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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:58 AM
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Poll question: Will Bush Be Impeached?
It's clear now he is TECHNICALLY IMPEACHABLE. THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE NOW.

But will Congress do it. I suspect yes because it's going to be VERY difficult for the repubs to stand by him on this one.

What do you think will happen?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:00 AM
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1. the problem is, now it becomes IMPERATIVE for them to steal the election
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 10:00 AM by unblock
they HAVE to keep the house in 2006. if they did any shenanigans in previous elections, you can bet your bottom dollar that they'll do it when an impeachment is in the offing.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:09 AM
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4. That Diebold's shenanigans are unraveling
means it is more likely that something much, much more terrifying will occur to stampede the sheep to the polls to vote GOP in 2006.

That's the only option I see that they have.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:14 AM
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6. I already bet my bottom dollar that they'll use the same . . .
Election-stealing techniques they've been perfecting over the last several cycles in 2006, and 2008.

Why would they give them up? It's not just Black Box Voting (although that's the most surgical way to steal an election). It's the reinsitution of "poll taxes" in Georgia, and intimidation in Ohio, and misallocation of machines based on how a precinct is likely to vote, and the fact that 'Lican secretaries of state all over the country have jiggered the system.

We be screwed, unless we can command majorities too overwhelming to jigger, or which cause their tricks to be revealed so even the most skeptical voters among us can no longer deny the truth.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:02 AM
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2. Resign
I think in order to avoid the Repug party losing any MORE power after the 06 election, he will resign, then be pardoned, just like Nixon. OR, there will be another massive "terist" attack and maybe Marshall Law will be imposed to stop impeachment hearings and hold on to power. Its scary to think of what these crimnals are capable of.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:06 AM
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3. The hallmark of their motivation has always been
"Do it. They can't stop us. Nobody can stop us from doing anything we want to do."

I am afraid that's probably an accurate assessment. The Democrats are only now assembling the will; most of the Republicans will never go along no matter what.

They have always counted on the somnabulance of the media and the general electorate, and that confidence is not misplaced.

I voted neither, by the way.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:09 AM
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5. Sorry, folks . . . He's gonna get away with this one too
No way will the party let this go forward. Expect to hear the words "shrill," "hysterical," and "unbalanced," issuing from the echo chamber over the next few weeks. Also realize that the country is going to slow down to a crawl over the holidays and the iron won't be very hot when everyone comes back to work in January.

'Licans will start a concerted effort to turn this into a stick to beat dems with, as in "They'd risk your very lives, Mr. and Mrs. America, just to score political points," and "They hate this president so much they'd risk America itself if they thought they could bring him down," and ". . . completely irresponsible, attacking the commander-in-chief in wartime."

Chimpie's presidency may be on the rocks (which is both a good thing and a bad thing), but he's not going to get impeached.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:20 AM
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8. Anyone know a good Psychic?
I have heard more than once, that whoever would be President in 2004, would not stay the full term. I haven't heard any predictions lately.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:18 AM
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7. Impeachment proceedings are the quickest way to
boost *'s poll numbers back over 50%.

The House will NEVER, EVER do it (OK, I'll grant that there is a marginal possibility of it happening if we take it back in 2006).

Our best efforts are to continue to agitate this -- as with DeLay, Abramoff, and Fitzgerald -- and tar every Republican from your local courthouse all the way on up with the "culture of corruption" meme.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:28 AM
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10. Yes and no . . .
Clinton got a bump (actually a long-term rise) because Americans recognized the impeachment imbroglio was completely ilegitimate, based on hypocritical pandering by guys who probably regularly have sex with summer squash in the middle of DuPont Circle. But Bush (and his administration) are apparently guilty of a serious crime.

I don't think the sympathy vote is out there for Bushie.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:24 AM
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9. I don't think he will resign or be impeached.
But I sure do hope I'm wrong.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:31 AM
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11. House Republicans are too partisan and too arrogant to impeach a Repub
for abuse of power. Besides, they are as dirty as Bush and Cheney.
Bush's actions are impeachable, but even "moderate" House Republicans
are trying to spin the wiretap scandal in the administration's favor.
I don't see an impeachment coming from this House.

Even if the House impeaches Bush in the next Congress (an uphill fight at best),
Bush can play the necessity defense, claim to have the national interest at heart,
and win over enough Senators for an acquittal.

Bush will never resign.
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HamstersFromHell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:53 AM
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12. There may be a tipping point...
when the current GOP critters up for reelection in 2006 realize that * is a severe political liability. What it'll take to push it over the top is not only *'s numbers tanking in polls, but also the numbers of anyone associated as being connected to *. Once they see those, the handwriting's on the wall, and they'll bail on him to save their own political skins. We've started to see a bit of this already...a few souls in the GOP who actually go public in opposition to the boy king.


Think of the recent * bullshit like this:

* asks "mom" for a BB Gun for his Birthday and mom told him no.

* asked mom again for a BB Gun for Christmas and mom told him no.

Now mom get a phone call from the next door neighbor, who's pissed. Seems * shoplifted a BB Gun and just got caught shooting the windows out of the neighbor's car. When confronted, little * tells the neighbor that "mom said it was ok".

Now, the question is will "mom" do the right thing and turn the arrogant little shit over her knee for that well-deserved ass-whipping? Or will mom lose her kids because the system decided mom's not a good parent for supporing his criminal activity?



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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:12 AM
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13. Would it matter?
Would the NSA still exist?

What changed after Nixon left? Nothing. We've gotten a corporate government led by presidents Reagan, CIA, DLC, and W.

Bush isn't the problem. Hell, the neocons aren't even really the problem. We've been on an imperial path long before they showed up. They just don't really care if anybody knows it.

Go ahead, lets have a nation-wide fiesta impeaching Bush, and Cheney, and Hastert, and Stevenson, and whoever else would fall into the presidential line of succession, but as long as the structures of power stay intact(which they will), nothing fundamental is going to change.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:20 AM
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14. Hell Yes it Matters!
If we don't stand up and say NO, YOU CAN'T SPY ON US, then we are GIVING UP OUR DEMOCRACY.

At a minimum, the people have to stand up for and defend the principles they believe in.
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