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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:47 AM
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Texas judge grants Pope immunity in sexual abuse cover-up lawsuit.


http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051222163709990016&ncid=NWS0010000000001

A document has tied the current Pope into a cover-up of the sexual abuse of three boys in Texas. Yet, a Texas judge says he's beyond the reach of the law because he's a foreign head of state.

Clinton did not receive immunity in a lawsuit because he wasn't a foreign head of state.

On the other hand, Saddam Hussein, the head of state of a country that DID NOTHING TO US, is now on trial for his life.

Does anyone have an explanation for these seeming discrepancies?


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:49 AM
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1. Well, isn't that special?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:51 AM
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2. So they like to fuck kids in Texas, huh?
Apparently.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:55 AM
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3. ah, but saddam is not on trial in a u.s. court
he's on trial in an iraqi court set up by the u.s.

see the difference? ;)
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:57 AM
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4. Well, it's obviously bullshit
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 09:58 AM by Orrex
Even if Benedict can't be tried per se, he could still be tried in absentia if the implication against him is sound.

But consider:

Clinton was tried as a US citizen for allegedly violating US law. Since Presidents 1 through 42 were not above the law, he was not eligibile for immunity.

Hussein is on trial not for molesting Texas boys but for torturing and murdering Iraqi citizens, so he's (nominally) not being subjected to US law.

Of course, zealots in the "Saddam-equals-bin-Laden" camp would probably argue that Hussein is not a legitimate head of state and therefore he enjoys no immunity.

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:18 AM
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5. people are removed as defendants in civil lawsuits all the time

There are suits all the time against people in federal government offices and departments in which B*sh and before him Clinton are named and then removed.

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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:34 AM
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6. When did this coverup occur?
It wouldn't be fair to Pope Benedict XVI if he were to stand trial for coverups that took place before he was crowned Pope. That would have been on JP2's lap.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 01:26 PM
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9. Read the article in the original post. The document was written by
the current pope, not John Paul II.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:22 PM
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7. Poll: Should the Pope be immune from a trial alleging sex-abuse...
Should the Pope be immune from a trial alleging sex-abuse and a subsequent cover-up?
No 64%
Yes 28%
Unsure 8%
Total Votes: 30,208


I'll post in a seperate thread.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:33 PM
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8. You can't sue heads of state. There's no point in even listing them.
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