why can't we torture people on our OWN SOIL, instead of offshoring it?

[mopaul]

i don't get it

[SkiGuy]

1. I may be wrong

but I think it's because it is illegal to do it in the US. If that's the case....I'm speechless.

[tocqueville]

3. that's exactly the case

and they have the guts to ask Europe to accept it

[Canuckistanian]

2. Well, there's that pesky "habeus corpus" thing

Those founders of the judicial system really knew how to take the fun out of everything.

[flordehinojos]

4. just to have bush's face appear daily on the television screen is a form

of mental torture--ask the people who want to yell at him, throw shoes at their television sets, flip the t.v. the finger, hurl profanities at it, want to suffocate the living daylights out of the t.v. etc., whenever the bastard boy's face appears on the screen.

i know. i am one of those who does all of the above and more.

[Thtwudbeme]

5. For the same reason we outlawed child and slave labor here

but buy stuff made by children and virtual slaves in other places gleefully.

Merry Fucking Christmas, MoPaul.

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Has Rummie would say

that would be too messy. We don't like to do messy things.

[Hubert Flottz]

7. why can't we torture people on our OWN SOIL?"

Because God is on our side and it wouldn't look good!

[sui generis]

8. it's not torture if someone else does it somewhere else

WE don't torture!!!! (someone else does)

[dogday]

9. Bring in some new jobs for those who have lost theirs

although I don't know how many individuals would line up for a torture gig. Can you imagine going to work every day just to hear people scream and moan in pain? Honestly I thought the USA was a little better than this. this is third world shit, torturing people...

[darkmaestro019]

10. I can imagine it quite clearly and with a very large grin.

But I'm not imagining anyone Middle Eastern on the receiving end.

[mb7588a]

11. Read the Bill of Rights, particularly the 8th Amendment. nt.

[SkiGuy]

12. This makes no sense too

How can Condi go on a say we don't torture yet the prez will veto an anti-torture bill? Am I missing something here?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

13. It's not economic.

American torturers are heavily unionised, and charge a lot more than their third-world equivalents, and there is much more industrial regulation and red tape to deal with. Nowadays, a lot of torture is carried out in sweat-shops in the third world, often by children forced to work extremely long hours in abysmal conditions for very low pay.

You can help improve matters by refusing to accept evidence obtained by torture unless it comes with the FairPain stamp, indicating that the torturers who obtaine it were paid a decent wage and were working in conditions compatible with the UN Convention On Torturer (torturer's rights section).

Remember, you too can do your bit - vote to acquit unless you see the FairPain stamp.

[mopaul]

14. besides, not everyone can be a torturer, it's skilled labor

[1932]

15. because it would result in a law suit and it's probably criminal in most

cases.

They're not confident that, in a criminal trial for assault (or homicide, if the person died), the torturer could get off with a justification defense.