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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:17 AM
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Poll question: Why don't most people care about the criminal OIL motive for the Iraq War?
The basic outline of the oil motive is inescapable:

When we invaded, we cancelled Saddam's contracts with the Russians, French, and others, and not just replaced them, but de-nationalized Iraq's oil, so that our companies could take a greater share of the profits from Iraq's oil.

PNAC, former national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, and pretty much any serious foreign policy player has discussed the importance of controlling the natural resources, especially oil of Eurasia, in scholarly articles, speeches before think tanks, and books. The world's oil supply is declining, and the companies that control the spigot where it will dry up last can control the economies of countries that need oil--and reap unimaginable profits.

Unfortunately, it's already obvious that power won't be used for the benefit of average Americans.

You can see a timeline with the relevant documents and interviews with government, oil industry, and occupation leaders here:

http://www.gregpalast.com/iraqmeetingstimeline.html

And the final plan the oil companies are pushing for now:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2005/crudedesigns.htm

Why don't most people care or talk about this?
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:30 AM
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1. No one wants to imagine a world without cars
Big cars, cool cars, expensive cars, fat cars, cars with back seats to make out in, cars when you're rich enough you can buy your wife with a big red bow on top, cars for vacations, cars for offices, cars to drive the kids to soccer practice, cars to get where you want to go fast, cars to make you feel good about yourself.

Driving is a religion, and gasoline is god.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:36 AM
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2. Sadly, by ignoring the issue, we are MORE likely to lose them
Ignoring oil is like ignoring the Arab world before 9/11--just because you aren't looking at it doesn't mean it can't bite you on the ass.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:45 AM
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3. It's not just what people want, though, it's by design.
How many of you live somewhere that you can walk everywhere you need to go in an average week? How many of you live somewhere with good, safe public transportation? Chicago is the first place I've been to where I could even think of not owning a car (not that it's the only place, I know). A big part of the problem is that city and county commissions don't regulate and zone for development to build a community less dependant on car ownership, they do so to prevent sewage treatment plants from being built near rich people. They allow four square miles to be paved over to build a MegaSuperOmniMart on the outskirts of town in order to raise the property value of their developer buddy's housing project near by it (but not really near enough to walk, besides you'll need the trunk space). They count on the average working stiff to be too preoccupied with other things than to get involved with the process, and they usually can.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:12 PM
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4. that sums up the whole political process, often of both parties: CRONYISM
uber alles.

It drives me nuts at a local level too.

I teach college, and every district's elected board of trustees is worried about just one thing: throwing building and other contracts to their friends. Classes can be cut, faculty fired or not offered health insurance, but the new building must go on.

It's like a fucking neutron bomb of cronyism.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:26 PM
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5. the number of replies (or lack thereof) reinforces the point
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 01:26 PM by yurbud
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