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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:46 PM
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Aieeeeeeeeeeeee!! Luntz and Fineman critical of *
on Hardball now.

:wow:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:47 PM
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1. i'm watching BABY
and i suddenly want your body EVEN MORE! :P
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:48 PM
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2. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sneaking up on me, eh???? :*

:hi:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:48 PM
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3. you kidding?
FULL FRONTAL MY LOVE!!

:bounce:
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:49 PM
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5. M.A.T.C.O.M. strikes again!
:evilgrin:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:50 PM
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6. you talking about THIS?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:52 PM
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12. Of course!
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 07:53 PM by goobergunch
The triad of M.A.T.C.O.M. is famous throughout Goobergunchia.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:04 PM
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23. As usual , # 3 is not here in our time of need!
x(
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:49 PM
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4. Another sign of the apocalypse?
:wow:
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:51 PM
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9. I know
He's been slamming Bush all night; it's like the time he outed Ann Coulter as a flack for the Republican Party line.

By the way, as a CS major, I'd like to correct their implication:
The Republican line is:
If we are losing troops, then we are successful.
The contrapositive of this statement, which must therefore be true, is:
If we are failing, we are not losing troops.

From this standpoint, it's easier to see why this doesn't make sense - if we were failing, why would our troops be more likely to survive?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:50 PM
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7. Dammit dammit dammit!
I missed it! Just turned over and am currently being amused by the Kentucky Gubernatorial Campaign commercials...

Frankie "The Whore" Luntz turned on *? What did he say?

This is earthshattering...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:56 PM
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13. They are still discussing *
tune in!!!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:22 PM
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29. Hardball on at 11PM again. nt
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:51 PM
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8. Wow, that was pretty fucking scathing
I only caught the end but if that was indication, holy cow...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:51 PM
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10. It took a Lot for that
luntz toad to be "critical of bush".
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:03 PM
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22. Who is LUNTZ?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:30 PM
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33. Luntz is a RW polling guy who does focus group stuff. nt
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:29 PM
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32. Zid, Luntz was critical...oh I can't wait to see this. nt
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:52 PM
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11. zounds and forsooth, you beat me to it AGAIN!
:D
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:57 PM
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15. Bwahahahahaha
:hi:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:57 PM
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14. Luntz: WE NEED MORE PROPOGANDA
What an asshole.

Jeebus, what fucking planet am I on? They should just show Norman Rockwell scenes of fucking Iraq? What a lunatic. WTF? Show images of electricity???? The guy's insane!!!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:58 PM
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16. But you see
Fineman keeps bringing him back to reality.

Tweety too.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:02 PM
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20. Luntz whoring his a**off now

Saying we're not getting the "right" pictures from Iraq - people will react differently if "positive" stuff shown.

This guy has NO credibility left - if he had any to begin with.

Geez, ya think he found Limbaugh's main man?

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:31 PM
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34. Well let's see the f*cking pictures! There are none.
If there were, they would be on the TV 24/7, that's how we KNOW things are really bad.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:06 PM
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25. I'm waiting for Luntz to get picked up by CBS
to implement his "Iraq news" strategy for the domestic audience.

Here I am, 2.5 years without a steady job. Is it bush's fault? No, it's the media's fault! Why, if the media was showing pictures of Americans turning their lightswitches off and on, everything would be better and companies would be hiring left and right. How about hours and hours of videos showing cars moving through intersections NOT having accidents? Or kids trolloping off to school? That would get me a job for sure!

Want to stop our troops getting killed in bush/cheney's little oil war? Just have CBS feature footage of grass growing in a local park. All is well!

Thanks for clearing that up for us, Luntz (you fuckin' asshole).
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:29 PM
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31. LOL! Yup!
Exactly...I'd never seen him before, I didn't realize he was that young and he's very animated, but is he always that insane? I mean it was like bizzarro world, I almost couldn't believe it...The shit he was saying, I really can't believe that there are people stupid enough to buy that shit...Matthews and Fineman were way too polite, he actually really deserved to be (pardon the term for those of you PC!) bitchlapped silly and reprimanded for so overtly suggesting w/ no shading whatsoever that the press should be a blatant propoganda tool of the WH...I may be the truth, but to be so obscenely blatant about it? Something is seriously, seriously wrong...
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:07 PM
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26. Righto
We need to sugarcoat the images to sell it to the folks back home.

The amazing thing is he wasn't even conscious of the obvious deception he was peddling. That was pretty bad.

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:32 PM
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35. They don't even have "sugar-coated" images, & that's why it is so sick.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:58 PM
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17. Drug humour is in poor taste, CatWoman....


No WAY would "Fine" and Luntz betray their master... you're pulling my leg!

:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:01 PM
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19. LOL Sagan
:hi:

I BS you not!!!!

Will post the transcript when it becomes available.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:59 PM
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18. Ah yes - the pitter patter of little rat's feet going over the side.

Look for more fearless critism of * in the days to come by formerly adoring whores as the attempt to distance themselves from * in order to suck up to the new president.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:15 PM
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28. Pitter patter of little rat's feet
Now that is one brilliant image!

LOL
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:02 PM
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21. What did they say?
I simply refuse to watch msgop.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:05 PM
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24. Quick! Check!
Are there any monkeys flying out of my butt?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:11 PM
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27. Whenever Luntz and Fineman do this dance it means sumpthin's up.
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 08:13 PM by blm
They may be ready for some WMD planting in Iraq or time for Saddam or Bin Laden to be captured.

Everything is a calculation with Luntz. EVERYTHING. He's an advance man for the BFEE propaganda machine. If he's criticizing Bush, it's only because they WANT him to.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:28 PM
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30. whoreography!

dance *, dance!!



many more TOONS in the sig link (as alwaysa0
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:44 PM
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39. HAHAH...whoreography!
good job!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:34 PM
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37. Hey, why does everyone hate Fineman?
Is something wrong w/ me? <don't answer> I have mostly found ol' Howard to be okay...gets the inner scoop on Washington etc.

I mean I don't like him all the time, but I have never understood why everyone hates this guy.

He just recently wrote an good article on Dean...hey, I am happy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:43 PM
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38. He wasn't Media Whore of the Year for nothing.
He's been writing articles pumping Dean since the beginning of the year. Those of us who never trust Fineman were immediately skeptical of his motives there.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:32 PM
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36. Luntz called himself a "linguist" a la Noam Chomsky
Matthews called him a "Republican Pollster", which is at least better than "pollster", which is what he used to call him.

Neither of these terms is correct.

Frank Luntz is an extremely frustrated Propagandist.

He did a horrible job tonight trying to get traction on some spin, but to me, it sounded like "The American people will accept this load of crap if we show them pictures of schools open and puppies frolicking". He was completely unconvincing and he looked down about it.

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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:52 PM
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40. There's a general sense that it's over for Bush
He has the aura of a loser. If the Republican primary were open, McCain would beat him hand down.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:54 PM
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41. "general Sense"
That's a good nickname for Wesley, too :)
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:37 PM
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42. Fineman made a passing reference to "Hardball's" drooling
over the flight suit.

He said something like "you live and die by the photo-op. People were impressed, we were impressed on Hardball."

Not nearly strong enough. They were positively shameful after that stunt. They were obnoxious with people who were correctly critical of the stunt. They were literally laughing in those correct people's faces. They said "John Kerry could never pull that off."
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