Why is Bush so anxious to use the military here in the US?

[Miss Chybil]

(I just posted this in another thread, but I'm very anxious for an answer, so I'm posting it in its own thread.)

He established NORTHCOM. He wanted Congressional authority to use military force within the country. He wanted the governor of Louisiana to give up her authority in order for the military to take over in LA. He has threatened to use the military against us in case of a flu epidemic. It appears, even though he was not successful in obtaining the authorization, he is bound and determined to usurp our rights as American citizens, anyway. What is he doing and why?

[...of J.Temperance]

1. Can't you guess why Junior's so eager and anxious?

It's as plain as the nose on your face...

On Edit: Dammit spelling error.

[Miss Chybil]

2. I can't guess. If I could, I wouldn't have asked. nt

[...of J.Temperance]

15. Well the rest

Of the comments on your thread should tell you why Junior's so anxious to use the military on U.S soil in a domestic situation too :scared:

[Atman]

3. Precedent, presidential powers.

Once he's been authorized to let 'em loose, who is going to pull 'em out again? He'll have set the precedent that the president can call for troops on American soil for any reason he damned well pleases, regardless of the law or constitutional provisions. He's got to get it done quick, while he still can.

[DemInDistress]

4. Martial Law ,,,, this way the bush crime family could

suspend the elections ... their ultimate goal. Power forever,will the people like it? NO !! Don't you remember back in April/May or June ashcroft or someone else floated the idea of suspending the 2004 election if we were attacked again ? It was Wally O'Dell owner and creator of Deibold who promised to deliver all Ohio's electoral votes to bush so my best guess is the crime family allowed the 2004 elections to go forward.
Somethings amiss here what with 400 lbs of C-4 explosives coming up missing and 2 weeks ago 600 lbs.of weapons grade plutonium came up missing..h'mm..

[MadisonProgressive]

10. Do you have a link for the plutonium? I didn't hear that one!

Nevermind - I found it:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/consumerawareness/a/missingpluto.htm

Doesn't bode very well for us!

[Sydnie]

12. Damn, I missed that announcement too

Thanks for the link!

[thefool_wa]

14. WHOAAAAA!

C-4 and Plutonium! That can be used to make an implosion style nuclear weapon (a huge one) and they are the only part of building it you can't get off the internet.

Where did you read this, can you provide links to articles??

on edit: caught the plutonium link - it says this discrepancy happened in 1998, one can only hope that means it was literally a paperwork error and not something that has fallen into the hands of an enemy.

still would like a link on the C4.

also on edit: I have this creepy feeling that, if GW is forced out of office, he has some lone nut-job on stand by who is going to detonate a nuclear weapon inside the US so they can say "haha, we told you so. Guess you should have kept us in power." They let 9/11 happen so they could try and take permanent control of this country, it seems this would be right up their alley.

[DemInDistress]

17. try this..

Los Alamos Missing Plutonium for 150 Nuclear Bombs
The beleaguered Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) is unable to account for
765 kilograms of plutonium -- enough to make 150 nuclear weapons -- according ...
usgovinfo.about.com/od/ consumerawareness/a/missingpluto.htm -

truthout - Massive Cache of Explosives Missing in Iraq
C-4 or its main ingredients were used in the October 2000 bombing of the USS ...
on Missing Iraq Explosives, Massive Cache of Explosives Missing in Iraq ...
www.truthout.org/docs_04/102604Z.shtml - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

Massive Cache of Explosives Missing in Iraq
UN: Explosives Missing from Former Iraq Atomic Site By Louis Charbonneau ...
The missing explosives could potentially be used to detonate a nuclear weapon ...
www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_102604Z.shtml - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

ABC News: Federal Investigators Probe High-Tech Explosives Theft
The missing 400 pounds of explosives includes 150 pounds of what is known as C-4
plastic, or "sheet explosive," which can be shaped and molded and is often ...
abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1421579 - 23k - Dec 21, 2005

[thefool_wa]

19. Sweet, thanks.

[Miss Chybil]

21. Isn't it funny how they can spy on Americans, but they can't keep the

explosives under wraps? Another doesn't make sense moment. All these pieces are coming frighteningly together.

[SmokingJacket]

5. Democracy gets in the way of their power-grab.

In order to become as powerful as they want to be, they must subvert the will of the people. The military is the only way they have of keeping the people under wraps.

I'm unsure of what their END goal is... money, everlasting fame, or what. But it's pretty clear that they want absolute power -- even world domination? -- in the meantime. See PNAC.

[rox63]

6. To crush dissent, of course n/t

[mandomom]

7. It is the unmasking of dictatorial intentions masquerading as

legitimately won 1-party rule. Plain and simple. The republican neocons intend to run this nation with an adhoc rewriting of history and of our constitution. For many months now I have watched with increasing incredulity and fear. I do not recognize the language of this man named Bush who continues to call himself president. I do not recognize the voices of the majority party members or their following talking heads, except when I turn to the history books with details on the gradual buildup of the power of men like Mussolini and Hitler. I hate these comparisons and I do not say that Bush is murdering people let alone millions of people. I do say that he has declared himself above all of our laws and seems to see himself as the keeper of the constitution in exile. He directly and publicly challenged anyone to correct him by his recent pronouncements that he will continue to (for one) spy on Americans when he sees fit to do so. The challenge to date is far too muted for the import that it holds.

I believe there are now good grounds for all good Americans to be both afraid and brave in facing this assault on true American values. I believe all Constitutionally and statutorily valid actions should be endowed in our congress and where appropriate in our president. If Bush needs or wants addtional anti-terrorist powers he will get them on the basis of logical, honest, open arguments of law, not by spewing fear and dread across the nation, and by slashing through all checks and balances that are intended to inhibit such run-amok power. I also believe that the top secret information about the illegal spying program should have been exposed by the congress persons who learned of it firt hand at the time of its origins. They could have and should have found a way to divulge the information and been willing to battle back against the inevitable charges of violating national security; for in their silent acquiesence to the demands of the WH for continued secrecy, they have only further oiled a dangerous machine of military power and aristocratic wealth-gathering.

Write to your local editors now. Call you congress persons now; and ask them how dare they leave their offices for holidays when they know that Bush means to continue his abrogation of his duties to uphold our constitution and laws.

[Ezlivin]

8. Democracy is always a threat to the powers that be

Democracy appeals to the common man much as the thought of a worker revolution appealed to the proletariat.

American democracy in the 21st century is PR. True democracy slipped away from us years ago.

[mandomom]

9. Excellent and pithy comment.

[daleanime]

16. Accurate, honest...

and unfortunately true.

[thefool_wa]

18. And the only thing we have left it seems...

Is the 2nd Amendment. Exercise it now so we can utilize it when the time comes (and it is coming).

Its not there so we can hunt duck and shoot skeet. It was put there to provide us with the means to correct our government when it is obvious that they are no longer adhering to the tenents and provisions of our constitution.

Something WILL be done.

[JAbuchan08]

11. The rapture!

:tinfoilhat:

[Coastie for Truth]

13. A lot of us NGO Disaster responders

(Red Cross, Salvation Army, Ham Radio, etc.) felt that was why he kept us out of New Orleans, far away from the SuperDome, the Convention Center, Charity and Memorial Hospitals, etc.

The NGO Responders' Theory: He was setting up to ask Congress to repeal Posse Comitatus (the Coup D'Tat of 12/2000 wasn't enough - he wants to make it permanent).

[Orsino]

20. The powerful always want more power...

...and they have nothing better to do with their days than dream up ways to persuade you to give it up to them.

[OneBlueSky]

22. to establish the precedent . . .

and to accustom Americans to martial law . . . so that when things get so bad that he has to declare martial law, folks will be used to it and, he hopes, won't resist . . .

[Jara sang]

23. Because Bush is Adolf Hitler reincarnated.

[BuyingThyme]

24. Fascism.