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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:36 PM
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West Wing Taking a jab at the Kerry Campaign??
I was thinking last night as I watched the debate as to whether to replace Josh Lyman as the Santos Campaign Manager, that this sounded similar to the argument for replacing Mary Beth Cahill in Kerry's Presidential run. Did that thought cross anyone else's mind?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/31/kerry.campaign/

Much of the Democrats' criticism -- which is coming from donors, top strategists and elected officials -- was directed at Mary Beth Cahill, who was hired to run Kerry's campaign after the senator fired campaign manager Jim Jordan in late 2003. Democrats are also urging the candidate to overhaul his media strategy, led by communications director Stephanie Cutter.

There's no indication that Kerry will fire Cahill or Cutter, or change their titles. Cahill has spent the past several days with Kerry at his home in Nantucket, and she also met with the candidate at a private home Monday for 90 minutes. Kerry met with her again, along with his finance chairman, Louis Susman, on Tuesday morning.


I often wonder what would have happened if Kerry chose to replace Cahill, but all in all I think that the deck was stacked against us no matter who was at the helm.

I also liked Leo's comment at the end. "They are right, Josh has gotten you as far as he can... it's up to you to give people a reason to vote Santos for President".

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:40 PM
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1. It seems to me that it was a jab at the whiners who wanted Kerry
to change everything and bring somebody else, given the conclusion that is that Josh was not replaced and that they continue in the same strategy.

I think the point was that this happens in every campaign, that this is a necessary step, and that outsider whiners are often wrong.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:50 PM
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2. I seem to remember Dean's manager getting into trouble, too.
Actually, I think the West Wing script is getting VERY, VERY, EXTREMELY VERY BOOOOOOORRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG!

It's time to kill the beast out of mercy.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:54 PM
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3. Boooohisss
Last week was pretty lame sort ofthe whole proble with the aufust DOldrum in the real would. P(ost convention pre-labor day) but I tend to think that the next six weeks will be highly entertaining.


I am going to mis Jed though.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:03 PM
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6. IMHO, The last several seasons have been forced, poorly written
and lacking anything that approaches a compelling theme. Oh. Yes, I am particularly turned off by their lame apologist position on evolution. Humanities types writing scripts about science....that was timely but it really sucked.


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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:02 PM
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5. I think the campaign angle for both candidates is very interesting.
I wish we were so lucky as to have actual Presidential candidates such as these.

I'm finding it hard to embrace the Bartlet administration anymore... they've lost too many of the orginal cast and they don't have the same chemistry. But I suppose that is art imitating real life as well when a President is ending his final term.

I'm going to miss Bartlet too. :(
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:06 PM
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7. WW was special because of its ensemble cast they've screwed
that to the max.

I could watch people act like Neocons if it was convincing. WW has just gotten very, very tired. Watching the Cubs lose is more entertaining.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:00 PM
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4. I loved Leo's response and I didn't think it related to Kerry
However, I think there is a point when there is no one else to blame
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