How Much You Wanna Bet Bush Wiretapped Kerry

[stepnw1f]

during the election? And if it gets proven, what may the penalty be?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. Seems to me he'd have to resign.

So similar to Nixon and Watergate.

Slime.

[tsuki]

2. That will always be an accusation until the list of who he spied on

is listed.

[LeftNYC]

3. Will we ever find out? n/t

[stepnw1f]

10. Yes... We Will

in time. I'm not as cynical.

[LuCifer]

4. The farm

BANK ON IT!

[JuniperLea]

5. Same as Watergate

I've been saying this since the beginning of the whole wiretap deal. You KNOW he spied on Kerry! Dean too! Just like Watergate only they used high tech electronic systems.

Bush IS a crook and should be impeached and imprisoned. What he did is far worse than what Nixon or Clinton did.

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Oh I'm sure

Nothing would surprise me. I'm sure he would. Did the whole Dean scream happen before or after the Iowa cacus dinner?

[karynnj]

29. After Dean came in 3rd or 4th in the Iowa caucus he was expected to win

[stop the bleeding]

6. nothing - Republican controlled congress - its laughable to think

anything will come from uncovering the many many lies of this administration.

Not trying to be a downer but just a little realistic.

[stepnw1f]

9. Oh No... just Speculation on the Should not Would

I still think that this should be publicly scrutinized to point out to the other side that Bush's actions are more damaging to our country than they could have imagined. The country is treading down a verrrry slippery slope.

Bush couldn't hold a candle to the likes of those that wrote our constitution. Therefore the idiot should be barred from getting anywhere close to it. He broke the law in stepping over it....

No terrorist attack should ever give anybody the right to do what B*sh did.

[patrice]

7. Wow! I hadn't thought of that possibility yet!

Since Kerry has almost assuredly received communications from foreign sources, he would be a likely target wouldn't he?

[EST]

12. No doubt that's where the

"France is rooting for a Kerry win" BS and the hinting about other conversations he had with various world leaders. They knew he knew and they were letting him know they knew. Kerry humped up and shut up.

[patrice]

19. Which would, of course, be necessary to protect whatever they

had been working on together (e.g. Apollo Alliance stuff).

[Dr Fate]

8. You Silly Dummies!!!- They are not just bugging Kerry!

Harry Reid, Pat Fitzgerald, the DNC, various media enemies, anti-Admin CIA & Pentagon officials, etc,etc,etc are ALL being bugged for strategy/blackmailing purposes.

[kaygore]

11. I agree; Kerry was their shill anyway

You'd have to pay someone a fortune to listen to Kerry's taped conversations. What a snooze!

[Dr Fate]

15. Kerry was not their shill. Kerry is a threat- they bugged his campaign...

...as well as other various campaigns and Americans.

I don't buy the "Kerry was in on it" B.S.

[stepnw1f]

16. I Was Waiting for this

...shallow remarks from those wanting to disrupt a thread.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

23. Typical attack post by the ill-informed.

[kaygore]

26. I worked on his campaign is four states

I didn't work for nearly four months but instead, at my own expense, worked either directly for his campaign or for ACT or another 526 in California, Arizona, Oregon, and finally Florida. In all my years of political activity, I have never seen a worse run campaign. I guess what summed up either the sheer incompetence or the willful incompetence was his trying to do a photo op wind sailing in the Columbia Gorge (thank goodness there was wind that day).

Then when Kerry refused to fight for his victory by challenging the election results (can't blame Gore when he did because he had gotten assurances from the Bush people that they would be bipartisan but after that promise was revealed to be an egregious lie and their true nature revealed, I felt that Kerry should have known better and NOT sold us all down the river.) Finally, when I found out that he had not spent all his money and could have funded the challenges...well, draw your own conclusions!

[MH1]

28. Suuure you did.

ETA: it's 527. And by law, working for ACT was NOT working for the campaign. And was it windsailing or windsurfing? And Brazile is a liar...

But then, you knew all that.

[blm]

35. Kerry is still in two lawsuits in Ohio. BTW, if Kerry's campaign was

so bad then why did BushInc have to suppress the votes, lie incessantly through their mediawhores, fund the Swiftliars, and rig voting machines to stay in power?

When you see the campaign through the eyes of BushInc's paid mediawhores you see what they want you to see....and repeat it ad nauseum.

[stepnw1f]

36. You Are Full Of It

There: I drew my own conclusion...

[LittleClarkie]

37. Gore and Kerry ended up with about the same amount in the end

including GELAC. I doubt it was enough to fully fund everything.

How much did you think the amount was? I keep seeing all different numbers.

So you're saying Dukakis was a stellar campaign compared to Kerry? Dole's was a better run campaign? Bush I ran a better campaign? Depending on how far your "years of experience" go back, then McGovern ran a better campaign?

Really?

GORE'S campaign was better run? Do tell.

Kerry had some pretty good momentum built up toward the end there, enough to scare the GOP some. Perhaps some things could have been done better, but some things were done quite well.

And he got easier to listen to as he got more pissed off. A pissed off Kerry is a wonder to behold.

[karynnj]

32. You should be ashamed of yourself

1)That Senate Democrats including our Presidential candidate should be bugged is disgusting and could obviously been used by the Republicans

2) Kerry has fought the RW as hard and for longer than almost anyone you could name. His values have been obvious and commendable since the 1970s. There is no one in public life less likely to be "a shrill" for Bush.

3) Kerry has likely lived a more fascinating life than any one posting here and from all accounts, he is witty, funny and charming on a personal level. The RW and MSM lies about both Teresa and John Kerry seem untrue to people who have met them.

[blm]

34. REAL history and policymaking DOES put ignorant people to sleep

I have noticed.

[seabeyond]

14. couldnt agree more dr fate. hence the reason it couldnt

go for a warrant. as they ask americans, ok bush does this to protect from terrorism.............who the hell say that is the illegal wiring. why in the world would we think bush tapping would be on a legitiment person

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. No doubt in my mind Kerry was bugged and wiretapped.

No doubt whatsoever. IF it's proven? Think RICHARD NIXON. His ass is grass.

[liberal N proud]

18. No doubt. There is much to be exposed about the election of 04

Break ins of campaign offices and other high crimes associated with the fraud of an election.

[AndyTiedye]

20. They Already Got Caught Bugging the Dems' Congressional Computer System

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. That's right! I forgot about that!!!

I wonder if Rockefeller looks at that incident differently now? It was Rockefeller's computer, right?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. That was just the tip of the domestic spying iceberg, wasn't it?

[stepnw1f]

27. That's Right!

We have a renegade Administration.

[AndyTiedye]

39. Link to Article on 2003 Senate Computer Breakin by Repubs

Another GOP Break-in vs. Dems
Reuters 2003-11-26 18:49:00.0

A top Senate Republican expressed "deep regret" Tuesday in announcing that an internal investigation of computer records found that one of his staffers had "improperly accessed" Democratic documents... (and) a former staffer "may also have been involved," but he declined to identify either person.

"I am mortified that this improper, unethical and simply unacceptable breach of confidential files may have occurred on my watch," the Utah Republican told a news conference. Hatch said the staffer who obtained access to the memos denied giving them to the news media, and it remained unclear how reporters got them.

The disclosure came a week after congressional law enforcement authorities began looking into what Democrats called an apparent computer theft of 14 staff memos critical of President Bush's embattled judicial nominees.
...
"It is with deep regret I must report today the interviews conducted to date have revealed that at least one current member of Judiciary Committee majority staff had improperly accessed at least some of the documents referenced in the media reports," Hatch said.
...

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61382,00.html?tw=wn_polihead_1

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. I have no doubts that this happened.

[Ksec]

25. Yep. Its not like bash all of a sudden found ethics

Its the same guy who lied to get a war started, OKed torture and cheated to win the election. Same leopard, same spots.

[Rex]

30. No doubt. I'm sure some of the people in the Kerry camp

are BFEE moles. There are no levels of deceit to low for Bush.

[blm]

38. I think BFEE moles were in EVERY Dem camp.

I think they were fostering some of the weird peripheral campaign moves.

[freesqueeze]

31. If Proven, The Penalty Will Only Be In Image/History

And even that will have its detractors. No amount of evidence will convince some of the goosesteppingest that this guy can do anything wrong. I think it's too late for deprogramming in many cases.

[Nicole]

33. I'm sure he did

He should be impeached.

[gulliver]

40. I think they "monitored" Kerry.

Whether they actually tapped the conversations or not, I'll bet conversations Kerry had with international leaders were tracked by the U.S. government under orders from Bush without any warrant. That's enough for impeachment right there.