Transcript from Olbermann's show is up. Takes it to the White House.

[madfloridian]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/984616.asp

John Loftus:
SNIP..."Grover Norquist’s best friend is Karl Rove, the White House chief of staff, and apparently Norquist was able to fix things. He got extreme right wing Muslim people to be the gatekeepers in the White House. That’s why moderate Americans couldn’t speak out after 9/11. Moderate Muslims couldn’t get into the White House because Norquist’s friends were blocking their access..."

[spooky3]

1. Keith Olbermann is the best thing on MSNBC. (eom)

[ewagner]

2. Haven't seen the news today

Has there been any play on this story.

There SHOULD BLOODY WELL BE!

[VolcanoJen]

3. Sweeeeeeeeet!

Thanks for the link, madfloridian! We've been waiting for this!!

[lefty_mcduff]

4. Watched this twice last night...

..unbelievable. Links members of the WH with sponsors of Islamic terrorist groups. Yet, not a peep outta the Librul Media. Who'da thunk?

[jbfam4]

6. I thought this story was going to be

all over the liberal media tv stations today. So why isn't it being covered? Maybe they aren't as liberal as the spinners say.

[KoKo]

5. Oh Geeze! Check this out from Frank Gaffney's site! Ties to 9/11!

Headline Story | Friday, October 24, 2003



Complete with Pix! This is from the conservative "Center for Security Policy" (PNAC/RW Site)




Prosecutors: Architect of Pentagon's Muslim
chaplain program funded al Qaeda

"The architect of the Pentagon's program to train Islamic clerics
to minister to Muslim soldiers provided financial support to both
al Qaeda and Hamas through a series of Islamic charities, federal
prosecutors alleged in a new court ruling," according to the Wall
Street Journal.

The Journal'sGlenn Simpson reports that Abdurahman Alamoudi
(aka Abdur Rahman Alamoudi), a leading Muslim political activist
in Washington who founded and funded several Islamic pressure
groups, was arrested in late September after British authorities
found him in London with $340,000 in cash from Libya.

Alamoudi founded the American Muslim Council (AMC) in 1990,
and persuaded the Clinton Administration to let him set up a
Muslim chaplain corps in the Pentagon, whose officers his
organization would approve for duty as chaplains.
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=today

[KoKo]

7. Washington Post Today! US Indicts Prominent Muslim Here! Almoudi!

(This article doesn't focus on Norquist, but it's bad enough. I think the Norquist link will be exposed in later articles)

U.S. Indicts Prominent Muslim Here
Affidavit: Alamoudi Funded Terrorists

By Douglas Farah
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 24, 2003; Page A01

One of the nation's most prominent Muslim activists was indicted yesterday on money laundering and fraud charges hours after
authorities unsealed an affidavit alleging that for years he helped fund al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

Abdurahman Alamoudi, whose efforts gave Muslim Americans unparalleled access to the White House and Congress, was not
formally charged with supporting terrorism. Instead, the 18-count indictment accused Alamoudi of the less serious offenses of
taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from Libya, designated a state sponsor of terrorism by the State Department, and
attempting to hide its origin and purpose from U.S. authorities.

In a separate document prepared for a hearing on whether Alamoudi should continue to be held without bond, authorities laid
out a more wide-ranging description of his alleged connections to terrorism.

That document alleges that hundreds of thousands of dollars were moved through charities run by Alamoudi to groups that
supported terrorism. Members of one group that received $160,000 from an Alamoudi-run charity in 2000 were implicated in
the foiled December 2000 Millennium plot by al Qaeda to blow up Los Angeles International Airport and Seattle's Space
Needle.

Stanley L. Cohen, Alamoudi's attorney, said the indictment showed the government could not make a terrorism case.

"Once again, despite all the government's hyperbolic ravings and trying to link Muslims to al Qaeda, Hamas and global jihad, at
the end of the day, this is an indictment that only alleges violation of a regulatory scheme with Libya," Cohen said. "It is no
different from thousands of other cases."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9149-2003Oct23.html

[DeepModem Mom]

10. Page one of WaPo is first step ---

I'm hoping against hope they'll take it to the level of the Olbermann transcript, and beyond. As in the Plame exposure, these people compromise and endanger our national security, and the safety of individual Americans. These stories are as frightening as they are astounding.

[Hoppin_Mad]

8. More !!! STRANGE BEDFELLOWS - Grover Norquist and Abdurahman Alamoudi

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/this_just_in/documents/01848515.htm

[Brian Sweat]

9. Andrew Card is the White House Chief of Staff.

Rove is Bush's senior advisor. You would think someone like John Loftus would know this.

[madfloridian]

13. I am quite sure he knows that. Perhaps he misspoke?

If you have not been to his website, there is some good research there. My gripe with him is that he is too comfortable with Bush II. He never attributes any wrong to him.

[slaveplanet]

25. I heard Loftus

//Rove is Bush's senior advisor. You would think someone like John Loftus would know this.//

from another interview say that Rove actually does not hold any officially appointed position, he is in effect a paid advisor, form the private sector.

[Atman]

11. A problem here...

I'm a junkie for this sort of thing. Personally, I can't stand Oberman...I think he is still too right leaning for my taste. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, I hadn't heard a word about this. If this is big news, it is only so to the 127 people who watch MSNBC. Wal Mart Nation is still stupified.

[madfloridian]

12. There are articles on this, and letters, from 2002.

There are several threads going with many many links. Do a search and read some of it.

This is news that has been known by some, the media has not carried it.

Not sure what your point is, but we all know about the media, ok?

[KoKo]

14. Kick this! Links and info here for ties with Karl Rove/Norquist Almoudi.

:kick:

[KoKo]

15. Here's original WaPo Article with link to Rove/Bush. Good background.

Alleged Terrorist Met With Bush Adviser
Al-Arian Part of Muslim Outreach

By Mike Allen and Richard Leiby
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, February 22, 2003; Page A10

A former university professor indicted this week as a terrorist leader attended a 2001 group meeting in the White House
complex with President Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, administration officials said yesterday.

Sami Al-Arian, a former computer engineering professor at the University of South Florida, had been under investigation by the
FBI for at least six years at the time of the June 2001 briefing for a Muslim organization. Numerous news accounts also had
said federal agents suspected Al-Arian of links to terrorism.

Al-Arian was indicted Thursday on charges that he conspired to aid suicide bombings in Israel and the Palestinian territories
and has served for years as a leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist organization. Seven others in the United States and
abroad were also indicted on a variety of charges.

(snip)

Al-Arian has told The Post that he and wife Nahla campaigned for Bush in Florida mosques and elsewhere because they thought
him the candidate most likely to fight discrimination against Arab Americans.

But before that, Al-Arian posed with Bush and his wife, Laura, at the Florida Strawberry Festival on March 12, 2000, a moment
captured in an Al-Arian family photo.

(snip)

The White House official said officials did not know the circumstances of the photo but said a list of Florida volunteers for Bush's
campaign shows that that Al-Arian "wasn't a volunteer."

Six days after Al-Arian's meeting with Rove, a delegation of Muslim community activists stormed out of the White House complex
after the Secret Service ejected Al-Arian's son, an intern for then-Rep. David E. Bonior (D-Mich.).

The Secret Service sent the son an apology on Aug. 13, 2001, calling the incident "a Secret Service error in processing visitors."
Bush signed an Aug. 2, 2001, letter to Al-Arian's wife, thanking her for a book she sent him and expressing "regret" about how her
son was treated. "I have been assured that everything possible is being done to ensure that nothing like this happens again," Bush
wrote.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A44894-2003Feb21?language=printer

[grasswire]

16. IF YOU VALUE OLBERMANN...

...then you'd better write a note to the show and let them know it.

Provide the guy some cover. He's got his neck out there.

And don't sound like a lefty when you write -- just thank them for the unique perspective and truth-telling.


[e-mail]

[grasswire]

17. wouldn't it be great....

.....if NBC replaced Tom Brokaw with Olbermann, not Brian Williams?

Wow. The mind boggles.

[TacticalPeek]

23. Too much boggle for the corporate mind.

Maybe as weekend/vacation fill-in?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

18. From another thread

I guess it's time to abandon that other thread...it keeps sinking. But this thing should have legs, really big ones. Anyway, here's some pertinent information r.e. what's known, so far:

Summary of what is known so far:

-Karl Rove and Grover Norquist are dear friends. Rove attends Norquist's weekly policy meeting where they decide how to take over the world, a la Pinky and the Brain.

-Grover Norquist founded the Islamic Institute

-The Islamic Institute received seed money from Abdurahman Alamoudi.

-Abdurahman Alamoudi is a vocal supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah

-Alamoudi’s Palm Pilot included the names and numbers of six designated global terrorists

-Alamoudi recruited the tranlators at Gitmo who have been arrested for stealing secrets. Apparently CIA interrogation logs were stolen and given to the Saudis.

-Alamoudi met with Karl Rove in the White House in 2001.


Also of interest is that Frank Gaffeney of PNAC fame is apparently orchestrating a takedown of Grover Norquist. There's the catty correspondence, but I'm wondering if it was time to make Norquist and Rove and possibly even Bush into sacrificial lambs. Purely speculation on my part, but there's definitely something going on.

Let's add to this list. Let's build a timeline. Let's look at motive (e.g., why was Norquist so interested in starting an Islamic foundation in the first place? One could hypothesize that if LIHOP is true, the White House needs to have a way to get in touch with their Al Qaeda buddies).

By the way, I had all of this stuff properly sourced, but my pc rebooted itself before I could post. It all comes from The Washington Post, MSNBC, and the Snellius thread (thanks, Snellius!).

[TacticalPeek]

24. As usual, follow the money; especially with Grovel Norquist.

He needed years of funding to wage his war to destroy government. He may have just noticed the 'availability' of rich Arabs looking for Washington connections. And I hate to even bring this up, but I believe Nader was sniffing up Grovel not long ago.

[KoKo]

27. DisgustipatedinCA, thanks for the "Timeline." If this thread dies, maybe

you could repost with the links. I've added some here from the other threads trying to get them in one place, but I haven't had the time today to put it all together. If you could do it with the links in your post, maybe it would make sense to people.

I had a hard enough time putting it together in my own mind from reading the different links.
Thanks!

[KoKo]

19. It would be great if we saw this story connected in Newsweek or Time!

It's all out there, with PNAC folks running from Norquist, but until it's all connected in a big connected story, like we have tried to do here, then what will happen?

This has got to be a HUGE SCANDAL! Grover Norquist connected to terrorists? The guy who has weekly breakfast meetings with Rove! The guy who was the architect of Bush's "downsizing of the US government?"

I read all the links from the many threads here late last night and early this morning. I thought this was the biggest thing I've seen yet to derail the BFEE.....talk about legs.

When Frank Gaffney (the link is above on this thread) is running for his life to distance himself from Norquest it has to be HUGE! See my Post here #5 and check out his website. PNAC/RW FUNDIE connects.....the belly of the beast!

But, oddly even most DU'ers don't seem to be interested in this story. :shrug:

[LiviaOlivia]

28. Agreed, this is very important

With the arrests of Gitmo personel this may leave
the WH no place to hid. It should be interesting
to see how they try and slime their way out of this.

[SpiralHawk]

20. a "turning point" for honest conservatives?

This could be a big one.

I have friends and family who vote Republican and are honest, hard-working, and patriotic in the best senses of those terms. They are at the breaking point with the Bush Admin. and Republican Congress, and all the messes they are making.

This latest unmasking of the truth behind the facade -- if widespread in the media -- could be a key turning point for them and thousands of other American citizens. I mean, this story is a real head turner.

Let the truth be revealed. May justice prevail.

[maggrwaggr]

21. kicking. This is a huge story, finally the tip of the iceberg revealed

I sure hope this gets out there. I really think this is the very beginning of the truth about 9/11.

:kick:

[maggrwaggr]

22. Just sent an e-mail to Olberman's show

praising it. It is, actually, the only decent news show on cable television. Now if they can only get rid of Scarface.

[slaveplanet]

26. the whole sad story

behind the story...is , the bulk of this info was available from 3/20/2002 on.....well before the case was made to go to war....against Iraq????....Seems Saudi Arabia would have been the proper target....and bombs of the exploding variety may not have been needed to acheive damage.

[Unknown Known]

29. There's so many dots now that the page is turning black!!

Egads!:wow:

[KoKo]

30. More Background for DU'ers with "Inquiring Minds" : Expose of Norquist!

"All Politics Jeff Koopersmit was onto this way back. This is a long article and goes into all the information Senator Levin uncovered about Norquists funding of RNC Campaigns in Oregon and elsewhere. Janet Reno didn't prosecute him, back in '97. If you don't have time to read it then just look at Koopersmith's reference to Jake Tapper's Salon article about Norquist in the box on the left of the webpage with Koop's article. I wonder what influence Noquist had in the Florida Fiasco after reading this article. Saudi's funding the Repug rukus down there when the vote was being counted? Saudi's funding the whole election debaucle? How BIG does this get? BIG...BIGGER.....BIGGEST!


Grover Norquist: At It Again?
Will Attorney General John Ashcroft indict him this
time -- or will Karl Rove give him a "Get out of Jail
Free" card?
By Jeff Koopersmith

December 9, 2002 -- WASHINGTON (APJP) -- During the summer of
1997 I began to follow the infamous career of one Grover Norquist -- the
President of something called Americans for Tax Reform, a thinly veiled
money-laundering operation operating from the nation's capitol.

Norquist is so dirty, so sleazy, that even pugnacious conservative pundit Tucker Carlson dumped
a drink on his balding head in a DC bar one night.

Norquist seems to defy gravity, spinning above the compass of Attorneys General from
Washington, DC to the state of Oregon -- and appears to enjoy the protection of the White House,
specifically that of Karl Rove, Junior Bush's top political advisor.

So I took a look back at that article I wrote in 1997, when I warned Grover that the end of his career
as "the small-minded Harvard squeak-by who preys on minorities, gays and anyone else who
doesn't fit into your delusional, power hungry world" was at hand, and decided to bring it up to date
with details of Grover's latest scam -- a new cash-cleaning operation, news of which broke
yesterday.

So listen up, Grover:

From now on, abandoned by members of your Americans for Tax Reform, your friends at the
American Conservative Union, your confederates at the National Rifle Association, you'll no longer
be welcome at little "conservative" get-togethers. Your own weekly liberal roasts will draw a
smaller and smaller audience, and your legal bills will cripple your ability to buy $20 cigars.

But you have one thing to look forward to: like Ebenezer Scrooge, once you're indicted, you'll go to
sleep a conservative Republican and wake up as a liberal Democrat.

At least you'll have that, and I can't say I'm sorry.

And maybe if you're really lucky, you may hold onto your closest
buddies like Abdurahman Alamoudi.


Senator Carl Levin is one of my secret heroes. He's a Democrat,
he's smart and he's a gentleman. I watched him endure hearing
after hearing at Fred Thompson's Campaign Finance Circus years
ago. Back in '97 I predicted Thompson was all but gone -- but he's
not, as we are now subjected to his ham-handed acting on the
otherwise excellent NBC crime drama "Law and Order" where he
now plays Manhattan District Attorney -- and still Norquist persists,
like an incurable disease on the Washington scene.

Years ago I watched Levin, still a Senator, take insult after insult
from "Hollywood Fred" Thompson who, despite his lame
protestations to the contrary, ran the most despicably partisan
"investigation" in history -- all the time weeping that no one "loved"
him.

All along, Thompson knew that Grover Norquist and former RNC
boss-of-bosses Haley Barbour had masterminded a conspiracy to
launder money for the Republican National Committee -- and did
nothing about it, and said nothing about it. To my mind, that makes
him a criminal accessory.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20021209Koop.html

[Rose Siding]

31. Keith's response

"I got chills" made me whoop when I saw it. He absolutely gave it credibility.

[KoKo]

32. I hope all DU'ers will read this post tonight and into the weekend...it's

too important...with all these links to let this all slide. If only to enlighten ourselves!

[KoKo]

33. Kick Again......want everyone on DU to read all this......those who care!

:kick:

[madfloridian]

34. Another kick for the late nighters.

:kick:

[Guaranteed]

35. Oh no.....

This is really, really bad....it's starting to look like maybe we do have real live terrorists in the White House....
I mean....I'm starting to wonder what really happened on 9/11.
SOMETHING is going on here. We need to find out what it is, and fast.
I'm not typically a conspiracy theorist, either. But, it looks as if the White House doesn't give two shits, at BEST, what terrorists do in this country. At worst, they're supporting them.