Does anyone know exactly what it takes to get a FISA warrant?

[napi21]

Last night I heard Victoria Teonsing say that Shrub can't get a warrant on all these taps because each request is over 500 pages long and requires all kind of different info.

This doesn't make sense to me at all, but I don't know how to find out the answer.

[Maddy McCall]

1. I think a FISA warrant can be obtained over the phone. I may be wrong.

I think I read that FISA warrants are easy to obtain, and can even be issued over the phone.

[Kagemusha]

2. It takes a showing of probable cause.

As for 500 pages long, well, you can get away with saying that stuff when secrecy rules bar those involved in the process from saying much, now can you?

[ThomWV]

3. Know How To Fill Out A 500-Page Application?

You put 5 young lawyers on it for 2 days and threaten to fire them if they don't get it done. Then you save the file for duplication the next time you need a warrent.

Look at the fucking numbers. They went to the court 2,000 times and were only denied 5 times. So how hard could it be?

[ThomWV]

5. Just A Note:

If roughly 2,000 warrents were issued since 9/01 it comes out to 500 per year. That's about one and a half warrents issued per day on average but there were a few holidays in there so lets say that two were done ever working day since 9/11. Two per day. Once again. How hard could it be?

[kikiek]

7. Actually it was 1758 in 2004 and none were denied. I agree it can't

be that much work. They wouldn't get so many through. http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/fisa/

[Webster Green]

4. She is a liar....

I don't have any info on how many pages in a FISA request, but I would venture that it isn't anywhere close to 500.

I do know that she just blows stuff out of her ass to defend the chimp.

[rpgamerd00d]

6. It takes Honesty. Which, of course, rules out Shrub

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. A ham sandwich?

No...that's a Grand Jury indictment. :freak:


The real answer: virtually nothing.

[catnhatnh]

9. Yes....A grand jury WILL indict a ham sandwich...

...but the actual ham sandwich HAS to be named in the procedure.....

[librechik]

10. you need a name and a purported reason to listen in

one "unnamed official" says the Bushies "couldn't just make up a reason" so he guessed they started going without warrants ever.

so the question remains, who and why?

History is a great teacher. We know JEHoover and Nixon both tapped their political enemies illegally.

Is Shrubbie any less of a macho man?

After all, he's doing the right thing by breaking the law and ignoring the constitution. He's just a brave and courageous hero to do that and stand up for the country that way.


:sarcasm:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

11. Bush would say, "Following the law is hard work" .

Too hard for him, apparently. I'm starting to agree a little bit with David Sirotta on the Huffington Post who says that their latest excuse boils down to "we were too lazy to follow the law."

I say a little bit, because I think the real reason is that what they were doing would not stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny by anyone outside of the cabal.

[caffefwee]

12. The moderate Repubs and libertarians could help

Take a look at this --

http://hammeroftruth.com/2005/12/24/a-libertarian-paleoconservative-progressive-and-liberal-reason-to-impeach-bush/

A Libertarian, Paleoconservative, Progressive and Liberal Reason to Impeach Bush

I was going to write yet another in a long series of rants on the Patriot Act tonight until I connected two bits of recent news together. Obviously, we carry a lot of Patriot Act news at HoT, but there may no longer be a point to any continuance of the effort.

Libertarians, paleoconservatives, progressives and liberals alike are likely to be wasting their time fighting the Patriot Act considering the recent relevations that Bush blatantly acted outside of the Constitution (and even the questionable FISA) with respect to civil liberties issues.

If Bush is above the law, what is the reason for having law in the first place? Is there any point to be made about how the law actually reads if it is disregarded anyway? Following GOP calls for impeachment over a blowjob and a cum-stained blue dress, I’ve been slow to jump on board this bandwagon, but perhaps it is now time for a serious call for impeachment. For a variety of reasons, many have called for impeachment before. Others have hesitated a bit. Perhaps now we can all work together on this unified line-of-attack.

[Triana]

13. He can't get a FISA warrant for the WHOLE COUNTRY...

...cause that's who he's spying on - and that's the problem.