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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:06 PM
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Can McCain run for President? Born in Panama!
Doesn't U.S. law state you must be born here?
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:08 PM
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1. was he born in a military hospital?
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 01:08 PM by bertha katzenengel
if so, that probably constitutes "born in U.S." - but i don't know for sure.

edit: besides, he already has run for president. this would've been settled long ago.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:08 PM
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2. He was most likely
born on a US Military Base. We tried that with Goldwater. He was born in AZ before it was a state. It didn't budge anyone.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:09 PM
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3. If you're born to American parents, you're an American citizen
Doesn't matter where you were born, it's who you were born to.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:12 PM
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10. Not entirely true, citizenship is not always automatic unless the
parent (one or both) is serving on official duty as a representative of the US government. Otherwise, it is incumbent upon the parents to swiftly go to the nearest embassy or consulate and fill out a "Report of US citizen born abroad" form.

If you are on vacation in a foreign land, have a kid, and do not do that, your kid is not a US citizen.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:10 PM
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4. Back then, Panama Canal was in the US...
I assume that's where he was born...

Disregarding that, you simply have to be a natural born a citizen, which he was because his parents were citizens. His dad was an admiral, right?

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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:10 PM
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5. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone
Since it was a US Territory back then, I would assume that it was technically part of the United States.

Just a guess, though. I'm not an expert at these things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:10 PM
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6. The Panama Canal Zone was U.S. soil.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:10 PM
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7. He was born on American soil in Panama
His daddy was on official duty in the USN when he was born, in a US military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone.

There's an exception when you are on official duty in such a capacity.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:11 PM
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8. If parents are US, he is US, If parents not US only by being born on
(or in?) US kills the need to "immigrate" to the US.

Pres requires you not be an immigrated type.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:11 PM
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9. From Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution....
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

He was a Citizen of the U.S. His father, in the military, was posted in Panama (U.S. Canal Zone at that!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:15 PM
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11. Actually, the natural born is the thing that takes sway now
The citizen of the US business was to solve the problem at the outset, when so many people were not born in what was the US at the time the Constitution was adopted.

But in the case of McCain, the point is moot. He was born on US soil--a military hospital in Panama. It's the same as an embassy, which is also considered to be US soil.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:23 PM
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12. Yes. He's a Right-Wing Goosestepping Corporate Thug.
That's all it really takes to capture the GOP nomination.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:55 PM
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13. He's third generation US Navy
His father was a three star admiral, and so was his grandfather.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:57 PM
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14. You have to be a naturally born US citizen. You can be born anywhere
as long as one of your parents was a citizen when you were born.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:57 PM
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15. Yes, Panama was a U. S. territory back then. Additionally, his parents...
...are U. S. citizens and he is third-generation Navy.
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