Could Christian Peacemaker Team Hostage Taking Be A Black Flag Op?

[althecat]

On Nov. 29 - i.e. just over a week ago - a Canadian(Toronto), a Canadian/Kiwi(Montreal/Auckland), a Brit(London) and an American (Virginia) (+ an Aussie, missing, that would make 1 member of the UKUSA Treaty Intelligence Arrangement aka ECHELON) are taken hostage in Iraq by the BRIGADE OF THE SWORDS OF RIGHTEOSNESS.

The group, which nobody has heard of before, demand the release of "ALL IRAQI PRISONERS" which is clearly an impossible demand and give the hostages only a few days - TILL TODAY - to arrange this impossible task.

They are from the Christian Peacemaker Team an exceptionally brave group of people that routinely place themselves between the Israeli Defence Force and Palestinian women and children. Seemingly everybody in the PLO including the Al Aqsa Brigdade tell the hostage takers these are good people. Today a leading radical islamic cleric in London, himself regarded as a terrorist by some, says there is "No Religious Justification For The Hostage Taking".

OK AND NOW THE TINFOIL :tinfoilhat:

The death deadline is today.

If you:
- hate Christian Peacemakers who support the PLO;
- want to pull a huge number of western christians behind the war on terror particularly in the pivotally important 5-Power defence arrangement

You couldn't pick a better group of four men to kill.

If the BRIGADE OF THE SWORDS OF RIGHTEOSNESS kill one or all them today then I will be particularly suspicious about these events.

WHY...

BECAUSE a real hostage taker would attempt to milk all the sympathetic publicity that they are getting and use the hostages for all the leverage they are worth.

A BLACK FLAG OP on the other hand will have the talking points and talking heads already lined up for the weekend talk shows.

***** THE VICTIMS ARE *****


Tom Fox, age 54, is from Clearbrook, Virginia and is a dedicated father of two children. For the past two years, Mr. Fox has worked with CPT in partnership with Iraqi human rights organizations to promote peace. Mr. Fox has been faithful in the observance of Quaker practice for 22 years. While in Iraq, he sought a more complete understanding of Islamic cultural richness. He is committed to telling the truth to U.S. citizens about the horrors of war and its effects on ordinary Iraqi civilians and families as a result of U.S. policies and practices. Mr. Fox is an accomplished musician. He plays the bass clarinet and the recorder and he loves to cook. He has also worked as a professional grocer. Mr. Fox devotes much of his time to working with children. He has served as an adult leader of youth programs and worked at a Quaker camp for youth. He has facilitated young people's participation in opposing war and violence. Mr. Fox is a quiet and peaceful man, respectful of everyone, who believes that "there is that of God in every person" which is why work for peace is so important to him.


Norman Kember, age 74, is from London, England. He and his wife of 45 years have two married daughters and a 3-year old grandson. He has been a pacifist all his life beginning with his work in a hospital instead of National Service at age 18. Before his retirement he was a professor teaching medical students at St Bartholemew's Hospital in London. He is well known as a peace activist, and has been involved in several peace groups. For the past 10 years he has volunteered with a local program providing free food to the homeless. He likes walking, birdwatching, and writing humorous songs and sketches. In his younger days he enjoyed mountaineering.


James Loney, 41, is a community worker from Toronto, Canada. He has been a member of Christian Peacemaker Teams since August 2000, and is currently the Program Coordinator for CPT Canada. On previous visits to Iraq, his work focused on taking testimonies from families of detainees for CPT's report on detainee abuse, and making recommendations for securing basic legal rights. James was leading the November 2005 delegation in Iraq when he went missing. James is a peace activist, writer, trained mediator, and works actively with two Toronto community conflict resolution services. He has spent many years working to provide housing and support for homeless people. In a personal statement from James to CPT, he writes: “I believe that our actions as a people of peace must be an expression of hope for everyone. My hope in practising non-violence is that I can be a conduit for the transformative power of God's love acting upon me as much as I hope it will act upon others around me.”


Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32 is a Canadian electrical engineer from Montreal. He studdied at McGill University and is now working on a masters degree in English literature inAuckland University in New Zealand to prepare for a teaching career. He enjoys art, is active in squash and worked part time as a local squash coach. His family describes him as peaceful and fun-loving and he is known to be passionate about the plight of the underprivileged around the globe. He works tirelessly in his spare time to educate and help others.

ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE HORSES MOUTH...
http://www.cpt.org/

COVERAGE OF THE KIWI ANGLE (This is our first ever Iraqi Hostage)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/

SCOOP.CO.NZ EDITORIAL
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00085.htm

[formercia]

1. That was my first thought

The insurgents have no reason to harm these people.

[Tom Joad]

2. Certainly the US govt hates these human rights activists.

The Israeli government also.

It is quite possible for an Iraqi group to get things all wrong, but i do think it is quite possible that the US can be aiding this operation. The US government is known for killing journalists, why not human rights activists?

[Delphinus]

3. Maybe not so tinfoil hat.

After reading that the CPT was heavily responsible/involved for us knowing about the abuse at Abu Ghraib, I figured it was our guys (or someone we hired) to take care of them.

[mattclearing]

4. That was the first thing I thought.

I have been waiting for attacks on the peace movement with an intent to have us all fall in line. First Botulinum on 9/24, and now this.

[althecat]

16. What's this 9/24 Botulinum reference?

... must have missed it...

[mattclearing]

24. During the Peace March in DC, Biohazard sensors picked up

positive readings for botulinum toxin.

[althecat]

25. Yes I remember now... we reported that too...

[progressivebydesign]

5. Didn't an insurgent group supposedly kill that female aid worker?

Margaret (?) who was married to an Iraqi. I can't even begin to comprehend all of this, or pretend to know who is behind what. I think there are many, many, things that we'll never know, and would scare us to death if we found out.

[althecat]

6. I pray that this is not true - for the sake of the hostages.

However on the basis of all the other suspicious events in recent years it must be a distinct possibility.

The BBC is reporting that direct contact has been made with the Hostage Takers by UK diplomats.

[althecat]

7. AL JAZEERA - Death Deadline Extended Till Saturday

http://www.wral.com/apworldnews/5486647/detail.html
&
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00089.htm

[annabanana]

8. that's good news...

The more contact, the less able to execute, regardless of flag.

[althecat]

9. Yes very good news....

[rman]

10. rather likely, i'd say. nt

one of my first thoughts was: oh sure, Bush really wants to help those peace activists.

[Behind the Aegis]

11. What do you think now?

In light of the extension, do you now think that they could have really taken by 'honest to G-d" terrorists?

[althecat]

12. All we can do is wait and see....

And in the end we will probably never know.

Ultimately I think that if these Swords of Righteousness are the real thing then they will let the hostages go.

So if that happens then that would tend to indicate one way.

However even if they do let them go it doesn't mean it wasn't a Black Flag op. Tis impossible to prove a negative really - especially if that negative has deniability and invisibility built in as an operational requirement.

...& that is why Black Flag Ops are potentially so effective. Even if busted the vast majority of the conned public will never know or probably even suspect.

[althecat]

13. Spooky...

From what I can see I posted this at approx the exact same time Al Jazeera broadcast the extension news.

:tinfoilhat:

[gratuitous]

14. IF they've been taken in some black flag operation

Then they're probably deader than doornails already. CPTers, in my personal experience, don't scare easily. If they get a feeling that their captors are actually agents of the U.S. government trying to scare them out of Iraq, they're not going to knuckle under. If their captors are agents of our government trying to frighten the CPTers, they'll find it a lot easier to just kill them.

Art Gish is on his way over there now (if he hasn't arrived already). I have the highest confidence in his abilities.

[althecat]

15. Who's Art Gish...

.. and please forgive my ignorance

.. as for being already dead that is one of the things that worrys me. If there is a risk that the Swords have exposed themselves to the CPTers as being something other than real insurgents then the operation, whatever it is, will not be able to let them go. Hopefully if they are bad bad people then they are also more professional than that.

Strikes me that we could yet end up with one of those weird situations like the return of the Italian Journalist during which the bodyguard was shot. Convoy returning with released hostages gets targetted by an IED... etc

[gratuitous]

18. A CPTer from the Church of the Brethren

And an amazing fellow. Looks like an Old Testament prophet with his long whiskers and no mustache. I think he's in his 70s, and has an energy level that puts me to shame. I poked around the internet and came up with this photo from the Fellowship of Reconciliation:

[althecat]

21. So he is going to Iraq to get the hostages back?

[gratuitous]

22. He has many years experience in the Middle East

I don't know what kind of "pull" he has with any official agencies, but he's the guy I'd want to come for me if I was in the hostages' situation.

[dutchdemocrat]

17. The video first appeared on the Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) Website

Islamic Army in Iraq

Mothertongue Name: al-Jaish al-Islami fi al-Iraq

Base of Operation: Iraq

Founding Philosophy: The Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) is a significant Iraqi terrorist entity, which is currently in operation. The group has initiated a brutally violent campaign against foreigners within Iraq, specifically anyone believed to be cooperating with the U.S.-led coalition. IAI has been implicated in several gruesome beheading deaths. The terrorist group aims to drive all U.S. and its related coalition forces, both military and civilian, from Iraq. But IAI does not limit its attacks to just these groups; it has also murdered French journalists, Pakistani contractors, an Italian journalist, and Macedonian citizens working for a U.S. company.

Often, IAI will kidnap an individual or group of people and then make an overarching demand. Frequently, these demands are indirectly related to the kidnapping victims. For example, IAI captured Enzo Baldoni, an Italian journalist who also volunteered for the Red Cross in Iraq. IAI demanded that Italy withdraw all troops from Iraq or Enzo Baldoni, both an independent journalist and humanitarian volunteer, would be killed. Italy did not recall its troops and Baldoni was murdered. This is a common tactic of IAI. The Islamic Army in Iraq has also attacked French civilians in retaliation for France’s law regarding headscarves in schools. IAI does not limit its terrorist attacks to non-Iraqis; the group has also executed Iraqi people who join Iraq’s police and military services.

Current Goals: According to the leader of the Islamic Army in Iraq, the group has thousands of terrorists in its ranks. The group’s leader also claims that the group is predominantly Iraqi, not foreign-born. Statements released in November 2004 announced that the Islamic Army in Iraq has collaborated with Ansar al-Sunnah and the terrorist network of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, known then as Tawhid and Jihad and now as Tanzim Qa'idat Al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn.

In April 2005, the Islamic Army in Iraq announced the formation of the “al-Aqsa Support Division.” Referring to the al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, this group is meant to support Palestinians in their armed struggle against Israel. Its formation was brought about by rumors circulating in Iraq of a plot to tear down the holy Mosque. It is unknown at this time if the al-Aqsa Support Division has active contacts with terrorist groups in Israel or the Occupied Territories or if it is simply a rhetorical formation.

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=4375


http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/december/ogrish-dot-com-4_western_hostages_in_iraq_video_video3_1.wmv">Latest Video1
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/december/ogrish-dot-com-4_western_hostages_in_iraq_video_video3_2.wmv">Latest Video2

[althecat]

19. Well in that case the Swords may find themselves a bit conflicted.....

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=4375
In April 2005, the Islamic Army in Iraq announced the formation of the “al-Aqsa Support Division.” Referring to the al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, this group is meant to support Palestinians in their armed struggle against Israel. Its formation was brought about by rumors circulating in Iraq of a plot to tear down the holy Mosque. It is unknown at this time if the al-Aqsa Support Division has active contacts with terrorist groups in Israel or the Occupied Territories or if it is simply a rhetorical formation.


... Vs ....

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0512/S00122.htm
The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades on December 4th: "Those are the same friends of the martyr Rachel Corrie who was crushed under an Israeli bulldozer as she stood in the defence of our people and her friends against the Israeli Zionist occupation. We came to know them as they took a courageous stance against the new system of apartheid and the racist separation Wall. They suffered as we did, and were wounded by the bullets of the occupation, while others were exiled and imprisoned. Therefore, we ask the kidnappers to release those hostages."

[althecat]

20. Also... where does it say that the vid first appeared there?

Thanks DD

[dutchdemocrat]

23. Intelligence forums

The original doc file that accompanied the video was also the same author 'mmm' (file properties) as the other releases from IAI.

[althecat]

26. And IAI has just now executed a security contractor hostage...

Iraq group says killed U.S. hostage

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=fundLaunches&storyID=2005-12-08T162642Z_01_BAU859152_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-HOSTAGE-KILLING.xml

DUBAI (Reuters) - The Islamic Army in Iraq insurgent group said on Thursday it had killed a U.S. security consultant, according to an Internet statement.

The group said the man was killed because the U.S. government did not fulfill its demands, which included the payment of compensation to Iraqis affected by U.S. attacks.

The statement's authenticity could not be verified and no pictures or video accompanied the statement. It was posted on a Web site often used by insurgents.

[Loonman]

27. False flag

Black Flag is a punk band that featured Henry Rollins and Greg Ginn.

[althecat]

29. Sometimes you wish there was a special edit button

.. for screwups like that....

[althecat]

28. New Videos To Accompany Extension - From Swords Of Righteousness

Briton Norman Kember

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00110.htm

American Thomas Fox

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00109.htm

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