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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:15 PM
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You people need to learn the phrase "Reject the Premise"
"Reject the Premise" means that you don't even accept the assuptions inherent in the question.

Example:

"Who divides the Democratic Party more, Dean or Lieberman?"

Answer: I reject the premise of the question, the party is not divided.

Example:

"Here is a good response email to the war on christmas"

Answer: I reject the premise of the question, there is no war on christmas.


Its like me asking "Are you still beating your children?" And a lot of you fall for it every time.

Seriously, people. Knock it off.

:)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:17 PM
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1. Actually ScooterKen, the question is traditionally:
"So when did you stop beating your wife?" as the "leading" question.
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The Whiskey Priest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:18 PM
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3. Guilty as charged

Sometimes…it is like a old fire horse hearing the bell…I race off with thinking about the premise…knee jerk reaction leads you off in to a logical swamp…when you could have stayed on the high ground.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:14 PM
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33. Kinda like when Bush heard 'terrerist in Iraq' whispered in his ear after
Sept 11, 2001, huh ?
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:24 PM
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4. This is Lakoff's point in "Don't think of an elephant"
highly recommended book on re-framing the argument and discussion.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:40 PM
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11. Douglas Adams illustrated the point with Dirk Gently.
The character emphatically denied the rumors that he was somehow psychic, thereby convincing people he was.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:24 PM
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5. One premise that should be rejected here is... How to win the war...
when the US has no business conducting the war, it is illegal, immoral.
It is not so much a problem of how it is discussed here, but that Dems in Congress keep telling us "they have a better plan" or "We should set benchmarks for success" or some such crapola.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:04 PM
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24. "You can't win a war crime"
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 04:05 PM by glitch
got that from DUer Solly Mack.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:57 PM
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30. It isn't a "war"
simple...
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:24 PM
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6. Lordy, that is sooooo Republican....
I've been listening to those SOBs on program after program use that phrase. It sounds like they are still practicing for debate class in high school. When I hear "I reject the premise", my reaction is "So effin' what." That's what we need to learn to say.
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:25 PM
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7. Rejecting the premise of a biased or false question is neither
Republican or Democrat, its simply intelligent.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:32 PM
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9. "Rejecting the premise" as it is used now is not intelligent. It has
become a device to detract from what is a response someone does not like or information that is inconvenient. Listen to some of these bozos and how they use it. I don't want us to adopt the use of similar or the same language that the right wing uses routinely--because it is being misused. We need our own phraseology--and time to let the memory of those misused and tortured terminologies of Newtism fade.
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:36 PM
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10. You are accepting the premise....
... that the Republicans own the phrase.

Shame on you.

That is just what they want.

I don't care if we use the words or not. We need to perform the action. We need to reject the stupid assumptions that get us into meaningless and fruitless arguements.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:40 PM
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12. So what is passive about telling an R that you don't care what
he/she says, the words that follow are the truth? That certainly is active.

BTW, the language used currently in political discourse, the public does currently associate with the Rs and with good reason. Newtie trained them well. I want those uses to hang around the Republican Party's neck like an albatross.
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:43 PM
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15. I learned the phrase "reject the premise" from West Wing
Josh (Bradley Whitfords character) said it in one of the episodes.

Republicans own nothing. If you ask me:

"Who divides the Dem party more, Lieberman or Dean?"

I will answer:

"Invalid question, the party isn't divided, next question."

I don't need to use the words, but by rejecting the premise, my statement is not just strong, its nuclear.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:48 PM
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18. Instead of using debate devices, what is wrong with doing something novel,
like use plainspeak. What is wrong with speaking truth in plain and simple language so that even the most uneducated and unsophisticated among us understand the full extent of what is being said and can feel comfortable participating in discourse. Plainspeak eliminates the need for parsing and reduces the chance that you will be accused of doing so. Nothing is more clear that saying "That's BS." "Rejecting the premise" is playing the game. Reject the game.
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:52 PM
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20. The "game" is politics, and the point is...
... to "win". You don't go on TV and say "That's B.S." Politicans do, in fact, need to be thought of as non-crude, intelligent people.

I am sick and tired of liberals trying to appear "more simple" to the American people. Screw the morons that don't understand sophistication, they are going to vote Republican anyway. We need to show people we have a brain, unlike the Republicans.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:59 PM
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22. And I'm sick of game-playing. It is disingenuous and has gotten
us where we are today. Being manipulative does not need brainpower. Playing with devices does not take intellect. Politics should be demoted from its game status because the feints and parrys usually only hurt those without weapons to defend themselves. We complain about the lies and deceipts today and the caginess of those who trot them out there--why should we mimic them. There is nothing more complicated and unrefutable than simple truth. Did you hear those ladies from NO yesterday at the House Select Committee hearing? That is how it is done. No rejected premises. I heard a woman say to a politician, "I answered you in my own words." Shays couldn't respond, didn't know how to respond. She told him the truth and it didn't fit his jargon and formalized speaking expectations. That is how it is done.
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:02 PM
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23. I dont think you are saying anything differently than I am at this point
I think we simply need to be smarter about what we accept and what we reject as issues. How we say it is what you seem to be talking about, and really, I don't care if we say it one way or the other.

I do, however, think we should never shy away from letting Americans know that we are the highly educated, highly intelligent Party. Hiding our intelligence behind purposeful simplification is just as underhanded and false as the slick verbal gymnastics of the Republicans.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:42 PM
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38. Being Manipulatiion Is Being Successful. Understanding Psychology Is How
you win. Knowing what buttons to push and how to push them. That is what Art is all about.

You can have the best freaking product in the world but without decent packaging, it most likely won't fly.

Similiarly, you can have the crappiest product in the world but with a brilliant packaging and marketing, you can sell it to just about anyone (think Rove selling Bush to the public).

Human psychology is a fact. Knowing the principles of how it works and then USING those principles is extrememly important.

For instance, saying "it's the economy stupid" doesn't work well because people are primarily concerned with their families more than money. Talk to them about how Family Values include earning a living wage and then you're cooking.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:31 PM
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8. One of my favorite examples of the "premise."
way back when I was a young sailor, two senior guys were bitching at each other about some work project which was behind schedule, and every effort was being made to blame each other. Finally one said, "is my dick the sweetest one you ever sucked?" To wit, the response, "fuck no!" A great fight ensued.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:43 PM
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14. Wonderful yarn, Bosshog - premise or not!!!!
:toast:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:42 PM
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13. "You people need to learn ..."
I reject your command.

Not a good way to start a conversation/ dialog. My fingers went in my ears after the first five words of your post.

You sound like my freeper brother.

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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:44 PM
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16. You'll get over it.
:)
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:49 PM
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19. I think you are in the wrong place -
bullies post elsewhere.
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:53 PM
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21. Don't you know that smily faces make everything O.K. ?
:D
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:47 PM
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17. Thanks, very helpful n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:09 PM
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25. Good point, but why do you hate America?
:)
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:10 PM
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26. Hehehe
:)
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:30 PM
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27. Yes! Yes! --- But, simply denying the premise isn't enough
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 04:31 PM by pat_k
Denying the premise alone is not sufficient (When you simply deny, you fall into the "Don't think of an elephant" trap. The game remains on their turf.)

Figuring out a response that "moves the game" to our turf is needed.

For example, on the supposed divisions on a "plan" for Iraq:

Positions on this or that "plan" don't mean much when the Executive branch is occupied by people that are incapable of doing anything but more damage.

Step 1 of any plan is to face facts about the current occupants of the executive branch.

They've lied and terrorized the American people with their threats of a mushroom cloud. They've abused power. Their failures have been criminal negligence and their actions have been just plain criminal. Citizens across this nation have long known this, but they are no longer voices in the wilderness. We are all seeing the truth.

The criminality and incompetence of this regime cannot be tolerated. That's the grim reality.

Facing these facts demands action: Impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

These are dangerous people that must be disarmed. Not in 2006. Not in 2008. Now.

Supporting the pretense of their legitimacy by offering "plans" to them, rather then fighting for Impeachment and removal from office, is to be complicit with their actions.

A majority of this country believes their lies and threats are Impeachable offenses. People are beginning to raise their voices, and their calls for Impeachment will overshadow the positions currently taken by leaders of either party.



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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:39 PM
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28. one of repub's favorite logical fallacies
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 04:40 PM by rman
there are many more (thanks BrotherBuzz);



Understanding common Logic Fallacies is an art and a vaulable tool
Sat Dec-03-05 08:19 PM by BrotherBuzz

When arguing with someone in an attempt to get at an answer or an explanation, you may come across a person who makes logical fallacies. Such discussions may prove futile. You might try asking for evidence and independent confirmation or provide other hypothesis that give a better or simpler explanation. If this fails, try to pinpoint the problem of your arguer's position. You might spot the problem of logic that prevents further exploration and attempt to inform your arguer about his fallacy. The following briefly describes some of the most common fallacies (I'm not sure why, but most RW talkshow hosts resort to logic fallacies all the time. My sport is catching them in the act ):



ad hominem: Latin for "to the man." An arguer who uses ad hominems attacks the person instead of the argument. Whenever an arguer cannot defend his position with evidence, facts or reason, he or she may resort to attacking an opponent either through: labeling, straw man arguments, name calling, offensive remarks and anger.



appeal to ignorance (argumentum ex silentio) appealing to ignorance as evidence for something. (e.g., We have no evidence that God doesn't exist, therefore, he must exist. Or: Because we have no knowledge of alien visitors, that means they do not exist). Ignorance about something says nothing about its existence or non-existence.



argument from omniscience: (e.g., All people believe in something. Everyone knows that.) An arguer would need omniscience to know about everyone's beliefs or disbeliefs or about their knowledge. Beware of words like "all," "everyone," "everything," "absolute."



appeal to faith: (e.g., if you have no faith, you cannot learn) if the arguer relies on faith as the bases of his argument, then you can gain little from further discussion. Faith, by definition, relies on a belief that does not rest on logic or evidence. Faith depends on irrational thought and produces intransigence.



appeal to tradition (similar to the bandwagon fallacy): (e.g., astrology, religion, slavery) just because people practice a tradition, says nothing about its viability.



argument from authority (argumentum ad verecundiam): using the words of an "expert" or authority as the bases of the argument instead of using the logic or evidence that supports an argument. (e.g., Professor so-and-so believes in creation-science.) Simply because an authority makes a claim does not necessarily mean he got it right. If an arguer presents the testimony from an expert, look to see if it accompanies reason and sources of evidence behind it.



argument from adverse consequences: (e.g., We should judge the accused as guilty, otherwise others will commit similar crimes) Just because a repugnant crime or act occurred, does not necessarily mean that a defendant committed the crime or that we should judge him guilty. (Or: disasters occur because God punishes non-believers; therefore, we should all believe in God) Just because calamities or tragedies occur, says nothing about the existence of gods or that we should believe in a certain way.



argumentum ad baculum: An argument based on an appeal to fear or a threat. (e.g., If you don't believe in God, you'll burn in hell)



argumentum ad ignorantiam: A misleading argument used in reliance on people's ignorance.



argumentum ad populum: An argument aimed to sway popular support by appealing to sentimental weakness rather than facts and reasons.



bandwagon fallacy: concluding that an idea has merit simply because many people believe it or practice it. (e.g., Most people believe in a god; therefore, it must prove true.) Simply because many people may believe something says nothing about the fact of that something. For example many people during the Black plague believed that demons caused disease. The number of believers say nothing at all about the cause of disease.



begging the question (or assuming the answer): (e.g., We must encourage our youth to worship God to instill moral behavior.) But does religion and worship actually produce moral behavior?



circular reasoning: stating in one's proposition that which one aims to prove. (e.g. God exists because the Bible says so; the Bible exists because God influenced it.)



composition fallacy: when the conclusion of an argument depends on an erroneous characteristic from parts of something to the whole or vice versa. (e.g., Humans have consciousness and human bodies and brains consist of atoms; therefore, atoms have consciousness. Or: a word processor program consists of many bytes; therefore a byte forms a fraction of a word processor.)



confirmation bias (similar to observational selection): This refers to a form of selective thinking that focuses on evidence that supports what believers already believe while ignoring evidence that refutes their beliefs. Confirmation bias plays a stronger role when people base their beliefs upon faith, tradition and prejudice. For example, if someone believes in the power of prayer, the believer will notice the few "answered" prayers while ignoring the majority of unanswered prayers (which would indicate that prayer has no more value than random chance at worst or a placebo effect, when applied to health effects, at best).



confusion of correlation and causation: (e.g., More men play chess than women, therefore, men make better chess players than women. Or: Children who watch violence on TV tend to act violently when they grow up.) But does television programming cause violence or do violence oriented children prefer to watch violent programs? Perhaps an entirely different reason creates violence not related to television at all. Stephen Jay Gould called the invalid assumption that correlation implies cause as "probably among the two or three most serious and common errors of human reasoning" (The Mismeasure of Man).



excluded middle (or false dichotomy): considering only the extremes. Many people use Aristotelian either/or logic tending to describe in terms of up/down, black/white, true/false, love/hate, etc. (e.g., You either like it or you don't. He either stands guilty or not guilty.) Many times, a continuum occurs between the extremes that people fail to see. The universe also contains many "maybes."



half truths (suppressed evidence): An statement usually intended to deceive that omits some of the facts necessary for an accurate description.



loaded questions: embodies an assumption that, if answered, indicates an implied agreement. (e.g., Have you stopped beating your wife yet?)



meaningless question: (e.g., "How high is up?" "Is everything possible?") "Up" describes a direction, not a measurable entity. If everything proved possible, then the possibility exists for the impossible, a contradiction. Although everything may not prove possible, there may occur an infinite number of possibilities as well as an infinite number of impossibilities. Many meaningless questions include empty words such as "is," "are," "were," "was," "am," "be," or "been."



misunderstanding the nature of statistics: (e.g., the majority of people in the United States die in hospitals, therefore, stay out of them.) "Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive." -- Wallace Irwin



non sequitur: Latin for "It does not follow." An inference or conclusion that does not follow from established premises or evidence. (e.g., there occured an increase of births during the full moon. Conclusion: full moons cause birth rates to rise.) But does a full moon actually cause more births, or did it occur for other reasons, perhaps from expected statistical variations?



observational selection (similar to confirmation bias): pointing out favorable circumstances while ignoring the unfavorable. Anyone who goes to Las Vegas gambling casinos will see people winning at the tables and slots. The casino managers make sure to install bells and whistles to announce the victors, while the losers never get mentioned. This may lead one to conclude that the chances of winning appear good while in actually just the reverse holds true.



post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Latin for "It happened after, so it was caused by." Similar to a non sequitur, but time dependent. (e.g. She got sick after she visited China, so something in China caused her sickness.) Perhaps her sickness derived from something entirely independent from China.



proving non-existence: when an arguer cannot provide the evidence for his claims, he may challenge his opponent to prove it doesn't exist (e.g., prove God doesn't exist; prove UFO's haven't visited earth, etc.). Although one may prove non-existence in special limitations, such as showing that a box does not contain certain items, one cannot prove universal or absolute non-existence, or non-existence out of ignorance. One cannot prove something that does not exist. The proof of existence must come from those who make the claims.



red herring: when the arguer diverts the attention by changing the subject.



reification fallacy: when people treat an abstract belief or hypothetical construct as if it represented a concrete event or physical entity. Examples: IQ tests as an actual measure of intelligence; the concept of race (even though genetic attributes exist), from the chosen combination of attributes or the labeling of a group of people, come from abstract social constructs; Astrology; god(s); Jesus; Santa Claus, etc.



slippery slope: a change in procedure, law, or action, will result in adverse consequences. (e.g., If we allow doctor assisted suicide, then eventually the government will control how we die.) It does not necessarily follow that just because we make changes that a slippery slope will occur.



special pleading: the assertion of new or special matter to offset the opposing party's allegations. A presentation of an argument that emphasizes only a favorable or single aspect of the question at issue. (e.g. How can God create so much suffering in the world? Answer: You have to understand that God moves in mysterious ways and we have no privilege to this knowledge. Or: Horoscopes work, but you have to understand the theory behind it.)



statistics of small numbers: similar to observational selection (e.g., My parents smoked all their lives and they never got cancer. Or: I don't care what others say about Yugos, my Yugo has never had a problem.) Simply because someone can point to a few favorable numbers says nothing about the overall chances.



straw man: creating a false scenario and then attacking it. (e.g., Evolutionists think that everything came about by random chance.) Most evolutionists think in terms of natural selection which may involve incidental elements, but does not depend entirely on random chance. Painting your opponent with false colors only deflects the purpose of the argument.



two wrongs make a right: trying to justify what we did by accusing someone else of doing the same. (e.g. how can you judge my actions when you do exactly the same thing?) The guilt of the accuser has no relevance to the discussion.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:02 PM
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31. This quip sums a lot of it up
"You either agree with me or you are a complete a-hole, wouldn't you agree?"

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:21 PM
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35. And don't forget 'reductio ad absurdum', a favorite of theirs...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contradiction

""As a figure of speech

Among some people, there is a misconception that reductio ad absurdum just means "a silly argument".

In general practice, a reductio ad absurdum is a tactic in which the logic of an argument is challenged by reducing the concept to its most absurd extreme. It is thus often similar in nature to the slippery slope logical fallacy.

For example:

A — I don't think the police should arrest teenagers for soft drug possession.
B — So, you are basically arguing the police should not enforce the law and we should live in a society of violent anarchy.

See also appeal to ridicule, which is another type of logical fallacy.""

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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:29 PM
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36. The Strawman is a particular favorite of the GOP.
It's also very easy to knock the crap out of your opponent in a debate when you knowingly misstate their position.

Speaking of debate, aren't nearly all of these tactics illegal in competitive debate? How nice would it be to have Presidential debates governed by the same rules?

Imagine... 2004 Kerry vs. Bush... Bush opens his mouth, and the moment he spews his bullshit, you hear a buzzer and his mic gets turned off for 30 seconds. Second infraction? 1 minute. Third foul, and he's escorted from the stage, forfeiting the debate.

Make this happen, League of Women Voters... DEBATE REFEREES!

-MR
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:40 PM
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37. It's a favorite of a lot of DUers, as well.
:shrug: ... along with ad hominem and ad hominem abusive.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:54 PM
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39. Formal debate is sorely lacking
practically everywhere. Especially from the public debate (as directed by the mainstream media) and presidential debates.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:55 PM
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29. With your permission
I am going to use this 'reject the premise' concept in my next article. Spot on. May I use it?
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:18 PM
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41. No need to ask, I posted it in a public forum :)
:)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:23 PM
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42. Thanks.
:toast:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:05 PM
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32. excellent. i couldnt agree with you more.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 05:05 PM by seabeyond
i have been fighting this for the longest of times. so much how the repugs and media get the dems
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:16 PM
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34. Good point
Thanks. We do have a tendency to chase our Democratic tail, don't we.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:08 PM
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40. The art of debate. It's wonderful! You are so right!! n/t
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:36 PM
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43. I think we had all better learn this and other tactics to win the game.
I am bookmarking this thread as there are many good debating tips on it. The reject the premise is definitely a good one - thanks.

k & r
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ScooterKen Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:33 AM
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44. When you say bookmarking....
.. do you simply mean in your browser or is there a way to do it, like, with the board?

Just curious, I don't really want a lot of bookmarks in my browser but would like a way to "tag" posts on this board and then sorta "find" them later on.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:44 PM
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46. you can bookmark threads by clicking on "Bookmark this thread"
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 03:46 PM by cry baby
right above any post in the thread on the left side. Then when you want to look at your bookmarked threads, just go to the icon at the top that says "options". That will give you a list of options at the left, one of which is "view your bookmarks".

Try it and tell me if it works for you.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:35 AM
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45. A war based on lies and
proposed solutions and reasons for it based on lies are dividing the party.
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