The freepers are losing it

[proud2BlibKansan]

I have been 'debating' this guy about the war for about 6 months. Yesterday he posted an article about the negative press coverage of the war. It said "For the year, the number of negative stories on Iraq stands at 1,048 (61%), to just 245 positive stories (14%)." http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2005/fax[phone].asp

So I responded " So 61% of the developments in Iraq are negative and 14% are positive. Sounds about right.

Than another freeper got into the thread and thanked the first freeper: "Thanks for some positive articles. It's refreshing, and those who reject positive news are not just exercising their freedom of speech. It's blatantly supporting the enemy."

So I asked if they think it is okay to lie just to paint a rosy picture.

And here is what the guy said back to me this morning:
To hell with you and the reporter that carries your water. Those 'evil people' are my friends and family, and they are making incredible sacrifices to make me more secure and what should be considered angelic sacrifices by the Iraqi people.

I tell you they are LOSING it. I am going to look up the 4th amendment and post it verbatim along with direct quotes from el pretzeldente admitting spying on us. YIPEE! This is such fun. Their heads are exploding, lemme tell ya.

[Poll_Blind]

1. DIS CONNECT from reality.

I tell you, some of their number are never going to be able to face the truth. I would not be suprised if dozens of these freep types eventually go on shooting rampages dressed like Rambo because their nut's cracked.

PB

[mcctatas]

2. As long as your intention is merely to befuddle the freepers...

I am of the distinct impression that those who support bush are suffering from either some type of mental illness or a self-delusional mass hysteria. Even my fundie freeper FIL saw the writing on the wall a few months ago (although his complaint was with the defecit spending not the ideology). Those who remain...Grade A Prime Cut fuckwits! So, I say go forth and befuddle, but if you're trying to change minds...better call a deprogrammer.;):rofl:

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. Most of them on that particular board have either quit that board

or stopped defending el pretzeldente last summer (THANK YOU CINDY SHEEHAN!).

This guy and his little WWJD cheerleader are the only ones left.

And one of the others has come over to OUR side. She posts more negative crap about dubya than I do.

[I Have A Dream]

37. I think that there's some kind of subliminal message coming through...

both Faux News and Limbaugh's shows. I can't think of any other way to explain how some really good, intelligent people are so intensely supportive of absolutely disgusting actions by the B* cabal. It really does seem like brainwashing to me!

[FreedomAngel82]

61. Yep

Even a month or so ago my grandma who used to support Bush is now doubting him because of all of his lying. Where she came up with that? :shrug: She only gets very basic cable and doesn't have the internet. She even doubts his faith. :shrug: So I do think only a small part of the population still trust's Bush and possibly republicans.

[Jade Fox]

3. The nuts on the right....

have convinced themselves, from the President on down, that the only reason their world view is not prevailing is because it's not being reported. Yeah, right. Reality matters, as us reality-based folks know.


Explode on, freepers.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. They actually believe it is okay to lie

which blows my mind.

[FreedomAngel82]

62. Except if you're Clinton or any other democrat

[Warpy]

4. I applaud you for trying to educate

the uneducable. I'm afraid their belief system will interfere with the process and you'll never manage to get through to a real Freeper. However, you may be getting through to some of the mushy conservatives who read that board because they think sacrificing a few rights on the altar of tax cuts is a good bargain.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. Many of them have shut up

And quite a few have stopped posting.

[tom swift]

5. Losing it

Next time you talk to them, ask them how it can be that after 33 months and billions of $s, why does Baghdad average only 5 hours of electricity every day (per State Dept. weekly report);why does the oil industry produce less oil every month than the pre-war average;why are Iraqis suffering an average of 62 casualties per day (1/05 to 9/05 per the DoD quarterly report);oh,never mind. Just admit it's all good and that you're glad we spent all the $s and lives so Iran can have a satellite state.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. Oh that's good

THANKS!

[wtmusic]

6. I'd ask him if it's OK to kill foreigners to make one feel more secure...

and support terrorists like OBL.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. Been there done that

He quit the board for two weeks afterwards. LOL

[IndyOp]

7. Fight fire with fire --

While many of those people (soldiers) who are over there went for noble reasons, and while we *all* want them to return healthy and whole, they are *not* making us safer. By following the orders of their Commander and Chief they put us in greater danger of terrorist attack.

Ask them to explain to you exactly how the deaths of at least 30,000 innocent Iraqi civilians is going to make us safer? Isn't that going to fuel the insurgency? Isn't it likely that some of the insurgents may become radicalized and turn to terrorism? Isn't the target likely to be US?

Get REAL, the actions of US military and CIA and corporations around the world *are* WHY THEY HATE US.

[sallyseven]

12. Ok I am dense. How come he is all squishy

about protecting us now when we know he didn't protect us on 9/11.
He let it happen so he could be a dictator. Thats all folks. Don't trust him or his minions.

[MnFats]

8. blatant ADMISSION of illegal domestic spying must make ...

...their fuggin' freeper heads explode!

weren't these people the ones that were going to get government out of our lives???
doesn't this concern them?
they SHOULD be losing it!

[MadisonProgressive]

9. I hope you can post it before you get ZOTed

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. The mod is a lib

She likes me.

I just PMed her to report this freeper telling me "to hell with you". That is a violation of the board rules. He has been in trouble a couple times before. So they might kick him off after what he said today. But I hope not. I LOVE taunting him. LOL

[Obamanaut]

39. I got a ZOT on FR for this post - made me so proud

To: xxxxx
You wrote"...I just watched our most excellent President Bush and he is mad..."

I agree with this post completely, but rarely see this truth printed. He is possibly angry as well, especially with approval ratings in the 30's, but most certainly mad. Has been for quite a while.

719 posted on 12/17/2005 6:13:43 PM PST by xxxxx (start slowly, then taper off)

The discussion was about *'s anger about getting caught with his finger in the spy - er, pie.

[Straight Shooter]

52. "Has been for quite a while." LOL.

:thumbsup:

[medeak]

10. It's like talking to a drunk

not worth the effort

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. But it is so much fun

They are so damn dumb.

[C_U_L8R]

11. Fun with Freeps

I love it when their tiny little brains go "pop".

It's like snapping bubblewrap.... totally addictive.


hahahhahahhahahahaha

[trixie]

18. Good try in trying to debate with logic

With the Bushites logic is never used. I can see where you had trouble. I do want to make the difference between Republicans and Bushites. We can see that a major part of the GOP has seen the light but the Bushites will never see the light. In 50 years they will still be defending the guy. I have seen more "I Voted for Nader" bumper stickers. I assume they are covering up the Bush/Cheney stickers they so prominently displayed at election time. I don't even think Nader got on the Michigan ticket. I have blocked the whole horrible election out.

[hfojvt]

26. and some people are still defending Nader

who has been at the top of my sh*tlist since August 2000 when he went into over-drive to help elect Bush.

[proud2BlibKansan]

27. LOL

Bubblewrap. That's a great analogy.

Somewhere on the internets is some virtual bubblewrap. Wish I could remember where I found that.

[parasim]

35. Here's one of my favorites...

Must have more...

http://www.nonstop.lv/files/bubblewrap.swf

[proud2BlibKansan]

36. Bookmarked!

Thanks.

[NJmaverick]

13. I hear the sinking of the Titanic and Custard's last stand

Got bad press as well. What's this right wingnut's point?

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. He's defending Murica

Can't you see that? LOL

[EFerrari]

14. Embracing reality emboldens the terrorists!

The ones that are holding back, waiting to be embolded. :eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. Hey I went after osama bill with a vengeance on that board

and this particular freeper tried hard to defend him. But the others all condemned him, especially the WWJD princess. I tell ya, logic and truth wins out every time.

[ThomWV]

15. Here is the Bill of Rights for you

THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution


The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;

Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:


Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. Thanks Thom

I posted the 4th amendment and a direct quote from dubya admitting spying. I ended with that dictator quote.

Should be interesting to see how they react.

[Catherine Vincent]

21. As if the Iraqi people give a damn about his sorry ass.

:eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. That's another good point

If he doesn't get kicked off, I will post that. Thanks.

[hfojvt]

23. ABC news has been carrying water for Bush all week

it seems to me. First they had mothers who had lost sons and almost all the mothers they quoted believed there was a noble cause that their sons died for. Then they "interviewed" six American soldiers in Iraq who all said "hoo-rah, stay the course" and they did gushing reports on Iraq (of course, they seemed to focus on the peaceful city and they did mention that it was being kept peaceful by followers of some "radical" cleric that the US was trying to arrest last year). And they were rah-rah about the elections. And I switched to ABC news because they were less right-wing than CBS.

The fourth amendment is here:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.txt

[proud2BlibKansan]

33. I have not trusted ABC since they led the charge against Clinton

But did you see This Week this morning? George interviewed a soldier from Iraq who lost her legs and is running for Congress - as a Dem. It was a great interview. Then he followed that piece with the reporters commenting on dubya spying. Great show today - check it out if you can.

[hfojvt]

40. It may just be the local affiliates

I did not have TV during the Monica tribulations, thank god, but for a while I was watching KCTV at 5 and KMBC at 6, and on several stories it seemed to me that KCTV was promoting straight RNC spin whereas KMBC presented alternatives.

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. I agree about KCTV

They pander more to Johnson County, which is Republican. My dad had them all pegged - 5 was the JO CO station, 41 is WY CO, 9 is more slanted to Jackson Co and MO. 4 is just inept.

I gave up on all of the locals a few years ago. If I want to hear local news, I go their websites or read the paper.

CBS strikes me as more liberal than either NBC or especially ABC. ABC just crucified Clinton. At least CBS was brave enough to tell the AWOL story.

[Ilsa]

45. And did you notice how Bush has lost Cokie?

She mentioned how the admin cannot claim they are keeping us safe -- Katrina proved they can't! Bush neglected to take care of the home town of a prominent veteran political commentator, and she hasn't cuthim much slack since then.

[proud2BlibKansan]

51. She was after him again this morning on This Week

[PatrioticLeftie]

31. Freepers never had 'it'

They've always been hateful liars, that's all they know how to be.

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. How true

[ny_liberal]

53. LOL

true

[housewolf]

38. Did you see George Will on "This Week" this morning?

Oh my gosh, in the strongest language I've ever heard him use, he condemned the admin for secret spying on Americans in stong words like "illegal" and "unconstitutional." Very strongly spoke about how wrong it was to do such things.

Talk about heads exploding... if George Will is criticizing the prez, none of the rest of them have a leg to stand on.

Even Cokie Roberts talked against it, although she tried to pass some of the wrong onto congress.

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Yes I saw that

and then he lost me with his defense of the war on Christmas.

[Ian David]

42. Ask him if he thinks Limbaugh and pals are INCITING THE ENEMY

on Armed Forces Radio.


Rush Limbaugh's Un-American Activities Continue

Rush Limbaugh keeps shamelessly promoting the disgusting and offensive notion that the Dentention Camp at Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo) is some sort of Club or Resort. Rushlimbaugh.com is selling T-Shirts, Hats, Mugs, and other types of hatelful propaganda on its front page. Further, Rush updates weather comparison between Gitmo and Bagdhad. Since it's hotter in Bagdhad, it seems Rush is implying it's better to be at "Club Gitmo".\

Rush Limbaugh's continued anti-American behavior comes on the heels of Mr. Limbaugh recently blasting the Downing Street Memo and the "liberal media". Rush tries to put forth an argument that claims liberals who question the President and the War in Iraq are somehow Anti-American. Further Rush claims that the left's continued assault on the Bush Administration in forcing the Downing Street Minutes to the front pages of the media is empowering the insurgency in Iraq.

This again is nothing but shear redirect. If anything is empowering the insurgents right now it's these shameful images and products of "Club Gitmo" that Rush Limbaugh promotes. His behavior is completely un-American.

As an American I believe in Truth, Justice, and the American Way of Life. Truth and Justice are more important than any Presidential Administration will ever be. Truth and Justice protect the American Way of Life. People like Rush Limbaugh would rather protect the current Presidential Administration rather than support the quest for Truth and Justice. By doing so Mr. Limbaugh puts the American Way of Life in jeopardy.


More:
http://pissedonpolitics.blogspot.com/2005/06/rush-limbaughs-un-american-activities.html

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. That's a good idea

I already pointed out how offensive those damn tshirts are. But this is much better. Thanks.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. How can we ever forget this crap?

[Ilsa]

46. Yeah, they are claiming the local right-wing newspaper has

"gone left" because some of the editorials and LTTE are anti-Bush agenda when the admin screws something up. The problem is the newspaper doesn't have much of anything good to say about Bush, and the readers don't want to hear the bad news.

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. So what is the talk about DeLay?

Does he have many supporters in Texas?

[Ilsa]

56. I am sw of his district, in Ron Paul's district, and there is still

some support for DeLay here from hard-core rethugs, saying it is the dems making mountains out of molehills. But He islosing support inhis own district.

[kevinbgoode]

47. Please...and they use "Media Research Center"...like it's an objective

source? It might as well be a branch of the Ministry of Propaganda.

Of course the Freeps want LIES. . .they want anything that makes them appear they are perfect, just like any other elite that supports dictatorships. You aren't making me more secure when you peel away my civil rights, claim I have to give up freedom to make someone else "free" and then support a fundamentalist Islamic government that will serve as a model for the Freeper-backed "christian" Taliban government they advocate here at home.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. I don't know much about that Media Research Center

Is it a rw website?

[harpo]

49. 4th amendment link

4th amendment

[proud2BlibKansan]

55. Thanks

I am bookmarking that.

[journalist3072]

54. Sounds like the freepers on my blog

I had one freeper tell me that my criticism of the war, and the Administration's handling of the war, "is a direct reflection on the troops" and that I was providing aide and comfort to the enemy.

I told him: So by your own logic (or lack thereof), you are saying that the only way to support the troops is to support the Administration.

And I told him that I guess that means he didn't support the troops for 8 years, when Clinton was President. Since he didn't support Clinton, he didn't support the troops.

And now, some of the freepers are complaining b/c I have banned them from my blog!!

I banned them because they were not sticking to the subject or the topic in some threads; and they were very disrespectful to me.

So I had to set some tighter controls. Now people have to register before they post on my blog.

They are having fits---and I love it! :)

[dorktv]

58. I have avoided Freepers on my blog.

[journalist3072]

63. Lucky you!! Now...

The freepers are spazzing out b/c I banned them from my blog.

Bless their pitiful hearts, one of them has even started a blog in MY honor, called Regressive Minds, where I'm referred to as a "lying bitch." (My site is called Progressive Minds).

I told them that as far as banning them goes, I learned from the best: their good friends at Free Republic.

[dorktv]

64. Sucky.

I should check yours out.

I am working a project to get the message of all of the members of a congressional Candidate listserv out on every blog I can.

One of the things we need to have is as many people write about in the months before next November.

[journalist3072]

65. Yes, please definitely check out my blog...

And feel free to post.

One word of caution: You will have to register for the site, before posting.

I had to put tighter controls on the blog, and ban some of the freepers.

So I hope you'll take the time to register and then start commenting.

Thanks!!!

[dorktv]

66. Comment? Um...

sure!

[Beelzebud]

59. I thought one of the requirments of being a freeper.

was that you have already lost it. :D

[FreedomAngel82]

60. Of course they are

And when people lose it they definitely get aggressive against you. And they don't think liberals have people in Iraq or are in Iraq?