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mechanical mandible Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:45 AM
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Wal-Mart's presence spurs growth
http://www.qcbusinessjournal.com/articles/2005/09/27/economic_development/doc431376ed4d481778127654.txt

Soon after the Wal-Mart Super Center opened off West Kimberly Road in Davenport in late 2003, Mike Kehl says he began to see the potential for opening a restaurant nearby.

“I managed a Rudy’s Tacos for 18 years in Rock Island, and I saw it as an opportunity to go out on my own,” Kehl says of the store he opened with his wife, Cassie, last year in the Westlyn Square strip mall across the street from the big-box giant.

So far, the location has not disappointed, Kehl says. Sales are 30 percent ahead of projections. He believes he also is meeting pent-up demand in an area of Davenport that was starved for more commercial development. While some of his customers come from the interstate, most are nearby residents.

Wal-Mart and its adjoining strip mall have brought a welcome mini-boom to northwest Davenport, according to area real-estate agents and business owners who rely on traffic to drive customers to their establishments.

Since the opening of Davenport’s second Wal-Mart Super Center, the area also has seen the opening of a new IH Mississippi Valley Credit Union branch, as well as a Culver’s restaurant, Subway restaurant, Payless ShoeSource, U.S. Cellular store and several other businesses.
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mechanical mandible Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:46 AM
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1. Wal-Mart also pays folks a lot more than most "box" stores...
in company prompotion is also very common.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:55 AM
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2. Gosh, sounds like a GREAT company!
All evidence to the contrary...
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:57 AM
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3. kick for the morning crew!
Because they will definitely want to know.
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mechanical mandible Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:58 AM
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5. I've seen Wal-Mart change a small city such as Abilene, Tx
Though correlations aren't always causation, Wal-marts certainly don't negatively affect the economic growth in a city.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:18 AM
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13. Nah.... pricing the local businesses out of existence....
with cheap Chinese knockoffs then shipping the profits off to Arkansas is GREAT for a local economy. Not to mention the fantastic health care they provide... :sarcasm:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:30 AM
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40. Wow a Wally World Big Box fan, I've never met one
We had a fucking Scum Mart open near us on the big mall property occupied by Target and a 1/4 mile from Costco. Target is always and I mean always 1/2 to 3/4 full in the shoppers parking areas, and they are the size of a football field.

Over at stick shit in your eye and twist big box fuck you work or die Wally Mart Sucks the anti-Wally Mart activists at the entrance road have successfully kept many people away from these scumbags this holiday season. So many people are ignorant as to what a Wally Mart does to their community when they stop to take the hand outs, they almost always turn around.

Fuck Wally Mart, may the pseudo-Christian Walton family burn in a hell specially made for those who think killing thousands either indirectly or directly while swimming in wealth is in the footsteps of Jesus.


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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:08 AM
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20. LOL.
:rofl:
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:15 AM
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11. Walmart is a free-trader's racket. Shop at Costco where employees are
paid a livable wage and enjoy decent benefits. Fuck the Walton family and their flying monkey minions.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:15 AM
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12. If I was a little Chinese girl shackled to a workbench...
I'd expect to be paid a little extra as well.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:25 AM
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15. .
:popcorn:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:12 AM
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28. Can you point me to some actual statistics, and not just conjecture?
Thanks.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:22 AM
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33. don't think we'll hear from o.p. again soon........
n/t
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:26 AM
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36. Shit, I hate drive-bys!
x(
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:14 AM
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39. That's true. And that's why you see so many local government
agencies closing up shop and abandoning their food stamp and subsidized health care programs in communities where WalMart has come in and displaced the local merchants, and caused the local factories to move to China.

People that were once making $15 an hour with health care are elated that they can work for $8 an hour at Walmart, because otherwise they might have to work for $7.85 at Lowes, and that would be a lot worse.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:58 AM
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4. Wal-Mart is GREAT!
NOT!

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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:04 AM
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6. Hey SwampRat, good morning to you.
Not convinced WalMArt is a good thing? :-) Sheesh, everybody's a critic!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:08 AM
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7. Not since Smell-Fart destroyed every small town I've ever known...
Plus, they cater to Red Commie Rightos and Talibornagains. :puke:



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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:12 AM
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8. Talibornagains!
That's great! I refuse to shop at WalMart, they suck.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:10 AM
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21. Talibornagains, LOL.
:rofl:

Btw, I absolutely love what your sig pic says.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:16 AM
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25. Here's another Talibornagain:
:D

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:13 AM
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9. And a cashier at our local drug store said that...
Since WalMart came into Covington, WA earlier this year, their business is a fraction of what it used to be. Holiday sales are way down. Maybe she can get a good job at the Subway that opens up, or selling shoes at Payless Shoe source.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:14 AM
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10. Just ignore those boarded up downtown stores.
Hey, we can also all ignore the fact that WalMart means growth in the local welfare burden on our county. It means growth in emergency room visits as it's employees can't afford health insurance.

If probably also means growth in mental health referrals and domestic violence disputes as the crazy big box scheduling takes a toll on employee stress levels. That's why people are so crazy to have a WalMart come to town that they organize and petition to ask them to go away. It's reverse psychology see.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:21 AM
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14. Boarded up downtown stores? Ain't no more stores boarded up or otherwise
They paved them all into one huge parking lot that no one parks in because there ain't no place to shop at any more. Nice parking lots though. They have a nice (chinsie) carnival on it once a year.

Don
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:12 AM
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23. Nevermind the fact that towns that host Wal Mart stores
eventually end up with absolutely NO alternative to Wal-Mart.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:26 AM
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16. Where did people shop before Wal-Mart came to town?
:shrug:

Some people support Wal-Mart as if it was some huge relief effort that rushed in and saved communities.

Where did people shop before?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:00 AM
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17. i tell you what, it was a nightmare
we had to wait months for supplies, and it's a wonder the whole town didn't starve :sarcasm:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:06 AM
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18. and when the wagon train was raided by roving highwaymen....
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 04:06 AM by SoCalDem
well alls I can say is the young'uns got mighty tired of eatin' treebark & lard sandwiches:)
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:10 AM
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22. .
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:13 AM
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24. LOL.
:rofl:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:08 AM
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19. This should be interesting.
:popcorn:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:10 AM
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27. Can I have some popcorn too?
:hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:16 AM
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29. ... not Mal-Wart popcorn neither!
:D


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:17 AM
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31. Exactly!
Costco popcorn is much higher quality!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:24 AM
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34. I'm full... here's a bag of organic popcorn.
:popcorn: :9


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:25 AM
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35. Thanks SwampRat
You are the best!

:9
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:18 AM
Response to Reply #29
32. LOL.
:rofl:

Good one, SR.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:39 PM
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43. .
:popcorn:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:17 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. LOL.
:rofl:

Yes, here ya go. :popcorn:

We had better send out for some more, especially as more people see this one. :evilgrin:
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:08 AM
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26. Yeah, right.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:38 AM
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37. Minor Correction: WalMart WARPS growth.
I know I'm late to this party, and others have noted how the retailing cancer that is WalMart destroys communities and degrades workers.

Sinistrous
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:04 AM
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38. It's a wage-DEPRESSING, Sprawl-creating, maggot-like monster.
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 11:44 AM by JanMichael
It wipes out suppliers (see Vlasic) with predatory purchasing practices, doesn't insure even 50% of it's 900,000 US employees and even encourages them to seek local government health assistance thus straining those systems to the max Ie. we pay for their PROFITS, its median wages are about $8.00/hr which is shit and it drives DOWN other service industry wages plus it's almost totally non-union (Costco smokes Sam's and Walcrap plus insures almost its entire workforce; that said its product line is substantially China as well but that's not a service labor issue), destroys small businesses within city centers thus taking choice AWAY from poorer urban resident and which again is idiotic when it comes to pollution/consumption/and cost of fuel, they make practice of calling "Full-Time" less than the required hours to qualify for benefits...

Etcetera. Big picture please, the big picture.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:12 AM
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49. I think you have that last part backwards
They call a 35 hour worker a "full time worker". That gives them full time benefits, it does not deny them benefits. There is no law, that I am aware of, that requires a company to pay benefits no matter how many hours an employee works. Even over-time gets stolen, IMO. I worked 4 twelve hour days as a temp for more than one year - no benefits at all, no paid holidays, no paid vacation, no paid sick leave, no pension, and no insurance. Because the schedule floats, they split the weeks half of the time and do not pay over-time in spite of the fact that I worked 47 hours in 4 days. Whatever else Wal-mart does that is bad, it deserves a thumbs up for paying benefits to 35 hour a week workers.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:14 AM
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50. Sincere question
What percentage of Walmart's workers are hired at 35 hours a week? My guess is that it is lower than other retailers, therefore a higher percentage of the workers are not benefit eligible.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:41 AM
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41. I cannot believe that anyone would go out of their way to defend Wal-Mart
It is incomprehensible to me. I don't care if you're some kind of googly-eyed neo-liberal market-worshipping sick-o. Why the hell would you go OUT OF YOUR WAY to defend a place that sells cheap, trashy bullshit, and drives smaller, independent people out of business?

That's what gets me -- I'm going to assume with your 41 posts, that you may have an ulterior motive for this. Guess what -- the "big box store," and consumerism and all this illusion that people have built up are what's ruining the family -- not gay people, not libruls, not Bill Clinton's BJ.

Defending the Trash Palace is about as far from anything redemptive, as you can get. You can believe in the free-market, but not sell out to predator corporations who render the world a plastic blue-and-white parking lot -- the perfect accessory to the tan house in the treeless cul-de-sac.

And oooooooooooo please give me a Wal-Mart, so other big-box stores, chains and other disgusting places can move in, right alongside. Sprawl is my fucking dream. :eyes:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 05:23 AM
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44. Not to mention the fact that Wal-Mart sells extremist
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:45 AM
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42. ...reminds of those seagulls which follow the trash barges out to sea.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 05:35 AM
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45. I wondered when pieces like this would start showing up.
Wonder what they cost the Walton's?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 05:38 AM
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46. Yeah
Be aware that the OP is no longer with us.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 05:59 AM
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47. Too many advertising dollars from Wally World. eom
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:02 AM
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48. you are arguing that the sky is green -- when anyone can look up
and see that the sky is blue
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:16 AM
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51. There are some businesses (Great CLips and McD's) that follow Wal-Mart
There are particular stores that are now following wal-marts around that are opening up and building right next to them, out in the fields of middle of america and not fixing downtown business up.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:27 AM
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52. The Real Facts About Wal-Mart -- Community Impact
link:

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/facts/

"Community Impact

Wal-Mart wages negatively impact overall wages

The influx of big-box stores into San Diego would result in an annual decline in wages and benefits between $105 million and $221 million
is already triggering a dynamic in which the grocery stores are negotiating with workers for lowered compensation, in an attempt to re-level the `playing field.’”
Lower wages mean less money for communities

When an employer pays low wages to its employees, the employees have less money to spend on goods and services in the community, which in turn reduces the income and spending of others in the community. In other words a reduction in wages has a multiplier impact in the surrounding area.
For instance, in 1999, Southern California municipalities estimated that for every dollar decrease in wages in the southern California economy, $2.08 in spending was lost-- the $1 decrease plus another $1.08 in indirect multiplier impacts. <“The Impact of Big Box Grocers in Southern California” Dr. Marlon Boarnet and Dr. Randall Crane.>
Longer term effects of Wal-Mart can be disastrous

Over the course of , retailers' sales of mens' and boys' apparel dropped 44% on average, hardware sales fell by 31%, and lawn and garden sales fell by 26%.
In towns without Wal-Marts that are close to towns with Wal-Marts, sales in general merchandise declined immediately after Wal-Mart stores opened. After ten years, sales declined by a cumulative 34%.
Wal-Mart stifles competition

A Congressional Research Service report in 1994 explained that Wal-Mart builds stores in nearby connected markets in order to stifle any competition in the targeted area by the size of its presence.
Wal-Mart destroys the environment

In October 2004, the United States sued Wal-mart for violating the Clean Water Act in 9 states, calling for penalties of over $3 million and changes to W-M building codes.
The United States Environmental Protection agency fined Wal-Mart $1 million, settling allegations that Wal-Mart violated the Clean Water Act with dirt discharges while building stores in Massachusetts, New Mexico, Okalahoma, and Texas.
The Pennsylvania Environmental Protection Department fined Wal-Mart $100,000 for polluting rivers.
Wal-Mart was fined $765,000 for violating Florida’s petroleum storage tank laws at its automobile service centers. Wal-Mart failed to register its fuel tanks, failed to install devices that prevent overflow, did not perform monthly monitoring, lacked current technologies, and blocked state inspectors.
In Georgia, Wal-Mart was fined about $150,000 for water contamination.
Wal-Mart increases vehicle traffic

A study of estimated additional driving costs of Supercenters in the San Francisco Bay area concluded that there would be up to an additional 238 million vehicle miles traveled per year.
These extra miles traveled could cost communities in the Bay area up $ 256 million in additional costs for infrastructure repair and environmental degradation.
Wal-Mart’s rapid expansion of Supercenters and Sam's Clubs has contributed to hundreds of vacant stores across the country. <“Wal Mart site: Use as is or rebuild?”, Dallas Morning News, 2/20/02>
When Wal-Mart decides to convert a discount store into a larger Supercenter, it is often cheaper or easier simply to relocate entirely. David Brennan, associate professor of marketing at the University of St. Thomas, in St. Paul, Minn, notes that Wal-Mart stores relocate so regularly that, “it is not uncommon to relocate right across the street." <“Home Depot to Move from Old to New Store Next Door,” Providence News-Journal, 8/17/03>
Wal-Mart plans to build another 55 million square feet of store space this year, or roughly the equivalent of 1,000 football fields or 15 Pentagon buildings.
Big box retailers will most likely enter a community, only to be among the first to consolidate or fold when conditions begin to change. <“The Impact of Big Box Stores in S. California,” Dr. Marlon Boarnet>
In 2001, Wal-Mart controlled around 30 million square feet of vacant retail space through ownership or leases.
Vacant property drains the value from the surrounding area, whether commercial or residential."

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/facts/


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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:37 AM
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53. btw: Welcome to the Democratic Underground mechanical mandible
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:51 AM
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54. Too late,
the drive-by has been tombstoned.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:05 AM
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56. Yep... so he did...so he did.
...and we hardly knew him.
:rofl:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:56 AM
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55. Damn, Wal Mart even has the dead working for them!
rest in something, mechanical mandible
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:26 AM
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57. The light that burns half as long burns twice as brightly! And you have
burned so very brightly, mechanical mandible! Your brief DU career has been a distinguished one!
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:39 AM
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58. How much you wanna bet that the OP..
..works for a public relations firm? Or is a Wal-Mart exec? :evilgrin:
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