The mess in Iraq is going exactly as planned.

[Freedomfried]

Thanks to ICH for the link, this is what I've suspected all along:

http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=1


The recent revelations about the virulent spread of death squads ravaging Iraq have only confirmed for many people the lethal incompetence of the Bush Regime, whose brutal bungling appears to have unleashed the demon of sectarian strife in the conquered land. The general reaction, even among some war supporters, has been bitter derision: "Jeez, these bozos couldn't boil an egg without causing collateral damage."

But what if the truth is even more sinister? What if this murderous chaos is not the fruit of rank incompetence but instead the desired product of carefully crafted, efficiently managed White House policy?

Investigative journalist Max Fuller marshals a convincing case for this dread conclusion in a remarkable work of synthesis drawn from information buried in reams of mainstream news stories and public Pentagon documents. Piling fact on damning fact, he shows that the vast majority of atrocities now attributed to "rogue" Shiite and Sunni militias are in fact the work of government-controlled commandos and "special forces," trained by Americans, "advised" by Americans and run largely by former CIA assets, Global Research reports.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=1

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. This is why they didn't guard the ammo dumps

when we invaded. They needed to make sure there would be an armed insurgency.

[bananas]

2. We all knew this what Negroponte was sent there for. nt

[peekaloo]

3. I was just about to make a similar remark.

Sweet Jebus.

[bananas]

12. I wonder what he's been doing in his new job...

we already saw Blackwater mercs in New Orleans after Katrina.

[annabanana]

4. You'll find a lot of agreement here..

myself included. PNAC wasn't shy about their plans. Everything is just hunky-dory for the recipients of all the National Treasure.

The funny thing is that, for this kind of sick plan to work, the truth must be knocked out, completely. This isn't possible in our info soaked world, and almost everyone is on to them.

Bagdad Bob.. er Don is still going up in front of us spouting the "noble lies" to us "useful idiots". He is exposed as a one trick pony with nothing in his sack but Leo Strauss inspired deception. He was at it during the Nixon administration, and he's still at it.

[EuroObserver]

25. Sick plan work?

-> They're going to have to take out all the internet truthseekers and truthspreaders.

[BJW]

5. I've also long suspected that this was calculated

not a mistake, not an oversight, not idiocy, but cold and calculating planning to create exactly this situation and create the "reasons" to keep American troops occupying Iraq.

[Dr.Phool]

7. About this time last year

Weren't Rummy and a few others discussing the "Salvador Option"?

Translation: Death squads.

[julianer]

28. Yes and Negroponte

was appointed ambassador to Iraq to implement it. Once it was in place Negroponte was appointed as head of DNI, the same acronym as the Salvadorian death squad contolling organisation. Must be signs of a sense of 'humour'.

[FighttheFuture]

6. This is their policy on all things... Chaos, Death and Destruction...

make it far easier to exploit and control elements of Society for their own ends.

Iraq is, in some ways, simply a diversion for what they are doing to us all, and the world. Katrina; Tax reallocations to the wealthy; Coporations unbound from any regulations of obligation to the society they prey upon; offshoring; illegal (or "Guest") workers; etc.


It's pretty obvious, in all things...

Divide and Conquor.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. How come the ones with the biggest ships and missiles never go

down for their PROVEN WARCRIMES???

[EuroObserver]

26. Because they have the biggest ships and missiles n/t

[leftofthedial]

9. you are correct.

chaos is exactly what they want.

Eventually, they want things to stabilize enough that they can start making bigger oil bucks, but for now the chaos is quite lucrative for the Halliburton and Carlyle Group boys and it's also serving the neocon-PNAC agenda.

[Freedomfried]

10. Everybody's making big bucks over the chaotic situation right now

so expect the chaotic situation to continue....

Right on thru the next administration.

[stray cat]

11. Bush doesn't want to leave Iraq. He doesn't want it fixed.

[bloom]

13. That's why ...

I've suggested that the so-called Republican leaks about the CIA prisons in Europe were intentional also. It's all the stuff we hate - all the bullying - all the war crimes - they think this is stuff that will make us "safe". And it's what the BushBots seem happy to hear about. We're apparently supposed to celebrate that there are death squads. ...And the whole Machiavellian immoral philosophy.

:crazy: :wtf: :grr:

[tiptoe]

14. kick & RECOMMENDED! (for appreciating the intent and use of

incompetence by the Neocons).

[Freedomfried]

16. Yup, incompetence used as a tool.

The reason I always figured that Jeb wasn't the "chosen one" was because Jeb is just a little too smart to be used for the purposes they had in mind.
Jeb might of listened to his Dad.
But Georgy, like every alcoholic on the planet, well he had this ego problem that made him very easy to manipulate.
And after his purposeful display of inhumanity to the world during the Carla Fae execution, they could see they had their man.

[Junkdrawer]

17. Every time they're busted...out comes the incompetence card...

They're not evil, they're just dumb... :eyes:

[Junkdrawer]

15. Divide and Conquer…

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5476242

[TahitiNut]

18. The current chaos was totally foreseeable by anyone with an IQ over 90.

It's impossible for a sane, honest, reasonably intelligent and informed person to regard conditions in Iraq as anything other than what is intended by the Bushoilini regime. False flag operations are an art practiced in south Asia and the Middle East for millenia. Iraq has had strife and division built in since the British decided to draw lines on a map and contain three rival factions, each inimical to and jealous of the power of the others. It was intentional then; it's intentional now.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. This has been my belief since the initial bullshit.

It was the day rummy announced that a bit of looting was a good thing that I realized that their intention was to create the justification for a permanent occupation based on instability within Iraq.

Sick fucking bastards. Every one of them is a war criminal.

[Clara T]

20. Planned Chaos

The Swirl of Chaos

Hecate Does Her Thing in Haiti and Iraq

By RON JACOBS

All around us is the mark of chaos. In Iraq, somebody is setting off bombs in large crowds and killing hundreds. Nobody claims responsibility and nobody knows who finances the unknown bombers. In Haiti, mysterious factions and individuals are taking over cities, killing their enemies, and overthrowing governments.

<snip>


Do I think the US precipitated these deadly acts? Let me put it this way. The US has killed tens of thousands of Iraqis in the past thirteen years. Some of these human beings were killed by sanctions, some by helicopter gunships, some by precision guided missiles, and some by good old-fashioned carpet-bombing. With this in mind, can one honestly believe that I am out of my mind to even consider US involvement in the aforementioned bomb attacks? From news reports, it seems that as far as many Iraqis are concerned, the US is responsible for these acts, if not directly, then through their continued presence in Iraq and their manipulation of the political situation there to fit their corporate needs. The bottom line in all of this is that war is a very profitable business for certain corporations-corporations that are well represented in this and other US administrations.

<snip.

In short, the chaos unleashed in Iraq and Haiti serves the Pentagon and its benefactors well. That being the case, it seems fair to seriously consider the charges of those Iraqis who blame the US for the recent carnage in Kirkuk, Karbala and Baghdad.

more...
http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs03052004.html

Only the naive or uninitiated think otherwise.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

21. Not surprised, not surprised at all

:-(

The targets of the so-called "sectarian violence" made no sense at all in those terms. Bombing market places frequented by a mixture of people is pointless even if you're a Shiite who has a fanatical hatred of Sunnis or vice versa.

Note how the sides in Northern Ireland or Israel/Palestine make efforts not to kill their own people.

We're supposed to believe that there are masses of "evil" people roaming Iraq blowing things up at random for no reason other than that "they're terrorists."

Black ops are more likely.

[1932]

22. Yeah. it's going to generate ton of US Arm$ $ale$ to Iraqi $pecial Force$

that will keep the petrodollars flowing back into the US which will prop up our crumbling economy for a little longer.

Sometimes the misery of others can really help you if you're a rich American.

[Sam_Lowry]

23. My dark fear...

Is that Iraq is the training ground for efforts to come later here in the US. I cannot see things continuing as they are, and eventually a breaking point will be reached. A stolen election that is so blatant as to not be ignored, or an economic crash, or something else. And when that happens the neocons will have a cadre of trained and dedicated men who will obey any order against any "enemy".

[EuroObserver]

27. Yes of course. Resist NOW! n/t

[K-W]

24. Its what the US does in every other country it gets its hands on. eom

[me b zola]

29. evil thrives in chaos

I came to the same conclusion as the OP a while back. Sick. Twisted. Evil.

[leftchick]

30. kick

:kick:

[Junkdrawer]

31. Don't miss the referenced Max Fuller article:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=FUL20051110&articleId=1230

[EuroObserver]

33. The absolutely worst possible outcome

from any truly humanitarian point of view.

[Mika]

32. This is the method to keep troops in theater for the next move - Syria

If all had gone 'well' in Iraq then there would not be the need to have so many troops in theater. BushCrimeInc needs to keep troops there. Any 'pullout' will be a mirage - like the initially reported troop 'reductions' in Vietnam.

[realFedUp]

34. maybe this is why the Bushies are saying things are going well....

well is a deep word.

[Junkdrawer]

35. .

[BlueEyedSon]

36. Dude, that's what I been sayin'.....