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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:00 PM
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Doobie Brother now a secret weapon on terror
I never liked the Doobie Brothers, but this is plain weird:
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Dec. 15: NBC's Jamie Gangel reports on Doobie Brothers guitarist Jeff Baxter, who is now one of the country’s leading counterterrorism experts.

Guitarist Jeff Baxter is a founding member of Steely Dan and a member of the Doobie Brothers. The 56-year-old Baxter has eight platinum albums and two Grammys, but he likes to call himself a hippie rock guitarist with top secret clearances. Now, believe it or not, he's one of the top counterterrorism experts in the United States. “Today” national correspondent Jamie Gangel caught up with Baxter in between top-secret meetings in our nation’s capitol.

One of rock and roll's top guitarists, Jeff Baxter, is best known for his years with Steely Dan and then the Doobie Brothers. He looked the part, lived the part and even had a rocker nickname — “Skunk.”

But it turns out “Skunk” was also interested in something other than music.

Jamie Gangel: If someone had told you when you were making all those hit songs that some day you would end up a defense expert with every clearance in the world, you would have said?

Jeff Baxter: I would have said, "You're out of your mind."
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10480407/

:wtf:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:03 PM
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1. Wow, this almost gives credibility, in a strange way, to Chuck Barris
... being a CIA op. Who'da thunk ?


:shrug:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:05 PM
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2. 9-11 changed everything, ya know?
I guess the credibility part was really hard amongst my friends in the music business. Because prior to 9/11, many of them just thought I was nuts. After 9/11, that all changed.


yawn.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:05 PM
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3. This is kind of old news. The guy's pretty right wing.
He spent time teaching Lee Atwater the guitar.

I doubt he is anywhere near as competant as advertised. If he were a plumber who taught himself weapons technology, he would have no following.

I must admit that I think highly of him as a guitarist though. He is, nonetheless, a piece of shit.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:06 PM
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4. No wonder we are losing the 'war on terra'
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:08 PM
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5. That reads like an ABC after school special movie
"The kid who invented missile defense"
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:10 PM
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6. LOL! SKUNK was selling the same line of BULLSHIT 20 years ago when I knew
the idiot.

And some moron FELL for it? It's no different than when ELVIS pretended he was in the CIA....

Aw, poor skunk FINALLY got someone to believe him! How CUTE is that?
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:20 PM
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9. It's a hoot, ain't it? It was funny 20 years ago, now its just sad...
When I first read some of that BS long ago, I was like, "THAT Jeff Baxter? Skunk? Well, they did warn about the brown acid..."

Given the stunning success of our missile defense systems, ya think 'ol Skunk is just trying to bring 'em down from the inside?

mikey_the_rat
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:23 PM
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11. Seriously, I wish I was kidding, Skunk hit on me at the China Club telling
me that he was with the CIA.

I wish, oh heavens I wish I was kidding... This was back in the mid-late 80's when the China Club mondey night all star jam was THE place to be that no one but the rock stars knew about.

Skunk was all draped up over the bar every Monday HOPING his lame ass line would work on some stupid, desperate, drunk chick.

It never did.

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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:39 PM
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14. Very interesting Skunkformation
I have never liked that creep
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:36 PM
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17. I Was Next to Him at a Nightclub 10 Years Ago
and he was bragging to some guy about all these drug (mostly coke) busts he help set up.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:12 PM
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7. I firmly believe that if there were more doobies in the world
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 02:12 PM by carolinalady
terrorism would not be a problem--hehehehhe.
:smoke:

ed:sp
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:30 PM
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16. I agree.
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 03:30 PM by in_cog_ni_to
:smoke::hippie:
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:14 PM
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8. What a fool believes
he sees.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:21 PM
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10. This Just In...
...Boy George found undercover at Elton John estate.

Developing...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:29 PM
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12. "You ain't seen nothin' yet" ba,ba,ba,baby you just ain;t seen nothin' yet
One of my favorite groups "back in the day" ;) This is kind of weird though. Who woulda thunk it?:crazy:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:34 PM
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13. The Straight Dope: Was Chuck Barris a hit man for the CIA?
Dear Cecil:

Has anyone ever bothered to seriously check the claims of TV producer Chuck Barris in his book Confessions of a Dangerous Mind to see if he's a fraud or not? Also, could you personally investigate his claims? (I think he's a fraud, but I don't have the time to investigate myself.) --Russell, Sacramento, CA

Cecil replies:

Ah, right, Chuck Barris. Barris is the showbiz entrepreneur who created The Dating Game, The Newlywed Game, and The Gong Show (the last of which he hosted), hits in the late 1960s and '70s that were thought to represent the absolute low in schlock TV, at least until everybody got a load of Temptation Island. In 1982 he published an "unauthorized autobiography," Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, which has recently been given a new lease on life as a movie. Central to the book is the claim that "Chuckie baby" (as Gong Show fans liked to call Barris), in addition to being a busy executive responsible at one point for 27 half hours of network TV a week, was a decorated CIA assassin. Barris writes that after chaperoning a winning couple from The Dating Game on their dream date in some foreign capital, he'd slip away, blow somebody's brains out, and then head back to Los Angeles to contend with those A-holes at the network.

And you want to know if maybe he's making some of this up. You want to know, to be precise, if I think Chuck Barris is a fraud for claiming, inter alia (I have always wanted to write inter alia), that his nom de guerre--the name he used to order airline tickets--was Sunny Sixkiller; that in 1953 he took his 75-year-old grandmother on a camping trip to the Poconos, where they spent a wonderful day, but unfortunately when he woke up the next morning she was dead, so he zipped her body into a sleeping bag, tied it to the roof of his Volkswagen, and drove to a police station, but even more unfortunately while he was inside making a report someone stole the car; that at 16 he persuaded a 13-year-old friend of his sister's to lick his "wee-wee" by telling her it tasted like a strawberry lollipop; that having been hired by the CIA after answering a want ad, he aced his training and was soon infiltrating a civil rights march in Selma, Alabama; that when ABC decided to air The Dating Game, the CIA said, hey, no reason you can't be a successful TV producer and a spy; that he kept dodging assignments until his CIA boss said, come with me to Mexico City, it'll be fun, and during the plane ride casually told Chuck they were going to kill a communist revolutionary, which they did; that after he got back he had three ex-cons destroy the Cadillac of a jerk who was in the habit of pretending to be a Dating Game talent scout and raping would-be contestants; that the CIA then assigned him to meet a courier in London, where he exchanged an envelope of money for a roll of microfilm, then jammed his silencer-equipped automatic into the courier's mouth and pulled the trigger three times, whereupon "the man's eyes remained surprised while the back of his head splattered against the wall of the church"; that he then "greased the bullet-shaped vial with , dropped my pants, and slid the vial up my ass"; that he then sold ABC The Newlywed Game; that he spent $20,000 on abortions for various girlfriends; that he killed a bunch of other people (the details blur); but then a lot of his friends started getting killed because there was a mole in the CIA, but Barris got the last laugh by killing the mole, who turned out to be none other than . . . sorry, I don't want to ruin the suspense. Barris says he received an award from the CIA "for outstanding service," which provoked him to muse about "the strange dichotomy of being crucified by my peers for attempting to entertain people and lauded by my peers for killing them."

So, Russ, getting back to your question: Is Chuck Barris a fraud? Of course not, silly man. A fraud is somebody who expects people to believe his crazy bullshit. If doubts remain on this score, King Kaufman points out the following in an article posted to Salon.com (you'll find it in the archive): (a) in 1993 Barris published another memoir, The Game Show King: A Confession, in which he says nothing about the CIA or, for that matter, his previous book, and (b) over the years Barris has given varying accounts concerning his age, the manner in which he proposed to one of his wives, and so on. Of the CIA yarn, Barris coyly says in interviews, "I can't really confirm or deny it"--about as close as he'll come to admitting he cooked the whole thing up as a rebuttal to critics who thought his shows were atrocities. If you want to take the story seriously, Barris is happy to let you. But come on. He made a career out of outrageousness, and Confessions of a Dangerous Mind proves he never lost his touch.

--CECIL ADAMS

More:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030207.html
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:24 PM
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15. If he's a counterterrorism expert, I'm Michelle Malkin
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