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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:19 AM
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BREAKING: Freepers can't read
The assholes are saying Section 1802, Subchapter I., Chapter 36, title 50 of the United States Code authorizes the president to spy on United States citizens. They even quoted it verbatim. Unfortunately, reading comprehension was never their strong suit. Just a snippet of what they say gives their boy the power to spy on United States Citizens:

(a)(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that -

(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at -

(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or

(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;

(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and

(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under ection 1801(h) of this title; and if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the


Now tell me, how the FUCK does that allow a president to spy on American citizens? In fact, it SPECIFICALLY FORBIDS such action!

More from the reading comprehension impaired morans(sic) here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1544639/posts


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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:20 AM
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1. They can't read, comprehend, reason,
Only react, I think.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:21 AM
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2. I prefer the term "Barely Monolingual" myself
It emphasizes the lack of ability to spell/read and subtly hints at the ultra-nationalism!

Sorry, I refuse to read FR.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:22 AM
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3. Rocks??
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:22 AM
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4. They also think no constitutional amendment was broken EITHER.
They believe he was perfectly within the bounds of the 4th Amendment (and, outside the constitution, the 1978 FISA act). It makes your jaw drop at the depths they'll stoop for a piece of shit like Bewsh.

Someday, they'll have to come to terms with themselves and do the one thing their hero has taught them not to do - admit ERROR. That's the ugliest word in the world to them.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:04 AM
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13. they only know the 2nd amendment, its hard work to count beyond that.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:46 AM
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18. they're "just following orders"
their children will will mistrust them when history settles the matter of bush's presidency.

they will repudiate this man and never admit to supporting him 20 years from now.

sorta like germans after wwII
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:23 AM
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5. Bush is saying he can do it anyways
regardless of the text of the Act, since the "war on terror" authorization gave him the authority. But the little Bushbots are scurrying to pin it all on Carter and Clinton, because that's all they really know how to do. Both of em are wrong, in their own amusing and pathetic way.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:26 AM
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6. All those "words" put in "phrases" confuses them
Which leads to a short-circuiting of their already shriveled cerebral cortex.

It's HARD WORK.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:26 AM
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7. They are at war with us, thus we are foreigners to them and
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 10:27 AM by BuyingThyme
appropriate targets of surveillance under 1802...
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:28 AM
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8. Walt...
They read the words, but the little voices in their heads direct them to interpret them in dangerous ways.

Being not too intelligent and weak willed, they obey the little voices rather than the evidence of their own senses.

For some the little voices are psychological; They think of them as "god" talking to them. For others the little voices come with brands like "Fox" and "Clear Channel" - An electronic schizophrenia.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:39 AM
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11. They are not reading what is written, that's absolutely clear
Bush clearly violated Sections 1802, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, and 1808 (as defined under Section 1801) of Subchapter I, Chapter 36, Title 50 of the United States Code. There is no interpretation to be made, the verbiage is clear as a bell.

I just don't get it. How the hell can they consider this as supportive of their boy? This is the most damning bit there is because this is the actual law he flagrantly violated and admitted to violating!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:23 AM
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14. Because they quit reading at (a)(1). As soon as they read
something that supported what Bush did, they stopped. They didn't bother to read the exceptions.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:43 AM
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16. At least the cranial voices can be quieted with a few jabs from a Q-tip
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:28 AM
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9. Are you suggesting that their "read" might be different
if such revelations had been made about, oh say, Bill Clinton?

Sometimes I wonder why I spent so much time supporting and defending their constitutional liberties. They obviously have no concept of their importance and have no appreciation for them.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:29 AM
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10. More to the point...
...this section of the law was enacted with the intent of prohibiting exactly the type of surveilance that they appeared to be doing. Otherwise there'd be no reason for FISA courts. This argument just doesn't make any sense to me.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:39 AM
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12.  Foriegn Powers
Does the word Foreign even appear in the FREEPER dictionary/
Ps. to all the lurkers out there sorry for using long words.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:50 AM
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19. fornine... freaks!
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:39 AM
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15. Boy, Section B makes it pretty damned clear!
For Bush to have used this to cover his ass, Ashcroft and Gonzales would have had to certify *under oath*, every year, that there are no US persons involved. So, if the AGs haven't certified, then they can't use this code. And, if the AGs did certify, then there's some major explaining to do, as US persons were *targeted*.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems clear to me.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:44 AM
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17. You know, it was bad enough when they were
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 11:45 AM by walldude
denying evidence that was right in front of their faces. Now they are taking evidence that supports the opposition and using it to try to justify their position. :crazy: I can't even wrap my brain around the depths of that kind of stupidity.

edited for deep stupidity :eyes:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:51 AM
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20. They're freepers, what did you expect?
They see the words "section", subchapter", "chapter", "title", and a bunch of words in italics and they start drooling in frustration. It's easier to just agree with whatever they are told to believe and try not to look retarded.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:52 AM
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21. I read some of their posts
and a few of them actually ask the question, "If the law specifically prohibits collecting info on Americans, How does that support bush?" No one has responded to THOSE posts!!!!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:54 AM
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22. Well, No Thanks On The Link
But, this is a good catch Walt. You're right. The very text says they CAN'T do it. It not only doesn't provide for situations in which they can, but specifically forbids it.

I don't want to go to that low IQ site to read the rest. I'll trust you on that.
The Professor
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