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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:47 PM
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Goss in Iran? From German publication...
I used Google translator, so hope it still makes sense in English now:

Speculations over US impact against Iran

Do the USA plan a missile attack on goals in Iran? In secret discussions 2006 before, agencies spread ready Washington the allied ones on appropriate air raids today. Particularly in the Nato-country Turkey upon an impact against Iranian atomic plants one speculates.

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Istanbul/Berlin - which burst to message like a bomb into the besinnliche Vorweihnachtsstimmung: Washington ready closest allied ones on air raids against Iran forwards. The common today the German telegram service in a text of the former "FAZ" editor and secret service expert Udo Ulfkotte - nevertheless substantial doubts about it are quite justified.

As source the not undisputed journalist Ulfkotte indicated "western safety circuits", without becoming however specific. According to his data CIA boss Porter is poured on Monday previous week in the Turkish capital Ankara Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to have asked to support the air raids on Iranian nuclear and military plants particularly with the supportless exchange of secretofficial information. After present conditions the attacks are planned for 2006.

In the past weeks also the governments in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman and Pakistan in the beginning were informed about the military plans, so strip packing further. The air raids were not called as "possible option" designation, a concrete time however.

CIA boss poured is to Turkish security authorities now in Ankara also three dossiers to have transferred, by which one proves allegedly that Teheran with the terrorist organization aluminium-Qaida cooperates. A further dossier of references the conditions of the Iranian atomic armament, it was said. According to data from German safety circuits has poured in Ankara assured to inform the Turkish government few hours before the possible air raid and Turkey already now "green light" given to attack on that day also camps of the separatist Kurdish worker's party in Iranian area - a strange "green light" however, because the Kurdish worker's party in Iran does not maintain Militaerbasen, but particularly in the north Iraq operates.

Original: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,392136,00.html

Translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=/language_tools&u=http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,392136,00.html
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:57 PM
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1. Oh shit.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:06 PM
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3. Scheiße
(shit in German?)

Let it not be so.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 12:53 AM
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14. Ach du lieber! Kann daß wirklich sein?
OMG! Can this really be? :eyes:

Is America's fascist dictatorship planning another assault on a Middle Eastern Country with Oil? Will the World sit by and watch? Will anyone protest? Will anyone stop them?

Unreal....This is insane...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:03 PM
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2. Goss talks Turkey...
More, from the good folks at GlobalizationResearch.ca...



Head of CIA Tells Turks to Prepare for Attack on Iran

by Kurt Nimmo
December 21, 2005
kurtnimmo.com

You’d think the fact Porter Goss, head broom sweeper at the CIA, recently told the Turkish government the United States plans to attack Iran and Syria would be headline splashing news in the New York Times and the Washington Post. But although the news was carried in the Turkish press, it elicited hardly a murmur here in America, with the exception of United Press International and Reuters. As for the latter, only Goss’ meeting with Turkish officials on the “separatist terrorist organization” known as the Kurdistan Workers Party was mentioned and nothing about the impending attack, while the UPI mentioned it in the fourth paragraph, stating: “Goss said that Iran sees Turkey as an enemy and will ‘export its regime,’ warning Ankara to be ready for a possible U.S. aerial operation against Iran and Syria.”

PHX News was more specific and noted the lack of attention the story: “In an overlooked story, the Turkish press reported last week that CIA Director Porter Goss went to Ankara recently and informed the Turkish government that Iran already has nuclear weapons and they should be ready for ‘a possible US air operation against Iran and Syria.’” The Turkish Press added more details:

During his recent visit to Ankara, CIA Director Porter Goss reportedly brought three dossiers on Iran to Ankara. Goss is said to have asked for Turkey’s support for Washington’s policy against Iran’s nuclear activities, charging that Tehran had supported terrorism and taken part in activities against Turkey. Goss also asked Ankara to be ready for a possible US air operation against Iran and Syria. Goss, who came to Ankara just after FBI Director Robert Mueller’s visit, brought up Iran’s alleged attempts to develop nuclear weapons. It was said that Goss first told Ankara that Iran has nuclear weapons and this situation was creating a huge threat for both Turkey and other states in the region. Diplomatic sources say that Washington wants Turkey to coordinate with its Iran policies. The second dossier is about Iran’s stance on terrorism. The CIA argued that Iran was supporting terrorism, the PKK and al-Qaeda.

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20051221&articleId=1578



Operation 40's expanded a bit in the neocon era.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:35 PM
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5. re:Operation 40 & Goss, and Bary Seal
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:05 PM
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11. Porter's a killer turd.
An old broom sweeps clean, in a manner of speaking...



Fabian Escalante, a former Cuban security chief, gives a good outline of his old foes in an interview withAxisOfLogic.com May 22 2005:

"Operation 40. . . . specialists who are already trained, have gone through the school, have already participated in operations against Cuba...I refer to the group of Felix Rodriguez Mendigutia, Luis Posada Carriles, Orlando Bosch, ...

"And there was the team that brought together all of the North Americans: David Morales; David Phillips; Howard Hunt; Willian Harvey; Frank Sturgis; Gerry Hemming; John Rosselli, who was second head of the Chicago mafia and at that time in '62; Porter Goss, the current head of the CIA, who is in the JM/WAVE as a subordinate of Phillips and Morales."

"Operation 40 is the grandmother and great-grandmother of all of the operations that are formed later," continues Escalante.

(...)

"The first news that we have of Operation 40 is a statement made by a mercenary of the Bay of Pigs who was the chief of military intelligence of the invading brigade and whose name was Jose Raul de Varona Gonzalez," says Escalante.

"In his statement this man said the following: in the month of March, 1961, around the seventh, Mr. Vicente Leon arrived at the base in Guatemala at the head of some 53 men saying that he had been sent by the office of Mr. Joaquin Sanjenis, Chief of Civilian Intelligence, with a mission he said was called Operation 40. It was a special group that didn't have anything to do with the brigade and which would go in the rearguard occupying towns and cities. His prime mission was to take over the files of intelligence agencies, public buildings, banks, industries, and capture the heads and leaders in all of the cities and interrogate them. Interrogate them in his own wayÂ".

The individuals who comprised Operation 40 had been selected by Sangenis in Miami and taken to a nearby farm "where they took some courses and were subjected to a lie detector."

CONTINUED...

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/05-government/B-HSO-FEMA/2005/05B-12-01-05-national-clandestine-service.html





Religion, in a way.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:35 PM
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6. Merry Christmas.....
They must really feel they have the system rigged airtight, because they sure are going way out on the limb to think that the clear majority of sane Americans will vote every Republican out of office. There is no justication or mandate from the American people to expand the Bush GWOT past its mess in Iraq.

85% of 130,000 polled on MSNBC says this administration's actions TO DATE warrant an impeachment inquiry....any belligerent action against other countries in the ME will pretty much get the powers-that-be to remove them.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:17 PM
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12. These nutjobs are making history.
We're supposed to be analyzing it.

At least, that's how their script goes.

We can gummy up the works with the Truth about these warmongers.



WILKES FOUNDATION SUSPENDED IN CALIFORNIA

"K STREET ON THE TIGRIS" MEETS THE "POWAY MAFIA"


*World Exclusive*
Dec 16 2005--Venice,FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker

The Wilkes Foundation, a charity run by embattled San Diego lobbyist and defense contractor Brent Wilkes, was suspended last month by the California Secretary of State for failure to submit financial statements, the MadCowMorningNews has learned. 

The suspension of the Wilkes Foundation  appears to have been anything but routine.

A spokesman in the California Secretary of State’s Office stated that the last financial statement the charity filed was over three years ago, in November of 2002.

Asked whether a three-year grace period was the state norm regarding financial filings, the spokesman politely demurred. 

News that the Wilkes Foundation has been concealing their financial records from authorities comes hard on the heels of last week’s shocking report (in the Austin-Statesman) that another Republican lobbyist-run charity, Jack Abramoff’s Capital Athletic Foundation, lied to the IRS about giving more than $330,000 in grants to charities which never received the money.

CONTINUED...

http://www.madcowprod.com/index.html



Most important:

Peace and joy to you and yours!



Merry Christmas, Not-so-Old and Showing the Way!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:56 AM
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16. Happy Holidays to you and yours Octafish!
Looking forward to 2006 as the year America finally settled a lot of unfinished business.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:39 PM
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7. Holy crap: ‘a possible US air operation against Iran and Syria.’
:scared: Events are happening so quickly now. It is if the neo-cons are desperately trying to complete their evil plans prior to Bu$h being impeached. :(
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:32 PM
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13. Things are coming to a head.
Fortunately, it's soft.





Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President

By Neil Mackay
Sunday Herald (London)

A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001.

The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: 'The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.'

The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'.

This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.

The report describes American armed forces abroad as 'the cavalry on the new American frontier'. The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document written by Wolfowitz and Libby that said the US must 'discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role'.

CONTINUED...

http://www.sundayherald.com/27735



Let's sink those PNAC bastards:

http://www.pnac.info/

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:11 PM
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4. Kick. Please recommend. n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:39 PM
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8. Are they power crazed enough to do this.
YES THEY ARE.

Like all totalitarian regimes they could give a flying f what anyone else thinks or believes.

We are on the road to madness.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 04:01 PM
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9. Cheney and Rumsfeld have both recently been in the region.
This does not bode well. It seems as if they are getting their ducks in a row for the next aggressive, illegal act.

How will we stop them?

We are at the point, IMHO, for federal marshals to step in. There is not much time left to stop this insanity.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 04:33 PM
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10. so troops Rumsfeld says coming back from Iraq
might be going to Iran?
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:15 AM
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15. As you might now, Iran recently switched to the oil bourse.
This means that they are selling their oil for the euro, instead of the dollar, which could impact our economy. This fact should shed some light on the timing of the admins trip to the middle east, and possible attacks on Iran.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:41 AM
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17. The predictions made by
the neocons before the Iraqi invasion was that it would lead to a popular, nonviolent uprising in Iran. They were convinced that putting Ahmad Chalabi in as the head of a "democratic" Iraq would create something akin to the Polish experience, as Chalabi had forces in "solidarity" with him. Right. Instead, the Iraqi "government" (and future) will actually be far more influenced by Iran than Iran's by Iraq. Hence, the extreme right-wing of another country, which is reputed to hold great influence over the neoconservatives in Washington, is advocating a reckless course in Iran.

I would strongly urge DUers to read a magazine "Washington Report (on Middle East Affairs)." It is published "by the American Educational Trust (AET), a non-profit foundation incorporated in Washington, DC by retired U.S. foreign service officers to provide the American public with balanced and accurate information concerning U.S. relations with Middle Eastern states."

The magazine focuses on issues from the Plame scandal and the neocon/AIPAC spy scandal, to the war in Iraq, to the Kashmir earthquake. This month's issue includes postcards to send to your elected representatives in Washington, urging action on the Plame scandal. These can be downloaded from their website, too. See:

www.wrmea.com
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:46 AM
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18. If we bomb Iran, North Korea will
have no options other than attack or surrender.

If we do bomb Iran will they retaliate by shutting down the Straits of Hormuz?
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