, made a deal between themselves...

If AfroAmericans are expendable, you don't really think they care about working class whites?

[blm]

26. Haha...wrong info...

Kerry was always going to attend. He was only working out which DAY he would speak.

Kweisi Mfume is already on board with Kerry, and said he'd love to see Kerry as president last summer.

[CWebster]

27. HA yerself - read the link

yerself. ;-)

[blm]

31. I did..the info was wrong.

Kerry was always attending the convention, and was only discussing when. He wanted to attend earlier in the schedule.

[dsc]

36. Then Mr. Mfume

was even more disingenuous in his treatment of at least Kucinich and maybe Gephardt than I had thought. It is bad enough to castigate an elected Representative, who even Conyers says has a great record, for missing a forum to do his job but now we know he did so as a supporter of another candidate and that he never said this during a lengthy speech.


It should also be noted that both you and Webster are right. The article is wrong when it implies that Kerry was thinking of skipping the whole convention but Mfume made clear it was the forum which mattered to him. Kerry was going to miss that forum and for the reason the article states. Which makes Webester's point accurate.

[blm]

40. I think the problem with

Kucinich was a problem of miscommunications with his campaign. Same with Gephardt. I highly doubt it was with the candidates themselves.

[dsc]

42. I can only assume that you didn't

read accounts of Mr. Mfume's speech then. It was an exceptionally bitter denunciation of those who were not going to show up to that forum. You don't tell an African American audience that a candidate's credibility is equivalent to Confederate Money due to poor communication with their campaign. Also Kucinich has not missed a single House vote since his campaign started. He would have had to miss three to go to that forum. His campaign, nor his office, could change that fact.

[blm]

54. Well...I attribute that

partially to theatrics. Mfume expressing himself strongly is a reflection of his constituency. Why do some Dems fall for Dean? Because his hot rhetoric fit in with their discontent. with the Dems. It wasn't fair of him to call the other Dems "Bushlite". Many of his supporters find that attractive and excuse him for it even when he goes over the top. Not you...but many others.

[dsc]

55. My problems with him

aren't what he said. It is that as a former US Rep he has to know how the game there works. Kucinich promised his constituents that he wouldn't miss votes to campaign for President. He has no control of when votes are taken. Thus he had a legitimate reason he couldn't control to miss that forum. The other problem is that nowhere in Mfume's speech does he say even one time that he supports Kerry. Whatever is said about Dean's speeches they are viewed not as the speeches of a disinterested party but as the speeches of a candidate. Mfume on the other hand is thought of as nuetral in this race (the NAACP legally has to be). I bet you are the only person who knew of this endorsement who is on DU. If a person is going to give a speech that is that critical of some of the candidates then it is incumbent on him to let listeners know he has endorsed a candidate in that race. Otherwise it is viewed much differently by a listener. That was disengenuous.

Had he said he endorsed Kerry and confined his criticism to people who had missed the forum for reasons that weren't unavoidable in my opinion he could have used whatever words he chose in his speech. He did neither and that was the problem.

[blm]

56. Mfume does NOT

endorse Kerry as head of the NAACP because the NAACP does NOT endorse at all. His preference is personal. This was a NAACP event.

[sandnsea]

28. Just vote for Bush then

Why bother thinking at all.

[MasonJar]

35. Kerry

That is an analysis full of loaded words and innuendos. So what if as a young man he joined Skull and Bones. He has been a good solid American, who has helped in a lot of good causes. His wife cannot give any more than $2000 of her own money. And he is patrician; Bush is undoubtedly an embarrassment to Yale. Kerry is not. Having money is not in itself a detriment; Remember Roosevelt.

[Octafish]

38. YOU SOUND JUST LIKE BUSH. ANY RELATION?

Kerry has earned the right to be the Democratic nominee for President. He served his nation honorably in Vietnam, where he received three Purple Hearts in four months, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star. When he came home, he did what he had to do to raise awareness in the press and in Congress about the true situation in Vietnam.

As a Massachusetts state attorney, Kerry helped bust and prosecute the head of an organized crime family. Gee. While not a smart move politically, it was the right move morally. Heaven knows we could use someone like that to clean up the mess in Washington! Kerry said he's going to go after the Bush Organized Crime Family, saying he will appoint an HONEST ATTORNEY GENERAL. Kenny Boy Lay is going to look good in prison jumpsuit orange. So will George W. Bush.

As a lifelong Liberal Democrat , Kerry would use the office of President to make this a better country for ALL citizens, doing all possible to improve public education, make higher education accessible to all who want to go to college, improve the economy and protect the environment. His entire career, Kerry has seen and demonstrated what government can do to protect the environment, improve the quality of life of all citizens, and made the world a better place through public service.

WhoCountsTheVotes, INFILTRATE THIS! Lies like those in the original post on this thread falsely label a good Democrat. In fact, they serve the same purpose as all the lies Karl Rove and his minions spread. In this case, these are the LIES several posters have been spreading on DU for more than a year. Several popped forehead veins when I mentioned it on one of my last DU1 threads.

Most importantly: John Kerry is the last real Liberal since Bobby Kennedy who has the “Credentials” needed to attract voters from the middle and, thus, win the Presidency. Who knows what he can do, given the chance. I think the majority of all voters would feel the same way.


PS: FUCK YOU, BUSH!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

43. looks to me like it's KERRY that looks like BUSH

Yet another wealthy, aristocratic Yalie. Bush, Kerry, Kerry, Bush. Of course, Kerry is about a million times smarter than Bush, obviously. Kerry's a liberal. He should stay in the Senate.

Besides, Kerry just doesn't look "presidential" enough - he just doesn't have the looks, I know, it's shallow, but that's the way it is! Let's not waste our votes on someone unelectable.

Don't hate the player, hate the game :)

[jpgray]

45. Kerry lived on a shoestring for some time

He took out a $473,000 loan to purchase a home in Washington, thinking his daughters would be staying with him for periods of time. It was "a huge mistake," he says, as he found himself returning to Boston most weekends to maintain his ties to his children and the state. He sold the D.C. home and bought a Boston condo but "lost his shirt" when he sold it a few years later, as he told the Globe in 1996. "He was broke," Blum says.

(snip)

Sometimes, he stayed with a girlfriend who had been his former law partner, Roanne Sragow, now a district court judge in Massachusetts. (She declined to be interviewed.) Or he stayed with a Vietnam buddy or on a per diem basis in condos owned by wealthy contributors: developers Finch and Edward W. Callan, and lobbyist and campaign fund-raiser Robert Farmer. Eventually, he rented a one-room apartment in Washington and an apartment in Boston.

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/062003.shtml

Most of his money is really his wife's.

[sendero]

46. your attack on Kerry...

... tries to make points without supporting evidence, is full of unfounded innuendo, and is in general scurrilous.

On the other hand, it isn't half as bad as several of the attacks on Dean I've seen here lately. :)

[curse10]

48. Jesus H. Christ

are you really suggesting that Kerry's liberalism is just fake?

Yep, I could really see someone pretending to be liberal for twenty-some years. :eyes:

This is just bullshit.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

49. Kerry is a rich liberal, let him stay in the Senate

He's also a supporter of global corporate government, so he's certainly not on my side. I'll make common cause with him, but I don't want him to be President.

[GeronimoSkull]

51. Excellent summary

:toast:

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

52. thanks!

there's a least a few of us who don't buy the BS!