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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:49 PM
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Pat Robertson: A:We've won the war already. B:Criticizing Bush is treason


From the December 7 edition of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club:

ROBERTSON: We've won the war already, and for the Democrats to say we can't win it -- what kind of a statement is that? And furthermore, one of the fundamental principles we have in America is that the president is the commander in chief of the armed forces and attempts to undermine the commander in chief during time of war amounts to treason. I know we have an opportunity to express our points of view, but there is a time when we're engaged in a combat situation that carping criticism against the commander in chief just doesn't cut it. And I think that yes, we have freedom of speech -- of course we do -- but this has gone over the top and I think the Republicans are -- well, they've taken advantage.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512120002
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:51 PM
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1. I think some DUer's should get together and send ole Pat
a nice big HOLY-DAY card stuffed with brochures on emigrating to Venezuela.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:05 PM
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19. If we have "won" the war, the war is over, so no treason is involved in
criticizing the illegal Commander-in-Chief.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:51 PM
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2. Pat, define "win".
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 02:53 PM by patrice
"Republicans have taken advantage"?
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:51 PM
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3. I don't care if we won or not
Spend my tax dollars in the U.S.A.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:52 PM
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4. What a freak....
it will be nicy and toasty where he's going......:evilgrin: I still can't get over the whole Dover, PA rant.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:52 PM
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5. The moon is made of blue cheese
and for the Democrats to say it isn't - what kind of statement is that?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:53 PM
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6. Who's "we" Pat? Been totin' a gun with that bible?
Asshole.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:54 PM
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7. I love free speech but sometimes.......
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:28 PM
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18. If I said...what he says...
I'd not only get booted from DU, I'd have the feebies and the spooks at my door...Hell, I'd probably end up in Gitmo.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:13 PM
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23. I don't know about getting booted from DU, but I think we agree that
we've already done all of the good that we can possibly do in Iraq; it's all diminishing returns from this point (i.e. after these elections) forward. If we value Responsibility and Independence, "standin on one's own feet", and not needing Handouts(!), the U.S. must go Home. Yeah, we've "won". It is now time to define some Type (i.e. Class of Characteristics, a set of general conditions) of an "End" to BushCo's Invasion of Iraq, general traits for which specifics have to be worked out, the end.

Except that what I expect to see will really be something more like Leave without Leaving. PNAC wants their Permanent Bases.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:54 PM
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8. O.K., at this point, even the dumbest, most ignorant PatBot ..
should be getting a clue by now ... that the whole thing is about money, power and politics, and has nothing to do with Christianity.

Anything the Bushies do is Godly, and anything a Democrat does is unGodly. Wow, what a coincidence.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:55 PM
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9. How can that man still claim tax-exempt status?
Has anyone ever filed a formal complaint with the IRS against his "ministry."
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:56 PM
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10. Seconded
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:57 PM
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11. Faith is the opposite of Reason
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 02:58 PM by maxsolomon
eventually, Faith will falter in the light of Reality. many Germans had Faith in the Reich just before VE day, too.

Not that we're a Fascist Empire or anything...
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:59 PM
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12. These kind of people
usually show themselves as what they really are. :puke: :kick:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:02 PM
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13. I agree with Pat 100%!
Now that we've won the war, let's raise the victory flag and get the troops home! Right, Pat? Right?

Oh, and since we've won the war, this can't be a time of war, so criticizing * right now can't be treasonous at all! Right, Pat? Right?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:03 PM
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14. "Since we've won the war, this can't be a time of war"
Priceless smackdown, fellow Granite stater!
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:25 PM
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26. TY ... I try :)
:bows:

Not that I condone violence against old people, but I'd like to put a WWE-style smackdown on his @$$. :evilgrin:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:06 PM
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15. OH BOY!!!! WE HAVE ANOTHER PATWA!!!
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 03:16 PM by Walt Starr
I love it when radical clerics in this country issue their Patwas!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:07 PM
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16. Does Pat even know the meaning of the word treason?
I mean surely it cant be anything like outing a key covert op who could have prevented this meaningless fucking war in the first place, right?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:09 PM
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21. Or selling weapons to a sworn enemy who holds captured Americans prisoner
:shrug: it is only Treason to Disagree with Republicans....
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:13 PM
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25. Or how about declaring an alliance to a brutal African dictator?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 03:14 PM
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17. Hey Pat, make up your alleged mind
Are we at war, or aren't we? If we've "won" why is our military still killing and dying? If we're at war, then we're supposed to look the other way on the president's shortcomings? But if we're not really at war, then it's okay to cut government assistance to the neediest of our fellow citizens? But if we're at war, why aren't you encouraging your audience to sign up for the military?

Does it take special training to talk out of both sides of your mouth at once, Pat?
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:05 PM
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20. PR is the opposite of grace.
Another bedrock Christian Republican without a clue as to where his heart is.

:dunce: :cry:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:12 PM
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22. C: Dissing Pat Robertson is a sacred obligation
God told me so. I heard her voice clearly. I just wish she spoke English.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:17 PM
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24. Didn't Pat say once W didn't get what a war was? Something on God
telling him that they'll be no blood spilled being a delusion? Anyone remembers?
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