On Chris Matthews: Sullivan 'Liberman will be asked to be Sec of Defense"

[NewHampshireDem]

:yoiks: What a mess that will make for '06. Of course, the terms RINO and DINO have moved into the mainstream media, so maybe it won't have a huge impact, but talk about a lose-lose for dems ... :sigh:

[rooboy]

1. At least Zell Miller can have Joe and his wife over for Christmas. n/t

[clydefrand]

3. Not if they serve ham; maybe it'll just be a bunch of turkeys!

[Leilani]

2. What the heck does Lieberman know about the military?

He loves war, but when he had a chance to serve, he had "other priorities," just like his pal Cheney.

[Lusted4]

15. You only need to do what they ask, Like John McCain, n/t

[Leilani]

18. Right!

McCain the "Chickenhawk"

LOL!

I don't agree with McCain, but he's forgotten more than Joe ever knew.

[Fovea]

4. I really think that ** needs a military person

for SecDef. While Joementum's never met a Bush** military policy he couldn't support, not having a SecDef with practical strategic experience is hurting us, and will hurt us worse in the next year or so, as we try desperately to implement a pragmatic exit strategy.

[thefloyd]

5. Surely Lieberman would turn

down the offer. Also, Lieberman's Jewish heritage would provide another tool for terrorist recruitment. I really cannot see Liberman as Defense Secretary.

[itzamirakul]

11. Lieberman is an "Israeli-firster"...everything that he does is to benefit

Israeli equally with the United States. Everything.

[Behind the Aegis]

25. .

:eyes:

[kohodog]

6. As a CT resident I think it would be fine.

He'd be better than Rummy and then CT would have an open slot to elect a more progressive senator. It would be very tough for any Republican other than Jodi Rell to win here. If Rell made an appointment to replace Joe it would only last until 06 I think.

There is growing sentiment to dump Joe, but even among progressives there are questions as to where energy and money will be best spent in 06. There are several Republican Reps like Simmons and Shays who are vulnerable.

I don't see how this could be a "lose, lose" situation. I see it as a "win, win."

[Smarmie Doofus]

10. Where is the "growing sentiment" to replace Lieberman?

Seems to me it's mostly among out-of-staters. Does Lieberman even have any primary opponent? The only opposition I know of pulled-out: the Fairfield U professor.

Also republicans are very good at recruiting "non-political" types like Schwarzenegger, Bloomberg, etc. It would be a fairly simple move for Rove, or whomever, to persuade some well-known, telegenic demagogue to establish incumbency and solidify a one-seat gain for the GOP in 2006.

[w13rd0]

7. At least then he'd OFFICIALLY be on the WH payroll..

...rather than shilling for them pro bono.

[BlueManDude]

8. They need bi-partisan cover

Lieberman would be insane to take the job.

[Benhurst]

9. Bingo! You've said the magic word, "insane."

Good luck, Mr. Secretary. And now to find a real Democrat to run for LIEberman's old seat.

[SkiGuy]

12. Kristol said that too

about Lieberman. At first I thought he was joking, but my suspisions seem justified now.

[BlueManDude]

16. The word is W's Mom wants Rummy's head

My first thought was that they'd turn to Bill Cohen as "bi-partisan" choice - but I can see the beauty of Liebs. Is he that stupid to actually take the job?

[peekaloo]

13. Mumbly Joe?

:rofl:

or maybe I should be frightened if Kristol has mentioned him, too.

[UTUSN]

14. Fergit the Political Suicide - It's the Ticket to LOSING Anything

(Not baiting: ) The elephant in the room is that Joementum is for whatever's-best-for-Israel.

As for his will and skill in FIGHTING, yeah, he will gum the enemy to death like he did CHEENEE.

[liberaliraqvet26]

17. This is Rove testing the idea of Joementum for SECDEF...

it would be a brilliant political move. Tough for us to pick sides.

[No Exit]

19. The wingnuts would REALLY abandon * if he did that.

After all, they're so stupid, they still think the NYT is "the liberal media". And they also think Lieberman is a flaming liberal. (Sure, all "flaming liberals" support war-for-profit.)

[bridgit]

20. they should just ask him to become a republican...

[Tower]

21. You can always count on Lieberman to do everything he can to

give the Republicans a "bi-partisan" out, and smear the Democratic Party. I'm so sick of that man.

[stevietheman]

22. If Lieberman takes the job, expel him from the party.

If he joins this enemy regime, he is no longer a Democrat.

[itzamirakul]

29. To be very honest...I don't think anyone can just kick another member out

of the Party.

Does anyone know the rules and bylaws of the Party?

[Hubert Flottz]

23. They would set Joe up in Rummy's office so that it would be a ...

"democrat" that had to break the bad news to the country::: "Well...In order to continue to keep the terraists at bay OVER THERE...I THINK...that we have no other choice...but to start up the draft! Besides...we All know that...it's a, NOBLE CAUSE and if we want the terraists there instead of here...which is neither here nor there...then...mumbo jumbo, mumbo jumbo, mumbo jumbo, mumbo jumbo!"

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. Ohhhhh Okkkkk, Well Now We Know Why He's Been Sucking Up So Much Lately!

Fucking Traitor

[Hubert Flottz]

26. He's Our Traitor though...

:kick: him out!

[Cocoa]

27. who is Sullivan?

and why is anyone here, let alone EVERYONE in this thread so far, taking him/her seriously?

[NewHampshireDem]

30. Andrew Sullivan

He's a regular, AFAIK, on Tweety's show.

[bluedawg12]

28. here's Kristol's comment on Joe

Can't tell if he is serious or not, or tiral balloon or not.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/423jshnf.asp


So all Bush has to do is fight the war. And if he really wants to torment the Democrats--and advance the war effort--he could make Joe Lieberman Secretary of Defense.

--William Kristol