Embedded TIME Reporter: Bush Lied In Speech Yesterday

[Laura PourMeADrink]

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/embedded-time-reporter/

Embedded TIME Reporter: Bush Lied In Speech Yesterday About Iraqi Security Forces
Yesterday, President Bush claimed that Iraqi security forces “primarily led” the assault on the city of Tal Afar. Bush highlighted it as an “especially clear” sign of the progress Iraq security forces were making in Iraq.

The progress of the Iraqi forces is especially clear when the recent anti-terrorist operations in Tal Afar are compared with last year’s assault in Fallujah. In Fallujah, the assault was led by nine coalition battalions made up primarily of United States Marines and Army — with six Iraqi battalions supporting them…This year in Tal Afar, it was a very different story. The assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces — 11 Iraqi battalions, backed by five coalition battalions providing support.

TIME Magazine reporter Michael Ware, who is embedded with the U.S. troops in Iraq who participated in the Tal Afar battle, appeared on Anderson Cooper yesterday. He said Bush’s description was completely untrue:

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[Loonman]

1. Get on this, Pelosi, Reid

Impeach, impeach, IMPEACH!

[Oceansaway]

2. Touche !!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. Here ya go !!

[goclark]

68. Sounds peachie to me! LOL nt

[stop the bleeding]

4. perhaps you have seen this???

Rep. Miller Hints at Impeachment.......

12/01/2005 Miller: Bush, Cheney emerge as 'liars'- RACHEL RASKIN-ZRIHEN, - timesheraldonline.com

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Must have a simple majority of the House - probably not there

yet - start with Cheney - easier

[stop the bleeding]

17. think of the 2006 elections there is window of chance then

and BTW love the picture of the church signs. where is that from?

Classic

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Yes 2006 -- Gonna be a great year! The church pic ? Got it here

on DU - 2-3 wks ago, I believe.

[ashling]

27. And that's not all

assuming that Bush could be impeached (and that's a BIG if), he could not be convicted as things stand now.

However, if he was convicted, what have we got?: Cheney

from the frying pan to the fire ... after all, that's where the REAL deamon's are, er, is.
:evilgrin:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. Let's impeach Cheney First....

[mopinko]

93. i say go for a two-fer

both at once. if either can be done, both can be done.

[ashling]

95. I think that they would

have to be done seperately. There is no precedent for doing them in one impeachment, but then I don't think that the question has ever been presented.

[mopinko]

96. randi told me you could

and i don't see why you couldn't. especially with corruption and treason on this scale. how could you leave a traitor in the white house while his co conspirator remains in charge?

[MannyGoldstein]

62. Let The Republicans Figger It Out

Bush is an albatross around the necks of the Republicans for three more years, unless they get rid of him. The 2006 and 2008 elections will be a disaster for them, unless they can show a clear break from the culture of corruption.

I'm sure that the Republicans want Bush out in the worst way, but want Cheney even less - and I'm sure that they're now trying to figger out how to clean house. However, their leadership is in such utter disarray... it's a mess.

[electropop]

92. The Repigs will eventually have to convict

Bush and Cheney in a desperate attempt to hold on to the Congress. This will, as usual for Republicans, be a miserable failure.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. great impeachment sign....

[liberal N proud]

20. That is funny

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[malaise]

21. Someone has finally used the correct word

LIARS

[Trevelyan]

86. This 6 pg Impeachment petition quotes US, International and Nurenburg Law

You can sign the petition without reading it, but the 6 page pdf does not take long to download and it is powerful - "Just because you bomb a country doesn't give you the right to steal its' assets."

Signature page:

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/petition2.htm

==I want my representative in the U.S. House of Representatives to vote to impeach President Bush for the high crimes described in the case for impeachment made by Veterans For Peace, and have the case prosecuted and tried in the U.S. Senate. Signatures on this petition will be delivered to the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee and to the ranking Democrat on the Committee

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
Laws violated by President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, public officials under their authority, and members of the U.S. military under their command, sufficient for impeachment

Veterans For Peace does not sell or share names or addresses. We are asking for your address to make this a real petition to Congress.

The 6 page petition is here:

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/petition_release.pdf

Keep mentioning whistleblower names, it keeps them safer. It is great that the press is now starting to tell some of the truth and I will look for the Ware video. :kick: Nominated

[Peace Patriot]

90. LauraPackYourBags, PLEASE CORRECT YOUR POST! You have left out...

...crucial quotation marks, around the Bush quote--making the article nonsensical. It should appear this way:

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Embedded TIME Reporter: Bush Lied In Speech Yesterday About Iraqi Security Forces

Yesterday, President Bush claimed that Iraqi security forces “primarily led” the assault on the city of Tal Afar. Bush highlighted it as an “especially clear” sign of the progress Iraq security forces were making in Iraq.

"The progress of the Iraqi forces is especially clear when the recent anti-terrorist operations in Tal Afar are compared with last year’s assault in Fallujah. In Fallujah, the assault was led by nine coalition battalions made up primarily of United States Marines and Army — with six Iraqi battalions supporting them…This year in Tal Afar, it was a very different story. The assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces — 11 Iraqi battalions, backed by five coalition battalions providing support." (--Geo. Bush)

TIME Magazine reporter Michael Ware, who is embedded with the U.S. troops in Iraq who participated in the Tal Afar battle, appeared on Anderson Cooper yesterday. He said Bush’s description was completely untrue:...

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The formatting at the link makes this clear (that Bush is being quoted in the 2nd paragraph). Your formatting does not.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

97. thank you very much. It was too late to edit, sorry....

[Kierkegaard]

5. Of course he lied.

His mouth was moving, wasn't it?

[Rainscents]

6. Of course Bush lied... He is, pathological liar!

[BOSSHOG]

7. Bless bush's heart

How can he govern while receiving only "flawed" intelligence.

[Richard Steele]

8. He's been lying for five years. Nice of the media to finally notice.

This is hardly news.
He lies. He lies CONSTANTLY.

I cannot think of a single program or mission
he has undertaken which WASN'T built on lies.

The only REAL news is that the MEDIA is
finally starting to point these things out,
rather than ENABLING them.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Hey, Why do you think I didn't put this in Latest Breaking News ?

Because it's not news that he lied ! haha

[hobbit709]

39. Actually he's been lying longer than that

He lied for six years as governor here

[Dora]

10. Why is no one else recommending this? Get to work! n/t

[Catchawave]

11. Ware was just on MSNBC

and basically left the newsbunny speechless.

[Loonman]

14. Excellent

Was it Norah O'Donnell?

[Catchawave]

35. Definitely not Norah,

she was one of the blondies (sorry, they all look alike to me), but Randy Meier was her co-anchor this morning. Amy Robach?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. love that -- "newsbunny"

[Catchawave]

36. I stole it from Imus.....

...one of less offensive words he uses to describe them !

[Pirate Smile]

26. That was great. They even asked him about this re Lieberman:

"Time magazine Baghdad bureau chief Michael Ware on Morning Sedition this morning:

I and some other journalists had lunch with Senator Joe Lieberman the other day and we listened to him talking about Iraq. Either Senator Lieberman is so divorced from reality that he's completely lost the plot or he knows he's spinning a line. Because one of my colleagues turned to me in the middle of this lunch and said he's not talking about any country I've ever been to and yet he was talking about Iraq, the very country where we were sitting."

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_11_27_atrios_archive.html#113328407009752558

I really fear for his safety over in Iraq. He keeps busting BushCo on their lies.

During the segment on MSNBC, he talked about the battle Bush referred to that the Iraqi's supposedly took the lead in. He said he was there and the Iraqi's were not leading. The Americans were telling them what to do. He also said one Iraqi military leader (rank? I'm not sure) was literally thrown out by the US military leader in charge and his Iraqi troops were pulled out of the battle.

[Catchawave]

33. Thanks for the details !

I usually keep MSNBC on for the background noise, and missed most of the interview, until she responded "Wow, that's very interesting", paraphrased, but you get the gist :hi:

[cantstandbush]

13. Kicked and recommended! n/t

[MellowOne]

18. What else is new?

Can we impeach him now.....please?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. yes - it's time....

[jackstraw45]

23. Bush lied, people died...

"How many LIES much a nation wash down...before we impeach this man?"

[WI_DEM]

24. So Bush lied again--why aren't articles of impeachment not circulating

Clinton lying about oral sex warranted impeachment.

[Az_lefty]

25. Was this the speech he made in front of the Troops???

if so, then BUSH LIED TO THE TROOPS !!!!! This is far more significant
than the fact that bush lied again.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. good one. actually he lied to them a whole shitload of times.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

29. I have a friend at the state department

This person is a career foreign service officer with over 20 years in service and this person says point blank we're losing in Iraq.

According to my friend the road between the green zone in Baghad and the airport isn't even secure.

One of this person's neighbors is a high ranking officer in either the Marines or Army, (I don't remember which) and he hates W for what he's done in Iraq and what he's done to the armed forces.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Yes, B** put us in an impossible position. You can not leave and

you can not stay. So might as well save lives and leave now. (thank you Kucinich) The biggest question to me is, if the insurgents wanted us out, why not just stop the attacks? And, then let us leave, and then do all the bad things they intend to do (or not do) when Iraq is US-free?

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

89. The position we're in truly sucks big time

Our only unilateral options are to either go to Vietnam troop levels - 500,000 or more and actually secure parts of the country or to leave.

To raise the troop levels like that requires a draft, so it isn't likely to happen.

A third option is to have Bush go to the UN Security Council and kiss every ass there while begging for them to put in a peace keeping force.

US troops can't even pretend to be a peace keeping force in Iraq, since our moral authority has been destroyed by W's aggression there.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

91. I don't know - even increasing the troop levels, might not work

even if we had the troops, because the people are not ratting out the insurgents. therefore, you would have one of those constant "midnight raid" situations to root them out, and thus, once again, thousands and thousands of people being detained and interrogated.

I also, really don't see any country backing this mess - if they didn't already. But I guess B** could blackmail them somehow.

What a fucking mess.

I think I am for Murtha's plan. Back out - over the horizon...

[IndyOp]

40. Thank you for this post - I know this is true and

I still appreciate hearing how widespread the realization is becoming -- that people in all walks of life are speaking out.

:kick:

[Captain Hilts]

53. Friend of mine at Quantico says the Marines are pissed.

And that's where Murtha's getting his political ammunition.

Bush is breaking the military.

[rodeodance]

32. so, when will the msm report on this?

. I was in that battle from the very beginning to the very end. I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with al Qaeda. They were not leading. They were being led by the U.S. green beret special forces with them.

Watch it:

[mtnester]

34. Ware in his interviews is nearly SCREAMING in frustration about

the lies this administration is telling. I hope and pray he has eyes in the back of his head.

[Pacifist Patriot]

37. Bush can't croak out a sound that isn't a lie.

[Teena]

78. You know they are lying...

when their mouths are moving. Just had to say it one more time.

[IndyOp]

38. Holy...

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[marylanddem]

41. This is so fucking infuriating. Goddamn that lying POS Bush. nt

[loudsue]

42. And WHEN this journalist turns up DEAD, there will be no accountability

by the administration. They've killed journalists over there, by the busloads, and then the journalists here in-country lick the bush/cheney/republican's asses, filling us full of hoorah's about how the republicans are so cool.

Fuck the media that won't stand up and do some friggin' investigative journalism, and PRINT what they find out.

O8) Bless and protect the journalists who have the balls to do their jobs! O8)

:kick::kick::kick:

[Gabi Hayes]

43. Didn't anybody see Anderson Cooper nail Warner with this last night?

first, he had the Time guy on, with all the salient quotes about the Green Berets leading the Iraqi troops, battle plan being US origin, etc.....

THEN, he played that whole thing for Warner who, after trying to come with an answer (you could see the wheels spinning), basically agreed with what he said, before coming up with a lame excuse, IIRC involving the idea that the reporter perhaps didn't have the entire picture)

very impressive performance by Cooper, NOTHING that self-loving Aaron Brown would ever have dared

a big kudos to Cooper

will look for the Xscript, cause it's worth looking at

[Lasher]

57. Warner was left with this amazing rationalization...

"But you didn’t hear him say they cut and run like they did in Fallujah. You didn’t hear him say that the Iraqis dropped the arms."

So, it's a sign of improvement that the Iraqis didn't drop their weapons and scatter like somebody had just thrown a stink bomb into the gym! Amazing.

[Gabi Hayes]

65. thanks! where'd you find that? the cnn transcript for 360 last night

doesn't include any of the Time Mag guy OR Warner's quotes

got any more of that?

Warner sure is a moranski

[Lasher]

75. Hit the link provided in the original message of this string

The transcript is there, along with the video clip.

[Soylent Green]

85. It would be fascinating

if it wasn't so f-ing infuriating. Bush LIEs, and the poodles rationalize a la Tom Tomorrow! If it were a "LIbrul" the lynch mobs would descend! Amazing - just how it is in the cartoon strip, except that real people are dying and being maimed.

[Betsy Ross]

44. Any truth out of the man would be real news. n/t

[spanone]

45. Good catch, I saw him say that on Cooper's show last night.

Hail to the Lying-Bastard-In-Chief in OUR White House.

edit:sp

[ClintonTyree]

46. One lie following another........

that's the only way a liar can keep the lie alive. Someone once said, 'to be a successful liar you must have a very good memory', or something like that. That cooks bush's goose right there, he's not capable of remembering what he had for breakfast this morning.
Bush could not successfully manage a 7-11, he'd run it into the ground after 6 months. Yet he's president. :eyes: Thanks, you ignorant "moral values" voters! :puke:

[rdmccur]

72. And election thieves!

[Peace Patriot]

94. Thank you, redmccur! So true! But I'm beginning to have some dark...

...thoughts about Dem Party leader complicity in the stolen election, due to their TOTAL SILENCE about Bushite corporations (Diebold, ES&S) tabulating our votes with 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount capability), AND about the war profiteering corporate news monopolies CONFIRMING that fraudulent vote tabulation by DOCTORING their own exit polls (Kerry won) to FIT the result of Diebold's and ES&S's secret formulae (Bush won).

I am also becoming very concerned about Vietnam II, because the set up is so similar. Republican prez (Eisenhower) stops UN-sponsored Vietnamese elections in the mid-1950s (Ho Chi Minh would have won), and sends in US military "advisers" and the CIA to create a corrupt, phony, US-proxy government in the south, and they start killing "communists" (Vietnamese patriots who didn't like being occupied, and had been throwing out occupiers--the Chinese, the French--for 5,000 years).

JFK gets elected, refuses to support CIA invasion of Cuba, and RESCINDS the operations in Vietnam by executive order. Bang, bang, shoot, shoot. JFK gone.

LBJ, upon taking office, immediately reverses that decision, escalates the US presence in Vietnam, and sells himself as the "peace candidate" in the 1964 election. (I bought it. I was very young. My first vote for president.) The phony "Gulf of Tonkin" incident gets Congress on board. And the big military Draft proceeds. More escalation. Thousands being killed. War profiteers very happpy.

1968: Martin Luther King comes out against the war. Assassinated in March. Robert Kennedy, comes out against the war, wins Calif. primary, headed for the White House. Assassinated in June. Nixon elected (Karl Rove gets his start.)

Upwards of 2 million Vietnamese slaughtered. Over 50,000 US soldiers killed. Expansion into the region--Laos, Cambodia--under Nixon. The entire region in flames, before its over.

Fast-forward. Republican president sets it all up. 100% lies to get us into Iraq. Doesn't really care about world domination; just wants to loot; so lacks competence to run the war. Prior to the invasion, Congress gets anthraxed, and Paul Wellstone's plane mysteriously falls out of the air (leader of opposition to Iraq war), and, after the invasion, the new Republican-controlled electronic voting system "re-elects" Bush, with not one word of objection to the fraudulent election SYSTEM by the Dem Party leadership. Then the Bush Cartel, having gone too far with the looting, and not giving a crap about running an efficient war, gets into political trouble. (--polls all along say Americans opposed to the war, in big numbers, nearly 60%).

Enter the War Democrats, with a PLAN to "withdraw" from Iraq but not from the region; let the Shias and the Kurds kill off the rebellious Sunnis; Bush Cartel having made deal with Shias and Kurds for the oil; and maintain a huge US military presence in Kuwait/Qatar (under the fat sheiks of Araby), ready to pounce on Syria and Iran with another phony "Gulf of Tonkin" incident.

And the War Democrat that Diebold and ES&S installs meanwhile gets a new military Draft (which Bush couldn't do).

I tell ya, I've got the willies about this Murtha thing. And what we have here, with Diebold and ES&S, is endless re-election of the War Party. They don't have to assassinate our anti-war leaders any more. They just have to Diebold them.

---------

Hope? That we can wrangle real election reform out of the War Democrat--who will have to at least pay lip service to progressive values such as transparent elections. And that, with our right to vote restored, we can repair our democracy, seek real change, and assist in reversing global warming (end of our planet; end of all life on earth).

That is why, despite whatever lies they spout about "war being peace," I will support whatever Dem candidate they permit us to have. I want us to have a voice in that adminstration to get rid of Diebold and ES&S. And to keep Chevron's candidate ("Ms. Global Warming") Condi Rice from becoming Empress of the World.

[A Simple Game]

87. It seems that I have more faith in * than you do.

I bet he could run a 7-11 into the ground in less than 3 months!

[liberalitch]

47. Bah-ha-ha bbbbusted..... as my students would say!

[vincent_vega_lives]

48. Hate to rain on this parade

But despite what the reporter says, it doesn't make this statement a lie:

The assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces — 11 Iraqi battalions, backed by five coalition battalions providing support

The fact that the US SOF Advisors were "leading" their charges into battle does not change the fact that the assault was "primarily led by Iraqi Security forces."

Misleading yes, but factually incorrect..NO.

[jfkraus]

50. But his intent...

was to mislead the American people. Despicable.

[vincent_vega_lives]

51. No arguement that the intent

was to make more of this that it actually was.

[Lasher]

59. I don't agree with your analogy

How can the attack have been primarily led by Iraqi forces when it was led instead by US forces? The Iraqi forces were being led.

Ware (the reporter) said, "They were being led by the U.S. green beret special forces with them. Green berets who were following an American plan of attack who were advancing with these Iraqi units as and when they were told to do so by the American battle planners. The Iraqis led nothing."

Bush's statement was therefore both misleading and also factually incorrect. Around here we call that a lie.

[Cha]

67. A lie is a lie is a

LIE!

[vincent_vega_lives]

69. Didn't make an analogy for you to disagree with.

Ware, and therefore you, don't understand how SOF operates with indigenous forces. An Iraqi Army BN has between 500-700 soldiers. IIRC there were 11 involved in the operation. Green Berets usually operate in small groups of 12 men. If by "lead" the reporter means out in front, aggressively assisting the Iraqi leadership conduct offensive operations...well that's the nature of Green Berets. They advise and teach by doing.

The Iraqi Units were "Leading" the operation in military terms, as the Regular Coalition units were in a supporting role, following behind in case the Iraqi units bogged down or got into more than they could handle. The Special Forces were there to keep things moving and hold their Iraqi counterpart's hand. So yes you could say the Iraqi forces were leading the assault...just with US training wheels.

Around here we call that knowing what we are talking about.

[Lasher]

74. Who's on first?

You don't know if I am, or if I am not, fully aware of how the Green Berets operate. Ware, however, was with the Iraqi units in question during the battle. Yet you presume to know more than he about how the operation was conducted.

Forgive me for being redundant, but Ware said, "The Iraqis led nothing." This is not the kind of statement that is open to interpretation.

Even Warner accepted this as an accurate description, and so do I.

Around here we call this learning to read.

[Lena inRI]

49. Bush Boldface Bullshitter. . .

which goes with his cocky belief that he's untouchable with a Republican majority in Congress and a stacked SC. . .ha-ha-ha-ha. . .we'll see. . .we'll see. . .

:popcorn:

[Disturbed]

52. BUSH LIED?

I am not defending W but a lie is when a person states something false that they "know" is false. I suspect that W is clueless on many occassions and merely voices the speeches that he is given. He may not have know that this info that he read off was false. Proving that he lied is another matter.

[Straight Shooter]

55. I'm tired of the bush defense that he lives in a bubble of ignorance.

AFAIC, it's his job to know what's going on. He lied about the reasons for the war and he's been lying as long as we've been in there about the progress of the war.

Yes, I believe bush "knows" what he is saying is false. Perhaps that explains his erratic cokejaw tic which is becoming worse and worse.

[Mr_Spock]

54. Bush, his cronies and Faux "News" lie like we breath air.

I wish the judgement day would hurry up and arrive - I can't wait for their God to take them all off to burn in hell for thier lies that have murdered 31000 people for no good reason...

[Lena inRI]

56. Hear, hear, Mr.Spock. . .

and I'll pray we live long enough to see sweet retribution against this amoral Bush Crime Family!
:toast:

[OneTwentyoNine]

58. Hell,he lied last year about Iraqi troops in Fallujah...

That was all bullshit just like this episode. There were some present but they sure as hell didn't lead any attacks.

Bush lies just to be lieing.....

[Igel]

60. Of course, if we don't allow the reporter to change the meaning

of the word 'lead' mis-sentence, it rather falls apart, now doesn't it? English is so complex, all those words and meanings.

I mean, they were on the front lines. That implies that support units were behind them. But then he says they weren't leading the way--that's his clear intent--meaning they weren't on the front line, but support units.

Or we can have a few US Green Berets leading the Iraqi battalions, and the Iraqi battalions leading the fighting. Apparently would that cause the Time reporter's head to explode: what, both leading and being led? Clearly impossible.

Sigh. Sic transit gloria mundi, when a reporter can't understand what's presumably his native language. And they *pay* him to be a wordsmith?

[Yollam]

61. He lies every time he opens his mouth.

But it's nice to see the corporate media acknowledge it once in a while...

[lovuian]

63. Liar Liar pants on fire!!!

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[wrate]

64. EuroNews reported today that for at least a few hours some important

City (was on my way out so could not hear which one) was taken completely from the Americans. But the thing that caught my attention was the fact that they said Americans were denying this situation. And then referred to the scenes on TV were it was clear that the Insurgents were in fact in control. EuroNews has a completely different picture of the situation in Iraq, and its not similar to anything that American news networks are telling.

[proud patriot]

66. I for one am Glad this is being reported

:-)

[rman]

70. Lying caused by incompetence, or a competent liar?

Competent enough that he got away with it so far.

[niallmac]

71. Kool aid drinkers don't even care. Who is my enemy, Bush or them?

* couldn't exist without this hypnotized coterie of creeps.

[mikelewis]

73. What does Warner mean when he said the Iraqi forces cut and run...

in Fallujah? This is the first I've heard of this. I have looked for reports on this but any reference to Fallujah yeild nothing but chemical weapons sites. Anyone know anything about this? No links needed, a recollection is fine.

[Teena]

76. Aaah..

I can't take any more lies. Each and every time someone in the Bush administration does this, it makes all of us look like fools - even if we didn't vote for them.

Great news though! I just got back from seeing and hearing Paul Hackett, Democratic Senate candidate from Ohio. You must go to his website, HackettforOhio, and check him out. He is the perfect example of the kind of party leader we need to direct the future of the Democratic Party. Yeah, I know. A junior Senator - if - WHEN he wins. But he really is great. Solid values, Iraq War Marine, family man, comes from hard working parents, Dad a union man. Take bets on this man being very successful in and FOR the Democratic Party. You'll win big.

[proud2BlibKansan]

77. This same reporter thinks it would be disastrous

to pull out of Iraq.

[Miss Chybil]

79. Bush lies? Say it isn't so! nt

[jsamuel]

80. sent out

[UrbScotty]

81. But at least he didn't lie about a stain on a dress

:sarcasm:

:mad:

[Solly Mack]

82. Bush lied?

Whodaeverthunkitinamillionyears?

And gee, someone in the Press decided to point it out?

Now, that's news.

[MCMetal]

83. This Simian is the anti-George Washington

We're stuck with the polar opposite of the father of our country ; a sociopath and a habitual liar , who has all the "depth" of a puddle of baby urine ...... This dirty Bozo the Clown should be working in a county fair , wearing a humungous bulbous red nose , and over-sized black shoes ; not in the White House .......:banghead:

[killbotfactory]

84. What speech hasn't he lied in?

[AuntiBush]

88. Didn't Know Bush Ever Told Us the Truth.

When doesn't he LIE!?! And this is the "man" the so-called Christian Fundies voted for. Where is their outrage, they're outcries?

Their cries are deafening.