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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:38 PM
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Is everyone seeing what I'm seeing? Corporate media is really
laying the thick coat of sugar on iraq this week. AC reporting all week from iraq. CNN doing all kinds of puff pieces. Most other corporate media showing "positive" iraq stories with all of the wonderful progress being made. Even the Nightline special of the "Mothers of the Fallen" had weak representation of mothers who disagreed with the war.

I guess they all have their marching papers and are in lock step formation. Truly disgusting.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:39 PM
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1. Yes, what is up with that?
It is truly disgusting.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:41 PM
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2. Strangely, on Hairball they are really pounding the Bushies right now
on the lies leading up to the Iraq invasion and the Plame case. Schizophrenic Tweety isn't kissing Bush's butt, at least for now.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:42 PM
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4. Very odd indeed. I'm sure it's a momentary lapse. He'll be back to his
old self tomorrow...
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:44 PM
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5. I am seeing this,too...
I have emailed chris many times when he sold his soul to the Administration,but I felt compelled to give him kudos tonight.Face it,he's a media whore.He'll go with the john who has the most to offer.I'd like to think that we had some small impact on the Katrina coverage.If they see the numbers(translate ratings) are there,they will sway that way.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:58 PM
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8. But is anyone watching?
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:58 PM by FreedomAngel82
Maybe this is why all these other stations are doing puff pieces. To keep people looking at that and than when other democrats say the "news" didn't talk about it they can say the person is wrong and point to Matthews.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:42 PM
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3. Did you hear Albright on Meet the Press?
She hopes it's a good Purple Finger Day? I almost fell over. I remember seeing that she signed one of the letters on PNAC. They must have to lay it on thick because they're seeing how quickly they're losing ground with the American people.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:48 PM
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6. I didn't see her, thank goodness. Good purple finger day??? Oh my gosh..
can we get fair and ethical elections here in America, where everyone's vote actually counts? Can we take care of the thousands along the gulf coast that have lost EVERYTHING they have and now face the winter and holidays without homes and most of the basic necessities of life? Can we stop feeding corporate thieves with tax cuts while we have thousands upon thousands who have been or will be laid off of their jobs or denied their pensions after working a lifetime?

The thought that we are concerned about a "good purple finger day" in iraq with all of the chaos we have in our own front door is just utterly baffling to me. I'm literally speechless.

Sorry for the rant...I guess I have always been taught that charity begins at home. And home is what this administration least cares about.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:59 PM
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9. Seriously?
So she was a traitor to Clinton and us?
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:46 AM
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19. I don't know
I don't know Clinton's opinion on PNAC other than he rejected the infamous proposal in 1997 to go after Saddam. I've never heard him speak about it.

Here's the letter she signed.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:07 AM
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12. What exactly are you hoping for?
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 12:07 AM by tx_dem41
Escalation of a bloody civil war?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:57 PM
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7. Poll raitings I betcha
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:57 PM by FreedomAngel82
For Bush. Something else must be going on behind the scenes and/or is about to be exposed. :shrug: Makes one wonder.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:59 PM
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10. The election is this week. And that CAN be a positive thing.
I would think that we, as Democrats specifically and human beings in general, would want it to be a positive event. Or are you praying for a HUGE outbreak of a total, bloody civil war just so you can be right and * can be wrong?

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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:08 AM
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13. Of course it can, and hopefully, the iraqi's can have a functioning
government with a stabilized country devoid of continuous violence.

My problem tx, is that, we have abandoned our own, and have seemingly become more interested in saving the face of this administration by having a "successful election". I have a serious problem with the spending of billions of tax payer dollars, the massive loss of life, and the lies told that led us into war. My biggest problem, however, is that we are forgetting our own. That was the point of my post.

While all of the news media spend countless hours of programming this week covering our attempt to create democracy and stabilize a foreign country, we continually neglect our own. This paints a very disturbing picture of our great country.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:10 AM
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14. The deed is done now though. We can't turn back the clock,
as much as we want to. The best thing that could happen for Iraq and America and the world is that these elections go smoothly and produce a representative government.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:17 AM
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17. very true tx. and let's hope that it does. Indeed we cannot turn back
the clock. But we had better talk about this. If not, we will be doomed to repeat a mistake like this. We cannot ever let this happen again. It is very difficult for anything that is based and grounded in lies to have a successful conclusion. But we can hope. Those who forget the past are certainly doomed to repeat it. None of want a repeat of this.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:04 AM
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11. It is the White House whore network. The WH sez jump
and all three networks say in unison, " How High Boss"

Only the mindless and the minions that can't think for themselves will go to these idiot cable stations.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:12 AM
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15. They got their orders from Rummy: only report happy happy joy joy
No more letting tidbits of reality out.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:14 AM
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16. Someone had sent me the right-wing email
going around - probably written by Rove or somebody - a couple weeks ago - about all of the "good stuff" that has been going on in Iraq that the "liberal" media had not been reporting. And then right after that - the media was right on it - like they gotten the same email or something.

I looked up some of the stuff - like about the schools and stuff - and found out how much Bechtel has been paid to redo the schools and how much they have been NOT doing a good job.

And then of course - you have the problem of journalists not being able to report much outside of the Green Zone, anyway.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:20 AM
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18. it's been mixed, IMO
Nightline has gone down the drain since Koppel left. ABC really has the least amount of spine of all when it comes to standing up to the White House.

NBC and CBS news are in the middle. David Gregory is good at hitting the WH, and also John Roberts. Of the two, I like CBS more lately--they are sugar coating things less. But kudos to NBC for its continuing coverage of the Katrina disaster

MSNBC had a special on jihadists tonight, pointing out how they are in Iraq specifically because we invaded, for no other reason. So people might just put two and two together.

Hardball has been talking about the war and about the CIA leak case, so that's good, even though Tweety is not to be trusted. Olberman is good, but I wish he'd do more in-depth stuff and less silliness.

CNN is a good network for breaking news. But their talk and analysis is poor. Hosts don't bother with background research. It's all pretty shallow.

PBS Newshour gives me the most new information of any one program on TV. It can be very dry, but their Shields and Brooks political wrap-ups are fun.

And lastly: Cspan's Washington Journal has had the most boring RW talking heads on lately! And the callers are very polarized: they either love * or hate him, and both sides say the same things every day.
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