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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 08:57 PM
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Bush attacks New York Times for jeopardizing national security


www.cnn.com
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:00 PM
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1. Translation: Security of the nation is no longer security of the people.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:00 PM
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2. what do you think, will the times cave or not?
It took them over a year to print the damn story which is unforgivable, now that * is trashing them will they appologize which would also be unforgivable???
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:04 PM
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3. My crystal ball isn't working tonight so I don't know what the Times
will do. I will say that in the past, when a Gov't tried trashing a news group, they paid a very big price for doing so. Remember, Nixon did that, and they all burned him.

We'll have to wait and see. If they cave, that means this admin. has some pretty serious dirt on the Times!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:10 AM
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17. my magic eight ball says try again later
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:19 PM
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8. they'll hyperventilate, then square the shoulders
they know that if bush's goose is cooked (like tom delay's books) then they're up the crick...they helped put bush into power, despite an overwhelming democratic vote, and they've enabled bush to survive 4 years after the worst crime ever committed against the usa people ...the times will, like cbs news, assist the bushviks in moving the debate over away one place from the issue they fear getting aired out, illegal actions carried out by government knowingly and repeatedly...bush is blackmailing the american people, it seems(?)
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:05 PM
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4. Isn't that the same excuse
used for the Pentagon Papers?

Alas, the NYT is no longer exhibits the same gutsy journalism.
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:06 PM
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5. HE JEOPARDIZES IT EVEVERY TIME HE FUCKING WAKES UP.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:09 PM
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6. Standard practice for this regime - attack anyone who questions the
authority of the regime.

He thinks he is a king not president. He is nothing more than what he and his regime have declared Saddam to be. A murderous lying war criminal.

IMPEACHMENT NOW!
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:17 PM
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7. Great pic
recommend;-)
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:52 PM
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15. dank u beste
As we say in NL. :D
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:20 PM
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9. President Bush has committed impeachable offenses
http://justicefornone.com/article.php?story=2005121716013284

President Bush Admits Breaking The Law

Saturday, December 17 2005 @ 04:01 PM PST
Contributed by: admin
Views: 7

This week Americans learned that in the days after 9/11, President Bush ordered the National Security to spy on Americans at home--and he did it over a dozen times.

Using national security agencies to spy on citizens at home was the foundation of totalitarian nations such as Soviet Russia, East Germany, Syria and Iraq. It means that you never know when your phone is 'tapped' or your library records have been snooped or someone at work is reporting on your conversations at work.

Be that as it may, the argument we will hear over the next few days, if not weeks, is that even though it seems President Bush violated the Constitution (over a dozen times), and even though it seems this should be grounds for legal action against President Bush (over a dozen legal actions)--the Republicans will tell us that it was all 'legal' or 'lawful.'

When they say this, what will it mean?

What they mean is: Sure the President acted as if he was above the law. But he had a note from his lawyer saying it was OK.

Without doubt, President Bush has committed impeachable offenses. Therefore, it is time to carefully consider the scope of such an impeachment by laying out applicable Articles of Impeachment. for Bush's crimes go far beyond a stain on a blue dress.

(more at link. . .)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:33 PM
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10. Bush added: "Yesterday the existence of this
secret program was revealed in media reports, after being improperly provided to news organizations. As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not have, and the unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk."

Fuck you, Bush. Over 7,000 Americans have died on your watch. 3,000 died on 9/11 when you were told it was going to happen, 2,000 American soldiers have died because you continue to lie about 9/11 and over 2,000 have died from Hurricane Katrina because you didn't care because Katrina had nothing to do with 9/11 or Iraq. No president in the history has ever let something like this happen. You have no room to tell anyone anything about putting citizens at risk.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:36 PM
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11. I think America is becoming immune to their fake outrage.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:38 PM
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12. He sure must miss, Judy...
she pushed his agenda really well.:grr:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:44 PM
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13. So who told the times? Wasn't the revelation an act of treason?
Why is it ok for journalists to receive highly classified information and the public?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:50 PM
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14. This is a renewal of the unamerican attack on critics and dissent
Edited on Sat Dec-17-05 09:50 PM by teryang
David Korn was the recipient of such an attack on Fox today. He was speaking of the unlawful and unconstitutional nature of the chimps actions and was immediately branded as an "un-American." I believe the smirking slob who called him that also said his book was un-American. Korn had the temerity to point out that the right wing goon had no credentials when it came to counter-terrorism security measures whereas he had written a book on the subject.

Clearly it was a pre-meditated set up.
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Poet Lariat Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:03 PM
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16. Been away for awhile...did I miss something here?
from the full article...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/index.html

Bush says he signed NSA wiretap order

Adds he OK'd program more than 30 times, will continue to do so

(snip)
Bush, however, said he authorized the program on several occasions since the September 11 attacks and that he plans on doing it again.

"I have re-authorized this program more than 30 times," he said. "I intend to do so for as long as our nation faces a continuing threat from al Qaeda and related groups."
(more)

I thought a "program" like this required judicial oversight.

Does this mean that he thinks it doesn't?

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:52 AM
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18. I want to know what else they've been keeping from the public
which has been to Bush's personal advantage. How horrible. The main defenders of the public have been forced to be co-conspirators of this president to hide the worst corruption in two centuries. To think how he played up the role of teflon king, when he knew he had our press between a rock and a hard place.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:58 AM
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19. Hello; this is Pot; I'm calling for Kettle..
Is he in?

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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:08 AM
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20. He's saving us from ourselves.
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