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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:41 AM
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Seattle P-I new online poll on Chimpeachment (with editorial)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/253131_tracked.asp?dpfrom=thead

Government Spying: Don't tread on us
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD

The revelations of government spying pose serious questions not just for the Bush administration but also for Congress, the courts and the American public.

The telecommunications monitoring is ripping huge new holes in the administration's credibility. Americans don't know much yet but there is cause for deep concern about President Bush's adherence to the law and the Constitution.

... SEATTLEPI.COM POLL
Should the U.S. House of Representatives begin an impeachment investigation of President Bush for domestic spying?
( ) Yes
( ) Yes, but it won't
( ) No
( ) No, what he did is perfectly proper
( ) We need more information first
( ) Other or don't care
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:43 AM
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1. Done.and kicked
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:43 AM
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2. What a great town, Seattle
:)
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:45 AM
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3. Done and kick!
:kick:
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:45 AM
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4. over 84% think he should be impeached...
52% say yes, - 32% say yes, but they won't do it.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:48 AM
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5. Total Votes: 55 - 54% yes
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:50 AM
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6. Notice The Article Says - Vice President Dick Cheney Says Critics Could...
face political consequences. Is he shooting a warning shot across the bow of the critics - threatening them that the BFEE will retaliate should they pursue the spying issue.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:56 AM
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8. He has been since the story broke, and so are his surrogates.
Hey, Dick, thyself upon thyself.

lol
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:03 AM
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23. ROFL!
Man it's dangerous to eat or drink and read DU.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:51 AM
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7. Done
Should the U.S. House of Representatives begin an impeachment investigation of President Bush for domestic spying?
56.7%
Yes 30.0%
Yes, but it won't
1.7%
No 6.7%
No, what he did is perfectly proper
5.0%
We need more information first 0.0%
Other or don't care
Total Votes: 60
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 01:31 AM
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9. . nm
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:06 AM
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10. Done. Yes but it won't. n/t
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:14 AM
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11. We need more information first???
Who are these people, anyway? * already ADMITTED to the crime in public, blatantly, and with a smirk on his face! And he said he'll do it again! He took an oath to defend the Constitution, and then turned around and violated the Fourth Amendment. What part of this don't they understand??? There IS no debate here, people! Impeach him, already! Case closed!
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:24 AM
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12. Done
60.0% - Yes

31.7% - Yes, but it won't

2.2% - No

3.3% - No, what he did is perfectly proper

2.8% - We need more information first

0.0% - Other or don't care

Total Votes: 180
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:36 AM
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13. Done: We need some activism on this......
On January 7, 2006 at First United Methodist Church in Tacoma there will be a town hall meeting with Congressman Adam Smith about the Iraq War. Following that there will be workshops and discussions about the War, the Patriot Act and Domestic Spying and Impeachment. All are invited. We need to really step up the heat on this. Call for impeachment every day. Send letters to the editor, call your representatives and most of all campaign for candidates (House of Reps) who will pledge to vote for impeachment!!!!!!!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:09 AM
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14. enod Y-61.7
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:59 AM
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15. Kick
Should the U.S. House of Representatives begin an impeachment investigation of President Bush for domestic spying?

61.0% Yes

30.3% Yes, but it won't

1.4% No

4.9% No, what he did is perfectly proper

2.4% We need more information first

0.0% Other or don't care

Total Votes: 287
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:21 AM
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16. YES at 90%, when both YES Options are tallied
Yes 60.8%

Yes, but it won't 30.2%

No 1.3%

No, what he did is perfectly proper 5.0%

We need more information first 2.7%

Other or don't care 0.0%

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:29 AM
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17. Hmm - now reads about 91 percent YES
The people want this BushCo bum out.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:53 AM
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18. done
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:02 AM
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19. Done and kick
Should the U.S. House of Representatives begin an impeachment investigation of President Bush for domestic spying?
59.9%
Yes 31.0%
Yes, but it won't
1.6%
No 5.3%
No, what he did is perfectly proper
2.1%
We need more information first 0.0%
Other or don't care
Total Votes: 374
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:35 AM
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20. 61.4 unqualified yes
61.4%
Yes
30.1%
Yes, but it won't
1.4%
No
5.2%
No, what he did is perfectly proper
1.9%
We need more information first
0.0%
Other or don't care
Total Votes: 422
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:52 AM
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21. Another Benefit - See the slapdown for the Bush Apologist BigR
Posted by Mephisto at 12/22/05 6:08 p.m.

Sorry BigR

TOTAL FABRICATION.....What GW did was TOTALLY different...

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/21/8157/6595

CLINTON DID NOT ORDER WARRANTLESS SEARCHES OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
Here's what Clinton signed:

Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) <50 U.S.C. 1822(a)> of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.

You don't have to be a lawyer to understand that Clinton allowed warrantless searches if and only if the AG followed section 302(a)(1). What does section 1822(a) require?

the "physical search is solely directed at premises, information, material, or property used exclusively by, or under the open and exclusive control of, a foreign power or powers." Translation: You can't search American citizens.

and there is "no substantial likelihood that the physical search will involve the premises, information, material, or property of a United States person." Translation: You can't search American citizens.

Moreover, Clinton's warrant waiver consistent with FISA refers only to physical searches. "Physical searches," as defined by 1821(5), exclude electronic surveillance.

CARTER DID NOT AUTHORIZE WARRANTLESS SEARCHES OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
And now, Carter's turn:

1-101. Pursuant to Section 102(a)(1) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(a)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.

Here, Carter refers to "electronic surveillance," rather than "physical searches" like Clinton. But again, Carter limits the warrantless surveillance to the requirements of Section 1802(a). That section requires:

the electronic surveillance is solely directed at communications exclusively between or among foreign powers. Translation: You can't spy on American citizens. There is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party. Translation: You can't spy on American citizens.

Try again.....

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:00 AM
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22. 60% yes, 31% yes but it won't ....... 467 votes
I voted "yes, but it won't," because I'm assuming the Seattle PI is referring to the current House of Bootlickers.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:05 AM
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24. Done.
Should the U.S. House of Representatives begin an impeachment investigation of President Bush for domestic spying?
60.3%

Yes 30.8%

Yes, but it won't
1.3%

No 5.9%

No, what he did is perfectly proper
1.7%

We need more information first 0.0%

Other or don't care

Total Votes: 471


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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:43 AM
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25. done
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:45 AM
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26. It's being FREEPED!!!! Yes=36.9, no-33.5
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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:56 AM
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27. Big time!!
Couldn't believe my eyes. Total votes now at 933 with Yes dropping and No-It's perfectly proper rising rapidly. Never seen anything this obvious. Aside from the fraud factor, it's no wonder these creeps manage to win elections, etc.; they are really organized/fast/committed. Very scary!
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:51 PM
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28. Done;
Should the U.S. House of Representatives begin an impeachment investigation of President Bush for domestic spying?
39.4%
Yes 15.5%
Yes, but it won't
7.5%
No 36.7%
No, what he did is perfectly proper
0.9%
We need more information first 0.0%
Other or don't care
Total Votes: 1775

Majority say yes.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 07:42 AM
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29. Looks pretty good now:
46.3%
Yes

21.1%
Yes, but it won't

5.5%
No

24.4%
No, what he did is perfectly proper

2.6%
We need more information first

0.1%
Other or don't care
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