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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:11 PM Original message |
what the heck is an "insurgent" anyway? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. democrats are the U.S. form of insurgents |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I wish we had a "Zarqawi" |
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Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Awesome!! |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Zarqawi is an ephemeral myth |
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Skelington (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. I can't believe you said that. You approve of car bombs? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. You may have taken that comment too literally. EOM |
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Skelington (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I hope I did, but it is possibly, |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. huh? |
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Drum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah...during the American Revolution, |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. it seems to me, much like "terrorist" and "enemy combatant" |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Insurgents are (mainly) Iraqi citizens who don't like forcible takeover. |
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Drifter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. Back in the 80's .... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Technically, Reagan called the fascist resistance fighting against |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. wasn't that "Founding Fathers"? |
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Midwest_Doc (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. What the British Called the Colonists in 1776 n/t |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. Iraqi Patriots |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. exactly! . . . if this were happening here . . . |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. The base definition means "rebel". Iraqi rebels to our presence there. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's a nice-sounding word for barbarians |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. so you see them in black and white and as a monolithic bloc |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Your question deserves a single word answer |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. you have no sympathy for those who oppose the illegal occupation |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. I have no sympathy for cold-blooded murderers |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. So if the US were occupied, and some people fought back with weapons. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The "insurgents" are attacking mostly innocent civilian targets |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Can you cite some sources please? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. They're in the news almost every day |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. You claimed something far more specific. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Targeting of ANY civilians, even once, puts them in the wrong |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Right, so prove that all of the insurgents do so |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. It doesn't matter that they don't all target civilians |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. So now will you address those insurgents who dont target civillians? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Very well |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Thats fair. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Six-to-one ratio is a piss-poor record overall for the insurgency |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Im not sure I follow. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Back to my links in reply #74 |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. The insurgency isnt one cohesive organization. |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Not to take a side here but on this one point... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. An important point to add to that, |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
69. Most attacks are on coalition forces |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Thank you for introducing facts. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. Fits The "Boogie Man" Model |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. bingo |
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Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Insurgent: 'Rising in revolt against established authority, especially... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Thanks for the def. But who is the established authority in Iraq? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Exactly right. |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. One man's insurgent is another's freedom fighter. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. is another man's terrorist |
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kliljedahl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. Everyone we've killed is an "insurgent" |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. I'm going with your |
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vonslagle (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
21. I prefer the term "progressives" |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. A name for Iraqis who hate us for occupying their nation. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
23. A name for Iraqis who hate us for occupying their nation. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
27. the bigger question is why would they attack Iraq when we leave |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. because some of them view other Iraqis as the enemy |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's what they call a "PATRIOT" for the other 'side'. |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
29. As of this minute, by definition in the Patriot Act II - WE ARE n/t |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Iraqi Insurgency |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Interesting. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
31. You know, they are Iraqi's ready to stand up, so we can can stand |
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Uncle Roy (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. They use odd terms like "insurgents" and "weapons of mass destruction" |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. they absolutely DO use focus groups and testing on their language |
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Uncle Roy (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Their use of language fascinates me. "Perception management" is |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. the poster meant "Frank Luntz"--another evil, Rovian manipulatory master |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. thanks for bailing me out |
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Uncle Roy (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Thanks to you both. I loved his "14 Words Never to Use" memo. Creepy! |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
35. Terra-ist Lite n/t |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Terror Express! |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. Remember that "redacted" word document that the Italians released |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. That distinction does make some sense |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
52. Anyone who attacks Coalition forces. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. it is definitely a catch-all phrase used to label and market an "enemy" |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
55. any brown body that moves in Iraq |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-05 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
58. A member of an uprising or insurrection |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
62. An Iraqi male between the ages of 12 and 60. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
63. A "local" who fights back against an occupier.. |
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Justice Is Comin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
64. Something you use in your dishwasher. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
73. The Talibornagains are "insurgents" who have infiltrated our democracy. |
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