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Excerpt: CIA plane spotting

Exclusive: Images of planes, which human rights groups believe are chartered by the CIA to fly terror suspects to secret prison sites, landing at British airports.

It can't be often that the worlds of plane-spotting and secret intelligence collide, but tonight we have exclusive images of what are alleged to be CIA flights, camouflaged as civilian aircraft, landing and refuelling in British airports.

The very same aircraft thought to be used to ferry US terror suspects around the world - sometimes to states with track records in torture.

Other EU countries have turned away these planes - the British government says they're civilian flights, and aren't required to divulge who or what they're carrying. John Sparks reports for More4 News.

[wixomblues]

1. Ummm.....They sure look like civillian flights.

[leftchick]

5. that is the point

the only way they have been tracked is by the bogus numbers. Or companies connected to the bogus numbers.

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9. Like Hercules N8183J?

See:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,387185,00.html

Also:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,388550,00.html

[hiley]

2. such shame is brought

onto us by this evil practice.

[hiley]

3. forgot to say

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4. They LOOK like ordinary jets parked here at our county airport

Disgusting, isn't it?

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Yes

They have to disguise it. I remember reading about this last year and told another board and of course was called a looney. They put a blind fold on the person and take them to a torture friendly country.

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7. Where did you read this last year?

[SittingBull]

11. Maybe here?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11976-2004Jul24_3.html

German source:

http://www.freace.de/artikel/200407/260704a.html


Swedish source:

http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/kallafakta/321279.html

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12. Wow! Thanks.

[CJCRANE]

8. Just heard interview with torture victim

on BBC World Service radio. The strange thing is that he described how his torturers knew he was innocent but they tortured him and used brainwashing to make him say whatever they wanted him to say. He mentioned that they tried to "employ" him but didn't want to go into details. Also mentioned that there are thousands of people from all over the world being kidnapped and shuttled around.

He said the torturers were American, Australian, Egyptian and Pakistani and that he'd been moved between Egypt, Pakistan, Bagram, Kandahar and Guantanamo. He seemed to imply that they try to make people admit to being leaders in al-Qaeda (which would account for all these #2's and 3's who get caught).

Very chilling stuff. Made me decide to join Amnesty International.

(Note: this is a copy of a post I also made to a thread in Editorials).

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10. Thanks. BBC World Service is an XM channel.

Switching now. Also a good discussion about this tonight on the Mike Malloy show on Air America.