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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:01 PM
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document details American plan to bug phones of Security Council members
Edited on Sat Dec-17-05 10:09 PM by G_j
remember this?

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/03/Observer020303.html

Sunday, March 2, 2003

Revealed: US dirty tricks to win vote on Iraq war

Secret document details American plan to bug phones and emails of key Security Council members

Martin Bright, Ed Vulliamy in New York
and Peter Beaumont

As reader's of my biography, Hitler's War, will know, I revealed in my 1967 book Breach of Security, and again in my full length history of the Forschungsamt, Das Reich hört mit, that in 1938 this source provided Adolf Hitler with the strategic Intelligence he needed to up the ante during his negotiations with Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain.

THE United States is conducting a secret 'dirty tricks' campaign against UN Security Council delegations in New York as part of its battle to win votes in favour of war against Iraq. Details of the aggressive surveillance operation, which involves interception of the home and office telephones and the emails of UN delegates in New York, are revealed in a document leaked to The Observer.

The disclosures were made in a memorandum written by a top official at the National Security Agency - the US body which intercepts communications around the world - and circulated to both senior agents in his organisation and to a friendly foreign intelligence agency asking for its input.

The memo describes orders to staff at the agency, whose work is clouded in secrecy, to step up its surveillance operations 'particularly directed at . . . UN Security Council Members (minus US and GBR, of course)' to provide up-to-the-minute intelligence for Bush officials on the voting intentions of UN members regarding the issue of Iraq.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1158352,00.html

Blix: I was a target too

Chief UN weapons inspector believes he was bugged

Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor
Saturday February 28, 2004
The Guardian


The United Nations spying row widened yesterday when its former weapons inspector, Hans Blix, told the Guardian he suspected both his UN office and his home in New York were bugged in the run-up to the Iraq war.

In an exclusive interview, Mr Blix said he expected to be bugged by the Iraqis, but to be spied upon by the US was a different matter. He described such behaviour as "disgusting", adding: "It feels like an intrusion into your integrity in a situation when you are actually on the same side."

He said he went to extraordinary lengths to protect his office and home, having a UN counter-surveillance team sweep both for bugs.

"If you had something sensitive to talk about you would go out into the restaurant or out into the streets," he said.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:04 PM
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1. Thank you! Not only was war NOT the last resort, diplomacy was
subverted in the most iron-fisted ways to make sure that no one could undermine the invasion (which was in fact already in progress at that time).

Recommended.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:48 PM
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8. That's right. We didn't even get a pretend DRESS REHEARSAL.
mOFos.

:nuke:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:08 PM
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2. Right and as I remember NSA tapped
President Carter's international calls. But very little came of that. I wonder if Congress will demand of the NSA for a list of US Citizens bugged and check for political versus terrorist bugs.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:55 PM
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12. time to get out the "don't bug me" buttons
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:09 PM
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3. second that recco. i thought this sounded familiar
when i saw the topic on main page.
"Again?" thinks me.

Good blast from the past!
lets try to keep this beachball bouncing to monday.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:10 PM
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4. But we had to spy on Blix to protect national security.
Just as we have to spy on our fellow Americans to protect national security.

Just as we'll need national I.D. cards to protect national security.

Just as we'll need concentration camps for "restless citizens" to protect national security.

et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam, ad puke-em
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:37 PM
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5. don't forget those dangerous Quakers! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:49 PM
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9. lurking, al qaida Quakers. n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:39 PM
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6. Bush - the bug thug
Thanks for posting this!!!!!!

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:47 PM
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7. maybe we should compile a list of all the documented abuses
that have nothing to do with national security.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:50 PM
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10. Sounds like a plan....and handy.
I'll do some research.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:51 PM
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11. That would be a complete record of this pResidency
beginning with the way "everything" changed after he allowed 9/11 to happen -- out of sheer blinding stupidity if nothing worse.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:58 PM
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13. I despise that BS talking point
"everything changed"

Grrrrrrr

Truly though, his entire time in office has been "national security" and "executive privilege"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:25 PM
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16. The best smoke screens for miserable failure.
Everything changed on 9/11. Translation: We can't have you thinking about our performance on 9/11. Look over there!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:28 PM
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17. exactly
I just want to smack'em when it's used.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:00 PM
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14. you are right
that would be one big list! :wow:
Perhaps the ones most directly connected to the WH.
The NSA, I believe is part of the WH (or how ever you say it)

..memories of Ollie North shredding papers..
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:28 PM
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18. NSA, squarely in the Executive Branch.

Rosemary Wood(s?), Ollie North, Richard Nixon.

You do have a disaster kit, don't you, G_j? These people are insane.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:24 PM
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15. Get it off your chest!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:27 AM
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19. good advice
I've been formulating a letter in my head for the last few days.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:45 AM
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20. kick
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:56 AM
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21. Are the Bush-whacks doing this on PURPOSE???? :(
Gettin' all their bullcrap shenanigans out in the public NOW in hopes the bad press will go away by next Nov.? Like we'll really forget about it all by then! :(
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:36 AM
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22. I know it's an Observer article, but you're linking to David Irving's site
with your first link - fpp.co.uk. (You've also picked up an Irving penned sidebar as the first paragraph.)

Here's the proper link:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,905936,00.html
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:33 PM
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23. Locking
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 01:05 PM by Opposite Reaction
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