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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:15 PM
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LIBERMAN REPLACES RUSMFELD?
Atrios runs this item today:

Secretary Lieberman

It's hard to imagine a worse choice for Secretary of Defense, except maybe the stupidest fucking guy on the face of the earth, but rumors are apparently floating around the ether that he may replace Rumsfeld. Schieffer said it on Face the Nation, Sullivan on Chris Matthews' show, etc.

It'd be a smart move for the Bush administration. The press loves them some Lieberman, and they love them some "bipartisanship." Rumsfeld's clearly mad as a hatter these days and needs to go for reasons going beyond mendacious incompetence. Connecticut has a Republican governor at the moment and could appoint a Republican replacement in the Senate, making it easy for the new "incumbent" to win the seat in an election.

And Holy Joe's already gone throgh his bit of ritual hazing, demonstrating his willingness to put his name on a pack of lies in service to the Bush administration.

Politics aside, though, what a nightmare.

*****

IF this goes thru then we know everything we need to know about Liberman. I don't think it's insane to think that Republican operative s are embedded into our party.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:16 PM
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1. You have to admit it would be interesting!
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:18 PM
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5. It'd be aweful.
Any democrat who would help out this administration is a snake.

How the hell can you get this far in our party with so little loyalty?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:28 PM
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15. If he excepts the Nomination he'll be showing his true colors..
It would be an excellent way to purge him from the Party.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:33 PM
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24. Good point
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:16 PM
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2. "except maybe the stupidest fucking guy on the face of the earth,"
No, he's already pResident. :evilfrown:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:18 PM
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7. Douglas Feith.
Though you might have known that.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:19 PM
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23. You know, I hear that a lot about Feith.
People who have had to deal with Feith--Tommy Franks and Larry Wilkerson in particular--claim that the guy is outright stupid.

But he's obviously a well-read person, almost an historian. As incompetent as others claim he is, he brokered his #3 position in the Pentagon to heights of personal power with the same deftness as Reinhard Heydrich once did.

So just what makes this man so stupid? He looks like an evil genius to me.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:23 PM
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12. made me laugh, though.
Atrios knows how to cut to the chase when he needs to, doesn't he?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:16 PM
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3. It would be great!
Joementum would be out as senator - and replaced by Lowell Weicker next year. Good news!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:18 PM
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4. with a Repuke taking the seat in the mean time
unless Connecticut has a law calling for special elections when a vacancy occurs

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:06 PM
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22. fair tradeoff in my opinion. eom.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:20 PM
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10. YES! And maybe he's starting to worry about whether he will win.
Whatever, the Senate would be rid of this DINO if he officially signed on with the * cabal. :thumbsup:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:18 PM
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6. GOOD!!!! Take Him off OUR Hands, Then We Can Get Someone GOOD Elected
in CT. Fuck Liberman, he belongs w/ Bush. They should rot in hell together.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:31 PM
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16. Excellent point. Go ahead, George. Make our day and appoint Loserman.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:19 PM
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8. Republican Governor Rell would appoint a moderate house member
like Chris Shays who would happily vote right along with Frist, Allen and McConnell. Lieberman needs to retire and let the seat open naturally-not give it up for Rell to use as a political plum.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:19 PM
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9. Does Lieberman have any military experience? Let's at least require THAT
again. I do believe only those who have served can understand parts of what is required for this position.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:22 PM
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11. bush so imcompetent and sucha failure had to get 2000 vp
candidate to help him fix his mess. ok

all in the talking points, so i am told by many on this board
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:24 PM
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13. Won't happen - stupid speculation
just like the last time when it was speculated that Lieberman would be appointed Sec of Education...

OR THE LAST TIME this rumor was thrown out...like last February.

February 14, 2005
Lieberman to Replace Rumsfeld?
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) "could be on an administration list to replace Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in the next year or so," the Washington Post reports. Lieberman’s departure from the Senate could give Connecticut Gov. Jodi Rell (R) "an opportunity to appoint a Republican to the seat for at least a few months before the election, inching the GOP closer to a filibuster-proof Senate."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2005/02/14/lieberman_to_replace_rumsfeld.html

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and even if it were offered, he won't take it. I can't stand him, but I'm pretty certain he won't give up an easy Senate win next year.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:33 PM
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17. Indeed, if Lieberman was smart enough to turn em down in Dec O4
why in the world would he tie himself to bush admininstration now?

He may be a lot of things, but he isnt stupid or suicidal.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/14/whitehouse.lieberman/

<snip>

Sources: Lieberman rejects White House overtures
From John King
CNN
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 Posted: 10:50 PM EST (0350 GMT)

(CNN) -- Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman has twice in recent days said "no" when approached about the possibility of a major job in the second Bush administration, CNN has learned.

The Cabinet vacancy at the Department of Homeland Security was the subject of the latest overture, according to congressional and other government sources. Those sources said the earlier overture was to see whether Lieberman might be interested in becoming the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

White House officials declined comment, saying they do not discuss personnel matters.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:28 PM
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14. This would be a nightmare for the armed forces.
Other than Lieberman's being a fart catcher for the GOP what qualifications does he have to be SOD? From what I remember about Holy Joe during the primaries I suspect the first thing he would do if he became SOD would be to ban violent video games in the army and then attempt to restore moral purity by cracking down on topless bars near military bases and trying to ban porn. Never mind body armor man, their souls must be pure!

end of rant. Lord does this horse's ass stand on my wick
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oregonindy Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:40 PM
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18. I hope war whore lieberman has a challenger just like war whore clinton
one can always hope.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:43 PM
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19. And a Republican gets appointed to his seat in the Senate
he will screw us again.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:44 PM
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20. Please switch parties Joe...nt
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:57 PM
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21. it's not insane to think rep. ops are in our party,
and not insane to think dem. ops are in theirs...
Not insane at all.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:35 PM
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25. He's purely a Bush ass kisser
And it's disgusting after they stole the 2000 election from Gore. :mad: I can't stand this ass!
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