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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:13 AM
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How will the fundies react when they find out that Narnia stars...
an icon of gay cinema!

http://www.heavenlycelebrities.com/tilda_swinton.html

"... A tall, delicately beautiful, red-haired English performer, Tilda Swinton has chosen to specialize in non-mainstream films, coming to prominence as the muse of the late British director Derek Jarman. Film theoretician Peter Wollen put Swinton's ethereal, somewhat androgynous presence to good use in his directorial debut, "Friendship's Death" (1987), in which she played an alien android shipwrecked on earth. Swinton's teaming with Jarman began with his biography of Italian painter "Caravaggio" (1986), in which she played a prostitute who transforms herself in a lady, and continued through films including "The Last of England" (1987), in which she memorably sliced up a wedding gown in a windstorm with a pair of garden shears, "The Garden" (1990), as a Madonna. She brilliantly captured the icy hauteur of a woman scorned playing Queen Isabella in Jarman's "Edward II" (1991) but delivered what is probably her best (and best-known) performance as the eponymous hero-turned-heroine of Sally Potter's "Orlando" (1992). In the same film, she also doubled as the young Elizabeth I, prompting reviewers to note her resemblance to portraits of the Virgin Queen.

After a final collaboration with Jarman ("Blue" 1994), Swinton garnered critical attention as a lawyer who undergoes a personality crisis at the height of professional success in "Female Perversions" (1996) and continued in avant-garde films as the pregnant Ada Byron in "Conceiving Ada" (1997). In addition to Jarman, the actress had developed a working relationship with filmmaker John Maybury, starting with a recreation of her stage role of a woman who assumes her dead husband's identity in "Man to Man" (1992). More recently, a nearly unrecognizable Swinton reteamed with Maybury to play an acerbic lesbian in "Love Is the Devil" (1998), a film based on the life of British painter Francis Bacon..."

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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:35 AM
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1. I find it funny and sad that they consider it acceptable for them
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 04:36 AM by Progs Rock
to watch a fantasy film with mythological creatures, simply because it was written by a Christian. I recall all through the 80's how they attacked fantasy books, and roleplaying games such as AD&D because of the imagery--which they deemed evil. I think they did they same with Harry Potter.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:44 AM
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2. Indeed, and witches are so evil according to the Bible, that they must be
stoned (or whatever) yet because Aslan is a Jesus paralell that makes the movie ok. :eyes:
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:22 AM
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4. Your veggie gif is cute.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:57 AM
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9. Thank you, and welcome to DU
:hi:
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gordonlamb Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 04:45 AM
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3. The difference is..
...that CS Lewis made it very, very clear who his characters represented. Lewis would probably be distressed by the Christian fundamentalism that is present in the US, though. He was a pretty liberal Christian.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:12 AM
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7. Yup, I've read ALL of Lewis, and he most definitely was against
Fundamentalist Christianity,a nd definitely against intolerance.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:11 AM
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6. Especially those against Tolkien!
Who was a devout Catholic, and who converted his pal "Jack" Lewis from atheism to Christianity.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:25 AM
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5. Just finished reading the article on the movie in Entertainment Weekly.
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 06:32 AM by Progs Rock
Apparently, to get into character during the filming battle scene, Tilda played Marilyn Manson's cover version of Personal Jesus. Quoting from the article "Swinton believes Wardrobe isn't a timeless spiritual parable, but a timely political one. 'For my money, it's about the imagination of the war child.'" I'll bet they won't like that, either! Oh, and they wrote that the actor who plays Edmund, Skandar Keynes, is a great-great-great-grandson of Charles Darwin.

Apparently, the movie was funded by Walden Media, which was created by a billionaire conservative Christian named Philip Anschutz.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:29 AM
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8. I don't have the quote right now
but Lewis himself said it was story first and allegory second. He seemed impatient with those who put too much stock in the latter.

I personally think that allegory in a book should be left for the reader to discover in the quiet time they think about what they have read. It takes away the sense of discovery, sense of connection with the author, and that lovely feeling that you are a discerning person...if you give it away!

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:10 AM
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10. I recently finished all the Narnia books
Not hard at all, considering they were written for children. I plan on getting my neices the whole series- in hardcover, seperate, in a set, if I can find it.

These stories are for young people. They're very simplistically written, but the story behind the writing is really quite vast in scope. It's almost as if LOTR is nearly "Narnia for adults".

Really, I did love the books. And, yes, they do read very differently as an adult. I'd recommed them, actually, along with LOTR, Harry Potter, and the Goodkind series.

(A word about that last: The Goodkind "Sword of Truth" books ARE NOT FOR KIDS. They are adult fantasies, and very much so- for example, in Temple of the Winds, the two main characters, each helplessly in love with the other, are forced into wedding and bedding two others they hate in order to fulfill the magic required to enter the temple.

The magic required to enter is based in an act of betrayal, in which the person entering betrays everything in which they believe, completely and irrevocably. Yes, there is a whole chapter devoted to the act itself. DEFINITELY not for kids.)

I hate when I digress....
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:16 AM
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11. in the book, don't all the kids come out of the closet?
:rofl:

Technically that's the only way they get into Narnia, right?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:18 AM
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12. Now that's cute
:P
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