2nd post on anti war candidate just got locked. Can somebody explain what

[oregonindy]

the hell's going on?

are we now freeperville? only party line themes allowed? Were not allowed to call zell lieberman and clinton pro war demopublicans? Please somebody tell me.

my thread on Supporting Steven Greenfield anti-war green party running against Clinton as a democrat just got locked. why?

I'm sending money to the green anti-war candidate Steven Greenfield who is running as a DEMOCRAT!!!!

http://www.greenfieldforsenate.org /
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-11-27-hill...

she and zell lieberman are pro-war demopublicans who need to be replaced.

[Endangered Specie]

1. Well, this isn't "Green Underground"

for one.

[oregonindy]

2. he's running as a DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[...of J.Temperance]

9. Yes but we KNOW he's a Green...he's PRETENDING to be a Democrat

My message to Steven Greenfield is stick it where the sun don't shine...I bet the Freepers are sending Greenfield money too...just like they sent Ralph Nader money and collected signatures for him.

Greenfield is a Green plant...and we're onto his game, he wants Pirro to win because he HATES Hillary Clinton so much, he KNOWS he's never going to win...the point is to defeat Hillary and hand the election to the Repukes with Pirro or if Pirro drops out the Repuke that replaces her.

Green Party = trouble makers.

On Edit: Spelling error.

[madokie]

32. I think you got it right, divide and conquer

:hi:

[...of J.Temperance]

50. That's what they're trying to do, divide and conquer

I want the troops out of Iraq as much as anybody else, but having someone doing their best to defeat Hillary and thus handing the NY Senate seat to the Repukes, just isn't the way to go about it.

:hi:

[leanin_green]

37. Oh, then for him then, he's running as a Greenlite.

As for being trouble makers. Maybe the Party could use a few trouble makers from the those on the left of most of it's centrist-sounding policies.

You know, when it was election time I can remember quite a few on DU begging Green Party voters to vote Democrat. Now that one of them has come over to the camp(even though he esposes many Green stances on the issues)he's labeled as a trouble maker. What do you want, which is it?

[...of J.Temperance]

47. Maybe he's a...GINO

I'm not sure that Greenfield has "come over to the camp". He seems to have one motive and that's to make Hillary lose. I'm not sure that this is "coming over to the camp."

Why don't the Greens ever run against a Repuke candidate, why do they always only run against the Democratic Party candidate?

You know, I'd be ALL for a coalition, like they have in Germany. I'd support the Democratic Party incorporating the Green Party, we share many of the same issues, so we could work on those issues, on the issues that we ALL agree on, and we could work together at doing our best to try to destroy the Repuke Party in as many elections as possible.

The Repukes are the enemy...let's work together to defeat and destroy them.

Greenfield is a trouble-maker, if he's now a Democrat then I'll eat one of my shoes. How is it not being a trouble-maker when his campaign is based on defeating the ONLY Democrat in that NY race that has a chance of winning and thus being re-elected? His presence serves only to jeopardize our chances of keeping the NY Senate seat...we cannot afford to lose another Senate seat.

Why don't the Greens run some Senate candidate against say...Ben Nelson for example in Nebraska?

[NVMojo]

18. I agree with you, if he's running as a Dem.

[Mass]

3. Well - You should have said F* Hillary - This would have gone

a lot better on DU.

[...of J.Temperance]

17. Hey you...

Behave yourself :)

[RoyGBiv]

4. Read the rules ...

You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office. If you wish to work for the defeat of any Democratic candidate in any General Election, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website.

[oregonindy]

5. He's running as a DEMOCRAT! as an anti-war alternative to a pro-war

democrat.

thats not even accepted???

[RoyGBiv]

8. Try this, then ...

Questions about Democratic Underground policies should be emailed to the administrators. Discussion topics pertaining to specific enforcement actions by the moderators are categorically forbidden. Discussion topics relating to Democratic Underground policies, procedures, enforcement, etc., are sometimes permitted if they are respectful and not disruptive to the administration of the website. We reserve the right to lock or delete any such topics for any reason.

[RoyGBiv]

43. P.S.

Since this hasn't been locked yet, I'll take the time to offer a personal response.

I found your OP that was locked, and nothing in the message itself indicated in any way your candidate of choice is running as a Democrat. Now, if you'll forgive the sarcasm, I realize those of us in Flyover, America are supposed to keep up with every little detail of what takes place in Real America, but some of us are lapsed as we have our own local issues to attend. So, I would suggest you don't YELL about supposedly common knowledge when polite instruction might serve you better.

I suspect your original thread was locked for the reason I suggested originally. Without following the link, it does not make clear that you are endorsing a Democrat. You in fact use the term "green" both in the subject and the text itself. One should not be required to follow those links to determine your intent.

[oregonindy]

45. yeah I realize that now. got to typing so quick. lesson learned

[Mass]

6. Well, she is not the nominee yet. The other person is challenging her in

a Democratic primary.

I would not support greenfield if I was in NY State, but why is a dialogue not allowed on this basis, particularly when the poster was respectful.

[Redstone]

11. "Respectful," not "respectuous."

"Respectuous" is not a word. Not in English,, anyway.

Just so you know.

Redstone

[Mass]

15. Thanks.

[insane_cratic_gal]

7. What about Lieberman?

does he count as a democrat?

[lonestarnot]

12. bwwwwwwwwaaaaaa! Good!

[RoyGBiv]

13. I dunno ...

I didn't write the rules, and I'm not paying a lot of attention to this. I just saw one of the locked threads, and from the context of that one comment, it seemed to be a Green v. Dem thing.

Regardless, the second piece of the rules I posted would suffice as reason to lock both these threads, as this one will be fairly soon.

[MSgt213]

14. Wow! What a way to point out a little hypocrisy

[Texasgal]

10. When you have TWO threads locked...

It's time to HANG IT UP.

Don't usk us here on the board, e-mail the admins. It's not difficult!

[MSgt213]

16. You are so right. Never ask a question on a discussion board. Good one.

[Texasgal]

20. Oh PLEASE!

She's had TWO threads locked...when that happens don't you think you should GET A CLUE?

Your running with something that just isn't there...

[Name removed]

27. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Texasgal]

34. Uhhh.... the RULES dictate

that you e-mail the admins with your concerns...jezuz.

Look, I am NOT your enemy, I didn't create the freakin' rules on this board. Bitch at someone else about it...like...ummm... the ADMINS? :eyes:

[Name removed]

40. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Texasgal]

42. Hurt feelings?

Your joking...right?

If she has a LEGITIMATE concern... then she should e-mail the ADMINS and air her concerns... when you have TWO threads locked, it's time to get a clue... something is OBVIOUSLY wrong.

I don't understand why anyone would continue posting the same crap after TWO threads had been locked. Aftre a while it just turns into SPAM.

I really don't understand what the problem is, I was certainly not undermining her concerns,but no one here can help her understand. Go to the admins.... it's pretty simple.

[oregonindy]

19. do I just email them or is there a forum for them? where are their

emails located at?

[Texasgal]

23. Search function?

Not difficult.

[Crunchy Frog]

31. You can find where to email them right here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/contact.html

That would probably be your best bet.

[oregonindy]

36. got it. thanks I just emailed them.

[...of J.Temperance]

22. You can always rely on the Longhorns to make sense :) n/t

[Texasgal]

26. : )

Some people amaze me! :)

[...of J.Temperance]

51. Some people amaze me too...and some people are amazing

:)

[Crunchy Frog]

21. My guess is that this will soon be locked as well.

They don't seem to take too kindly to people posting questions about rules and there enforcements on the board in this fashion.

FWIW, I'd like to see both Hillary and Lieberman replaced as well. I would email the admins and ask for a clarification.

[oregonindy]

25. where are their emails at...this is a first for me.

[RoyGBiv]

29. Link ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

And more detailed rules are found via a link there.

[oregonindy]

30. thank you!

[Crunchy Frog]

35. Right here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/contact.html

[SaveElmer]

24. Possibly look at the discussion rules...

And maybe think about what the name "Democratic Underground" means

" Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office. Democratic Underground is not affiliated with the Democratic Party"

[Smarmie Doofus]

33. Greenfield has registered as a *democrat*. What is more...

that "rule" is loosely and selectively enforced. See my post re. Bloomberg.

[SaveElmer]

38. He is no Democrat...

He is a Green taking advantage of a loophole to run against Hillary...and makes no bones about that

[Jacobin]

49. reminds me of fundies arguing over who is 'saved'

If Hillary the Warmonger and Zell Lieberman are dems, i'll take hell, thank you very much

[Smarmie Doofus]

28. People posted in favor of republican Bloomberg...

in NYC Mayor's race. No one locked or complained.

What's up? I'm supporting Greenfield also. And, unlike Bloomberg, he's a *Democrat*.

[oregonindy]

39. This is bigger than us vs them. Its about supporting the right things we

want and need in our candidates for public office.

I am very angry and frustrated at the pro war politicians on all sides of the aisles and will support with my money anti-war candidates. I do not want in any way to be responsible for the death of either our american troops or iraqis.

We the people are the ones who send our representatives to congress and we the people have to choose from our heart the ones we want to represent us there.

[Cleita]

41. Perhaps you should say he's running as a Democrat.

Many of us are on the same page as the Green Party.

[oregonindy]

44. yeah my bad and at the same time I thought everybody would be behind

an anti war candidate and it wouldnt matter where they came from

[Cleita]

48. You haven't been here long enough to remember the wars

between Greens and Dems back after the 2000 election. It was pretty bitter. Don't feel bad. There are many snarky moments coming to you. This is still a great place for liberals.

[Jacobin]

46. I'll support an anti-war candidate against a DINO

I worked for Gene's campaign in 1968 when LBJ screwed the pooch and escalated Viet Nam.

If Hillary or Holy Joe work to escalate IraqNam, I'll NOT support or work for their campaigns, by damn.

And if there can be no discussion of alternatives to WarMongering Pigs who call themselves dems, then, I'll take my ten zillion posts and resign.

We are talking about DEAD AMERICAN KIDS, goddammit.

[proud patriot]

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