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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:26 PM
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Send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
No man is an island,
entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
a part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manner of thine own
or of thine friend’s were.
Each man’s death diminishes me,
for I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
for whom the bell tolls,
it tolls for thee.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:27 PM
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1. BlueBear you have so much class nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:36 PM
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3. Thanks go, it makes me sad.
Even if one supports the DP, how can one revel in it?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:27 PM
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2. Thanks. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:46 PM
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4. peace h2o nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:08 PM
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5. .
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:09 PM
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6. the complete meditation from john donne:
Meditation XVII
from Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions

Nunc lento sonitu dicunt, morieris.

Now this bell tolling softly for another, says to me, Thou must die.

Perchance he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill as that he knows not it tolls for him;
and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me and see my state may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that.

The church is catholic, universal, so are all her actions; all that she does belongs to all.

When she baptizes a child, that action concerns me;
for that child is thereby connected to that head which is my head too, and ingrafted into the body whereof I am a member.
And when she buries a man, that action concerns me: all mankind is of one author and is one volume;
when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language;
and every chapter must be so translated.

God employs several translators;
some pieces are translated by age, some by sickness, some by war, some by justice;
but God's hand is in every translation, and his hand shall bind up all our scattered leaves again for that library where every book shall lie open to one another.

As therefore the bell that rings a sermon calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come, so this bell calls us all;
but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness.

There was a contention as far as a suit (in which piety and dignity, religion and estimation, were mingled) which of the religious orders should ring to prayers first in the morning;
and it was determined that they should ring first that rose earliest.

If we understand aright the dignity of this bell that tolls for our evening prayer, we would be glad to make it ours by rising early, in that application, that it might be ours as well as his whose indeed it is.

The bell doth toll for him that thinks it doth;
and though it intermit again, yet from that minute that that occasion wrought upon him, he is united to God.

Who casts not up his eye to the sun when it rises?
but who takes off his eye from a comet when that breaks out?

Who bends not his ear to any bell which upon any occasion rings?
but who can remove it from that bell which is passing a piece of himself out of this world?

No man is an island, entire of itself;
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were.

Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind;
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
it tolls for thee.

Neither can we call this a begging of misery or a borrowing of misery, as though we are not miserable enough of ourselves but must fetch in more from the next house, in taking upon us the misery of our neighbors.

Truly it were an excusable covetousness if we did;
for affliction is a treasure, and scarce any man hath enough of it.

No man hath affliction enough that is not matured and ripened by it, and made fit for God by that affliction.

If a man carry treasure in bullion, or in a wedge of gold, and have none coined into current moneys, his treasure will not defray him as he travels.

Tribulation is treasure in the nature of it, but it is not current money in the use of it, except we get nearer and nearer our home, heaven, by it.

Another man may be sick too, and sick to death, and this affliction may lie in his bowels as gold in a mine and be of no use to him;
but this bell that tells me of his affliction digs out and applies that gold to me, if by this consideration of another's dangers I take mine own into contemplation and so secure myself by making my recourse to my God, who is our only security.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:20 PM
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8. Thanks for posting it! nt
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 08:04 PM
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9. We needed that noblock nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:59 AM
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10. The whole thing creeps me out.
Everything else aside, listening to Rita Crosby or whatever her name is huskily announcing 18 times she will be a witness, the death vigil....creepy and inhumane.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:11 PM
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7. "Each man’s death diminishes me,"
Yup!

--IMM
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:36 AM
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11. peace


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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:55 AM
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12. peace, swampy
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:07 AM
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13. Well I hope the bloodlust is over....for a bit.
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:13 AM
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14. Thank you, Bluebear.
We are all diminished...

"A stone, a leaf, an unfound door. Of a stone, a leaf, a door, and of all the forgotten faces.
Naked and alone we came into exile. In her dark womb we did not know our mother's face; from the prison of her flesh we have come into the unspeakable and incommunicable prison of this earth.
Which of us has known his brother? Which of us has looked into his father's heart? Which of us has not remained forever prison-pent? Which of us is not forever a stranger and alone?
O waste of loss, in the hot mazes, lost, among bright stars on this most weary unbright cinder, lost! Remembering speechlessly we seek the great forgotten language, the lost lane-end into heaven, a stone, a leaf, an unfound door. Where? When?
O lost, and by the wind grieved, ghost, come back again."

(Thomas Wolfe "Look Homeward, Angel")
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:15 AM
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15. thank you
gives me chills

:cry:
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