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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:04 PM
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Wearing Satan's jersey to Wal-Mart
Check out this story a woman posted to usenet about her trip to Wal-Mart wearing NHL hockey player Miroslav Satan's sweater:

Here's a true story from a message board I frequent, it takes place in
Kansas (naturally):

I've grown fascinated with NHL jerseys. I've bought a Phoenix Coyotes,
Avalanche Roy Throw back, Penguins Lemeiux, and Sabres Miroslav Satan.
The Satan, I just got today. I want to get one from each team and each
star from that team. I love wearing them.

Needless to say, I didn't think about Miroslav's name when I wore it to
WalMart with my 4 year old son. I've liked him for a long time. I've
never gotten so many stares of disgust in my life.

People pointing at the jersey, making comments for me to hear, etc.
Yeah, it crossed my mind about the shock value a while back, but I had
forgotten about it. The kicker was when I was leaving, a couple cornered
my son and I, and tried to "SAVE" us. No crap!! When I tried to explain
that it was a Buffalo NY Sabres jersey of a hockey player, they would
not believe me.

Them: "If you were to die tonight, would you go to Heaven?"

Me: "Yeah, I think so."

Them: "Then why wear a jersey with Satan's name on it?"

Me: "He's from the old Soviet Block and is a hockey player. It's
pronounced, "Sha-tan" (Hope I got that right)."

Them: "Then why isn't it spelled that way?"

Me: "I dunno'. They use a different language over there in the Czech
Republic or Bosnia or where ever he is from."

Them: "He's from Hell and you will burn in Hell unless you burn the
jersey."

Me: "Look, it's a hockey jersey of a real hockey player, look it up on
internet on NHL.com or something."

Them: "You are a SINNER!! You're advertising Satan's name, if you do not
repent, you will go to Hell."

Me: "I'm not a Sinner, and I like hockey jerseys. What's the problem?"

Them: "We know your parents, we're going to discuss this with them"

Me: "I'm way too old to care what my parents think, and I'll tell them
to expect to hear from you. GOODBYE!!!!"

Them: "Jesus wants to save you. It's not too late!"

Me: "GOOD-BYE!!!"

And we left. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. IT REALLY HAPPENED TONIGHT! Think
that's about the just of the converstaion, but they were VERY tenuous.
Got to hand it to them. For a couple in their late 50's early 60's, they
were on a mission. But I'm in my late 30's. Guess since it's a small
town, I'm branded now as a DEVIL WORSHIPPER for life. Parents thought it
was funny. So do I. NO BS!!!!!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:08 PM
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1. God gave us the truth, Satan came, organized it, and gave us ...
religion.

The Dark Lord has a mean slap shot, too.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:15 AM
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57. I'm getting a Miroslav Satan jersey for Christmas.
That settles it. I'll wear it to WalMart just to dare people to start with me.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:00 AM
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65. I want one too
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 10:00 AM by sakabatou
:evilgrin:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:08 AM
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68. That's great
I'll have to remember that, being an atheist I really don't care if someone wants to believe in a god it's the religion part that bothers me - I mean the part where some feel the need to shove it down others throats.
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nyrnyr1994 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:08 PM
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2. Amazing, isn't it?
It's a good thing Miroslav doesn't play for New Jersey :evilgrin:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:13 AM
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69. OMG! He HAS to play for the Jersey Devils.
Seriously, I'd pay good money for that shirt...
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #69
73. As a Penguin fan..
I could MAYBE see myself getting a Satan Sabres jersey, but I definatley couldn't get a Devils jersey.

Unless Satan plays there. If Satan ever plays for the Devils, I'm buying his jersey.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #69
74. Heck, you could probably get one made
There has to be a company that prints team jerseys with customized names on them.
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:45 PM
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81. HA ha ha ha ha!
Wow, that would be amazing. Of course, then the Rangers would have to get some Latin American phenom named Pablo Jesus or something like that, so they could have a Jesus jersey :D

SATAN VS. JESUS
TONIGHT AT THE GARDEN

GO RANGERS!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:05 PM
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90. I want the guy whose last name is St. Louis...
traded to the Blues. And, I love watching Miroslav play---Think of the imagery, Satan on ICE....:evilgrin:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:40 PM
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117. LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!! MALIKKKKKKKKK MALIKKKKKKKKK
Sorry, Couldn't control myself :)
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:09 PM
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3. Welcome to Ruritanian BushAmerica. Next time I go out, I'm
going to wear a necklace made of garlic to ward off such people.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:09 PM
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4. Man, I wonder what would happen if I wore my
"Satanic Army" Marilyn Manson shirt to Walmart. I wouldn't know, don't go there too often. But next time I do, I'm busting it out. :) Should be fun!
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:10 PM
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5. Since you didn't write it, I'm not attacking you...
but the language used by "them" sounds waaaaaaay too artificial and stilted and stereotypical (even realizing it is a paraphrase).

So I am voting for "BS Story".
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electricray Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:20 PM
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14. I don't know, some of these people are really charicature-like.
Some "bible-thumper" approached me and my then-girlfriend after a Black Crowes concert. We weren't even wearing a controversial t-shirt, and the quips we were assailed with read like a script of the above "transcription". The thing that makes me suspicious is the repeated reassurance that it is, in fact, a true story. Every comedian I have ever heard has used the "true-story" quote to make whatever story they tell next sound funnier. But either way perception is reality so I will choose to percieve this as true.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:22 PM
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15. I'm inclined to agree with you...
that's it probably a BS story. Could you imagine if it were real? :scared:
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. I think there a lot of hints...too many "bugaboos" converging in one
story.

Kansas....Wal-Mart....and fundies.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:28 PM
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20. Dude, I have family smack in Jesusland, Virginia
While this story may be apocryphal, I have no doubt there are people in this country who are that stupid.

These are the same people who think Harry Potter is trying to make your kid a Satanist and Spongebob is trying to make them gay.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:33 PM
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22. Dude....I live in Texas....Dallas to be exact.
I don't believe the story.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:50 PM
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33. Like I said
This story? Probably not true.

But half this country is stupid enough to at least entertain the thought of doing something like that. That's what scares me. :scared:
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:47 AM
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50. I thought it was the other way around!
Harry and Ron are far too close schoolchums, and Spongebob's starfish friend is shaped like a pentagram.

COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #5
27. Sounds like every bible thumper I ever heard
Maybe you just hang with a more refined set of fundamentalists.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. Believe unattributed random postings on USENET all you want.
Pass it along as fact if you want. I don't care.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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37. Relax Francis
I was kidding. I don't even know what usenet is, and I care even less. Luckily I have you to protect my impressionable mind from urban legends run amok.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Lol...you are lucky.
:evilgrin:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:57 PM
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39. Unfortunately, I do believe it
These fundies can be dumb as rocks and when viewing the "S" word, can become quite hysterical.

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:15 AM
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43. If You Think That's Not Believable
you haven't been around enough.

I know. I used to be a fundie. I would never have talked to anyone that way personally, but people that I knew did. For example, I was ordering Chinese takeout with a friend of mine when a woman ahead of us was making comments on those Chinese zodiac things. They exchanged some sort of pleasantries during which she said "So you don't believe in that?" And he said "No, I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ" and went from there.

Witnessing to nonbelievers is taken very seriously in certain circles. There is a lot of preparation. It may sound phony because it is, in the same way that a sales presentation is phony.

These people no doubt believe they are doing something good, even though I would wish they would keep it to themselves.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:20 AM
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46. I don't think the story as told is believable.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:23 AM by tx_dem41
Reeks of urban legend.

Let's call it the "Perfect Storm" merging of Kansas, Wal-Mart, and fundies. If they wanted people to really believe it, they should have placed it in some other state and put it in a different store.

As it is, I give it a D- (credit for typing a long story and adding emotion with caps and punctuation).
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:42 AM
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49. I Didn't Claim it Was True
I claimed it was a believable scenario. It may be an urban legend. But it can't be shown to be one on the grounds that it's implausible.
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BurningDog Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:02 AM
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51. Its definately an urban legend.
The same story has been told with dozens of different items that offended the fictional religious whackos. I think the orginal was a picture of the FreeBSD daemon on a tshirt.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:06 PM
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110. I believe him
These people go by a script. I've been ambushed by the same rhetoric - even as far back as the seventies. One thing about the christ cult is they're incurious, mostly inarticulate and diabolically consistent.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:40 PM
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112. I dunno. I've met a few people like that in my day.
Hell, in college, they used to meet next door every week to repent. (we would break out the Hare Krishna record and turn it up to 11).
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:18 AM
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122. You'd be surprised
My ex lived in the most rural of scary KKK infested areas in NC for a while, and she had plenty of stories like that.
Including the time she was at the library checking out a book on sharks (she's into marine biology) and a book on serial killers (she was studying criminal psychology and whatnot at the time in college) and some ultra-religious woman accused her of trying to resurrect the soul of Charles Manson in the body of a shark. (despite the fact that last I checked, he's still alive).
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:11 PM
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6. I would not have been able to resist playing with them...
...sort of like how my cat plays with mice before she destroys them.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:14 PM
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12. I agree...
Now that I am older and I have more "balls" than I did when I was 15.

I would have placed my hands on their sholders and said, "Have you ever wondered what the devil's plans are for you?" or "Oh, you know what, I had a message for you from the devil, he said he will see you this Friday night" and then wink at the man...
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:11 PM
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7. I would have told them to mind their own damn biss
If you wanted to here what they had to say, you would have asked for an opinion.

Bush has empowered these people to think that we give a shit. I am glad you are whatever faith you are. I really am, but stop it with thowing it on people.

TO me faith is personal...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:13 PM
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8. "Jesus wants to save you. It's not too late!"
Dear Devilgrrl,

You restrained much better than I ever could! Jeebus Christo! Know what I mean, Vern?

Mac

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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #8
30. Fools For Christ?
I believe there actually is a passage in the New Testament talking about Fools for Christ.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:13 PM
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9. Where in Kansas?
I think I know these people. LOL
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:14 PM
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10. We know your parents
:scared: Fundies just don't know how to play fair do they?

Gotta love em, bible says so. :rofl:
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:14 PM
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11. congrats
You have my sincerest condolences for having had to deal with a couple major league putzes such as you describe. And you have my congratulations on your discipline and self-control, I don't think I could have dealt as coolly with these folk as you did I'd have probably come a little unwrapped and gone ballistic on them which would probably only have served to convince then I truly was under the influence of the Dark One.Funny in retrospect, but almost scary in other ways and I don't envy you having had to put up with this.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:17 PM
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13. You are right with the Sha-tan and it's just the new Theocracy we live in.
Welcome to the new Bush Amerika. As a hockey fan there was a team in New Orleans called the Voodoo and I thought that jersey might rile some folks up too. I think they are in the ECHL.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:25 PM
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17. LMAO
Oh United States of Jesusland, how you make me simultaneously laugh and cry with your stupidity.

They really have no place for Earth logic in their tiny heads, do they?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:26 PM
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18. Satan plays for the Islanders now.
Though I wish the Devils would have signed him. That would be cool.
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:28 PM
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19. christianity will bring about the downfall of this country-
quite possibly the world.

there's not a doubt in my mind.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. "Christianity" will?
Not "fundamentalism", but "Christianity"?
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. fundamentalism is the nascar of christianity
but i don't see too many "regular"(for lack of a better word?) christians doing all that much standing up to the fundies in the public arena.
for instance- my mother isn't a fundy, but her "christianity" is what tells her that gay marriage is wrong.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #24
31. I appreciate your honesty....
Everytime we have a thread here where someone claims DU is anti-Christian, everyone says..."No, we're anti-Fundamentalism. We have no problem with Christianity. I don't see anti_Christian posts on DU. Only anti-Fundamentalism posts".

I always wonder why everyone suffers from selective amnesia.
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #31
44. i'm "anti" ALL organized religion...
it's just that christianity rules the roost in the u.s., and fundamentalists seem to constantly be setting the course, and the rest of the christians generally let them, and even fall in line to follow on along.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #31
61. I go the other way.
I 'admit' it. That always throws them off their game.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #31
84. I used to think that as well,
however, one too many "good" christians here on a supposedly progressive, all-inclusive board, have defended their bible in one too many discussions about gay people (that's ME, by the way) for me to continue thinking that way.

It really is the religion itself, and mostly because it refuses to change as society does. Further, it batters people into thinking it's the only truth, it must be believed by everyone, and everyone who doesn't deserves to be harassed for it.

I'm done. christianity is the only religion anyone regularly encounters that tries to make itself the only religion, period, and I'll not tolerate that anymore.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #84
89. The only religion that does that?
Respectfully, I doubt that. Islam and Judaism have such beliefs as well (and you encounter those everyday whether directly or indirectly).

And, not to wade into the "atheism is a religion" debate, but many, many Atheists believe that they are the only ones that are right and many don't tolerate anything else. So how is that different?

BTW...I am an Atheist.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. I'll tolerate it if they can follow this part of their own book:
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 01:13 PM by kgfnally
Mat 6 : 5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites : for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Mat 6 : 6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6 : 7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen : for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Mat 6 : 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

In other words, I think I'd just like 'em to follow their own rules and STFU. I'll not prevent their belief or the exercise of their religion, but I'd really rather not hear about it at all.

edited to add: there may well be an evangelical Jew or two, and I know there are a couple other religions that knock on doors, but I've never heard or seen any of them get even a fraction as obnoxious about "spreading the faith" as christians do.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #91
92. Do you want Atheists to follow those principles as well?
In other words not to tell others that they (Atheists) are right and ONLY they are right?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #92
93. If that's what they want to believe, fine,
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 01:15 PM by kgfnally
as long as they don't go shoving it down the throats of people they don't know.

Also, atheists don't have a holy book that commands them to, well, STFU.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. Neither do Jews (who don't have the New Testament) or
Muslims.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. Yes, and perhaps it's because they don't NEED verses like that.
And while there are Muslims who take their faith way over the top, the "good" Muslims I know and work with do not- ever- openly express their faith other than by wearing tradition clothing.

I don't even know if I personally know any Jews. Oh, wait, I do know of one- who never openly expresses his faith either.

But the christian lady I work with wear a jesus shirt every day, and the christian Asian guy I work with has a sign proclaiming his faith in his rear window so large he has about 4" of viewable rear window all along the edge of the whole piece of glass.

It really is the religion itself. It isn't "some believers".
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #97
98. I might point out that you are using singular anectdotes...
to shape your views of particular religions. So, respectfully, I can't believe it the "religion itself". Your very illustrations show it's "some believers".
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. This is over the entire course of my life
These are only two example of what occurs at the moment. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard "that's not a very christian thing to say" or some such.

Aside from that, being gay, I have to be wary of *all* of them. This religion does me harm by its teachings, and that's enough for me to feel comfortable in feeling the way I do.

Things are very different when you feel like you have a target painted on your forehead.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:41 PM
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103. My experiences over my life have colored my relationship with..
religion as well, I admit. I find that the actual Christians I meet are not nearly the caricatures that are given on this board and others. I am not saying that "rabid Fundies" don't exist, and that we shouldn't be concerned by their rise, but my personal experiences have shown that there is a great deal more diversity in the ranks of Christianity than non-Christians will admit. That is why I bristle at the use of a broadbrush (no pun intended).
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:56 PM
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121. There are Jews who go around re-claiming lost tribes of Israel
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 10:57 PM by IanDB1
The most famous being the Ethiopian Jews that pretty much everyone seems to know about.

A couple months ago I learned that there was an ethnic group in India that Indian government gave Israel permission to go evangelize to (they need permits). I don't remember the details, but it sounded like those folks in India had some very Jewish traditions. It's possible they actually are descendent's of a Jewish diaspora.

Other than those guys and "Jews for Jesus" who only try and recruit Jews into The Jesus Fanclub, I don't know of any "Sidewalk Rabbis" or "Door-to-Door Judaism Evangelists."

In fact, Judaism intentionally makes it difficult for someone to convert, and a rabbi is supposed to try to talk you out of it. Between that and the whole "elective penis surgery" Judaism has a pretty poor marketing plan. It really isn't a formula to remain competitive in today's busy religion marketplace.

But then there's that whole Kabbalah thing which lets you practice a sort of "Jewish Wicca" without having to actually become Jewish-- and they have lots of knick-knacks they can sell you. Bracelets to ward off The Evil Eye, and a sort of Jewish Holy Water that Katherine Harris bought with taxpayer money to try and cure Florida's Citrus Canker. But even those guys don't ring your doorbell.

And nobody is going to sue Wal-Mart for not saying, "Happy Chanukah!"

Although I might sue them for not greeting me with, "May you be touched by his noodly appendage."

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:59 PM
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109. Been to my website lately?
Where, exactly do you propose that christians "stand up"?

All the local media here is controlled by fundies (except possibly the Globe and Mail).
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:33 PM
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21. Dammit! I TOTALLY want that jersey now!
But I live in a large urban area. I doubt it'd get much play.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:57 AM
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54. Bouncy Ball, you can get it online
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:43 PM
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25. As a Wings fan
I would have lectured you for wearing the Patty Roy jersey! Now that is a sin!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:46 PM
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26. Just Wait 'Til They Hear About The Satan's Cheerleaders
Just wait until those pious folks hear about the Satan's Cheerleaders--Squad 666 out of Texas. I think they've still got a website and might still have some of their gear for sale.

The Cheerleaders' logo with the Texas flag with the sign of Baphomet in place of the star might rattle some right-wing Republican cages. :evilgrin:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:47 PM
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28. Love this. Love Satan.
My favorite Hockey player name, hands down. I was happy to see he came back when the season started, even though he's on that other NY Team.

I wonder what would happen if it were a NJ Devils Jersey with Satan's name on it?

Probably stone the poor thing to death right in the Walmart.

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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:47 PM
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29. try going out in ACTUAL Satanic (regalia? paraphernalia? lol)
My lover had some moron follow him in his car all the way to a parking lot to accost him. We get attacked, verbally and sometimes with thrown objects or even physically. Free country, my ass.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:51 PM
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35. Shit, I've had people accost me coming back from Ren faires
While I was in my garb.

People are stupid and fucked up.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:49 PM
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32. Isn't that harassment?
Someone following you around and doing that? I'm a Christian but I would never go up to someone and try to convert them for wearing a jersey. The shopping center is not the place to do so.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:52 PM
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36. What idiots
Even if they're not hockey fans, they're insane to take it that seriously. Yeah, a person who's out doing some shopping is out to convert them to Satanism.

:dunce:

:freak:

Why can't the dumb people just stay home?
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:03 AM
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40. Story sounds a little "snopesy"
but I still have no problem believing it. We had a Repiglican congressional candidate here a couple of years ago who said Harry Potter books were invitations to witchcraft and dangerous to childrens' souls. And years and years ago some fundies outside the movie theater told me I'd go to hell for seeing "Life of Brian." Got the same treatment over "Last Temptation of Christ."

The freaks are out there.

:wtf:
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:11 AM
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41. If it's not real, it's certainly
possible.

A long time ago, when I was younger and more polite, I had the local evangelists try to convert me during a visit to my home. They were, unfortunately, parents of a friend of mine,which is how they got in the door.

When they went into their spiel, I stopped them with, "I'm sorry, I'm a Jew, and don't believe in Jesus."

Her answer?

"That's allright dear, God forgives all sins..." and she went right on talking.

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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:14 AM
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42. You got one of the mild ones!
Most of the fundies are in a froth for Jesus to come back extra-super-double-quick b/c in their millenialist eschatology when he does, they'll get to kill 'em some Jews.

No kidding. It's why I can't understand when Israeli groups get in bed with the likes of Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson and Falwell and the like.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:19 AM
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45. They Would Go Out of Their Minds in Germany
All the TV dishes are marked "SatAn" in big letters. (It's short for satellite antenna.)
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:18 AM
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58. Dang, I'm surprised that...
...someone like Jack Chick or Texe Marrs (what a knobshine that guy is!) hasn't glommed onto that as "evidence" that global networking is the work of the Beast! :lmao:

Silly fundie dispensationalists...dang they crack me up!

Todd in Beerbratistan
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:23 AM
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47. I almost bought that jersey -- then he left Buffalo.
Sucks to -- cause he's having a pretty good year for the Islanders.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:23 AM
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48. I should try wearing my Black Sabbath shirt when I fly on Thursday...
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:26 AM by EOO
I have a connection in Houston, Texas. Should be quite fun!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:21 AM
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52. Glad I wasen;t
Wearing my Satanic shirt. I designed it a few years ago. It's a jesus fish speared through and wriggling on a two pronged fork with satan on the handle.LOL.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:22 AM
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53. Art for Dog's Sake...
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 03:23 AM by Ferret Mike
has a store in Portland Saturday Market's Skidmore Fountain Building.

The name is a joke meaning they run the place to keep their dogs in kibbles and to pay the vet bills. Gunther who is on their site's splash page even paints with his paws running around on canvas dribbled with non toxic paint.

But many times a fundie will come in and start blistering their ears over a perceived slight of the deity and accuse them of a play on the spoofish saying, "Dog is dead."

If stupidity was painful, these people with delusions of rapture would be rolling around on the ground screaming their bloody heads off.

http://artfordogssakegallery.com/
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:02 AM
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55. LOL!
:rofl:



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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:10 AM
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56. Over the top! Could be just the Walmart thang.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:20 AM
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59. Next time...
...say, "yeah, I know I'm going to Hell. In fact, I'm looking forward to it. The people there are a LOT more interesting than the ones who think they're going to Heaven."

My favorite Devil shirts:

1. God's busy, can I help you?
2. Satan loves you, but I'm his favorite.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:36 AM
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123. my favorite comeback to being told i'm going to hell
"your gonna go to hell for (i dunno, shitting sideways...pick something)!"

"oh thank god! i thought i was going to be stuck with being around jackasses like you even in the afterlife!"

and another

"good! because wherever i'll be, as long as it doesn't have people like you there it will be a heaven for me!"

tends to shut em up right quick. in fact, i quite look forward to their visions of hell -- the nicest part is none of them and their friends will be there. sounds sorta like paradise.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:23 AM
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60. Here is Miroslav's picture, and there may be something to it....
He does look a little like SATAN!!!!! :rofl:




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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:15 AM
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70. Scary eyebrows, goatee, just the hint of a forked tail behind
his shoulder... SATAN!!!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:25 AM
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62. Freepers, great at minding everybody's business as if it was their own
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:54 AM
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63. Hell has indeed frozen over
And the Devil's gone ice skating.

That's what you ought to tell those wackos.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:00 AM
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64. Since I live in Raleigh, the home of the Hurricanes,
you see Satan's jersey all the time when we play them, even at our arena. But even though this is the south, I guess people around here know and have enough since to know it isn't the satan of the bible. Kansas well, is Kansas.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:01 AM
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66. A similar thing happened on Seinfeld.
Elaine's boyfriend Puddy,was a fan of the New Jersey Devil's hockey team. He painted his face with the logo and ran into a priest on the street.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:02 AM
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67. Why did you even walk into a Walmart...???
nt
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:28 AM
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71. I think it's fascinating that someone would want an entire
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 10:29 AM by ArkDem
wardrobe of hockey jerseys.:shrug:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:33 AM
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72. I know a few here
in Raleigh that collect a few. They also stand to get them autographed when team buses pull up to the arena. They also go to our practices to get our team sweaters signed. Sometimes, they end up being worth quite a bit of money.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:36 AM
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78. Well, you know, hockey is really big in Kansas.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:39 PM
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79. I guess you have me there.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:44 PM by mmonk
Still, I would think they could be reasoned with when explained who Satan is. She may have moved to Kansas or is just simply a fan of the sport and keeps up with it.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:08 PM
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113. Or the story was made up.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:08 AM
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75. Other names you won´t see on jerseys in Kansas
Cory Pecker
Per Djoos
Peter Leboutiller
Dave Snuggerud
Daren Puppa
Nemo Laphoque
Jonny SanViagra
Ron Tugnut
Dan Blackburn
Paul Dyck
Radek Bonk
Bob Beers
Dick Duff

Ifflakuta Toto is however very popular...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:25 AM
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77. you have me feeling very much like a ten year old boy...
but i'm going to keep my giggles to myself.

i uh i er am more refined than that -- choke, cough, gasp, gag.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:32 PM
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104. Radek Bonk fan club
I'm no hockey fan, so I'd never heard of any of these guys. For the next couple of days, I will walk around inexplicably smirking whenever I think of some of these names, for example "Ron Tugnutt." Thanks for the chuckle.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:20 AM
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76. Repent or go to Hell...With you folks I feel like I am already there...
Hell is a mindset and Republicans are determined to make life a living Hell for the Majority in the World....
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:41 PM
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80. Hilarious! Thanks for sharing!
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:42 PM by Oreo

Satan passes to Jesus... he shoots... HE SCORES!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:57 PM
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85. goal Jesus, his fifth of the year,
assisted by Satan. Love it.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:45 PM
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82. That shows the level of ignorance and fear that emanates
from that religion.

These were very likely otherwise "good christians" who were "legitimately" trying to save their soul. That they didn't even consider the possibility that the explanation of the name might be literally, 100% true.

Their fear of being human, of having a good time in life, and of being judged for doing so makes them do crazy crap like this- and it really is most of them. I wonder how many "christians" there really were among the people who were making comments in the store. My guess would be 100% of the people who said anything negative were "christians".

I don't need to "bash" this religion. In these modern times, it does that to itself quite effectively.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:53 PM
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83. That's just nuts. Some people are crazy. *shaking head*
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:59 PM
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86. Fucking hilarious.
People are out of their minds. You are too nice. I would have taunted them, maybe even tempted them. :D
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:01 PM
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87. Rings of an urban legend to me, but I like it!
And who knows, it could be true. Stranger things have happened.
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Shadowen Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:03 PM
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88. Ah, if only he played for the Devils.
That would be priceless.
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Err Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:17 PM
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95. If that guy played for the Devils...
I'd so buy that jersey. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:18 PM
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96. It's a good thing somebody is advertising for satan.
He needs more souls.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:26 PM
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99. she was way more polite then I would have been


nt
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:29 PM
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100. I would have never gotten into that much conversation with them.
I'm afraid the first word they said to me I would have told them to bite me and get a life.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:37 PM
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102. Are they familiar with The Goat of Mendes Satanic Salute / Hand Signal?
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 01:41 PM by IanDB1











Associated Press and Reuters called the above bush family hand signs the 'Texas Longhorn or 'Texas UT' symbol. People still seem to think the signal is solely the 'hook 'em horns' UT symbol. We know this to be true but this doesn't answer our primary questions.

1) If the symbol denotes Texas football or UT, why are people like Silvio Berlusconi and Bill Clinton doing it too? They have no links with Texas.

2) Why is the Bush family so obsessed with the signal, displaying it dozens of times during both the inauguration and the evening ball? A few times maybe we could accept, but why this many? What has Texas sports got do with a national inauguration?

3) By Bush being an occult member of Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, it certainly shouldn't be surprising that people would suspect him of praising Satan. Why would any Christian belong to an occult organization?

Below are some photos where the hand gesture is used in a clearly Satanic context:

More:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm



Also: Bush Family Denies Christmas



Related Thread:
Laura Bush just wished everyone "Happy Holidays" (twice) on live TV (CNN)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5465224
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Your_Moment_Of_Zen Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:40 PM
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118. Is Jenna really doing the shocker?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:34 PM
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105. I love it!!!
Me: "He's from the old Soviet Block and is a hockey player. It's
pronounced, "Sha-tan" (Hope I got that right)."

Them: "Then why isn't it spelled that way?"


I love these twats! As if all Alphabets must be the same as the English one! Stupid freaking fundies. I would have right hooked the SOBs.

He was born in Czecheslovakia when it existed. I'm pretty sure he's Slovak and not Czeck. You are right it is pronounced "Shaytan."

http://www.slovak.com/language/alphabet/q_-_s/q_-_s.html
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:45 PM
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106. Yes, he is Slovak
and plays for the Slovakian Olympic team when he is chosen.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:57 PM
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115. Ironically his name translates as
"Lover of Peace" according to a friend of mine with the same name.

Wonder what the fundies think of that...
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:50 PM
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107. You should've mentioned the position he plays.
Right Wing. }(
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:52 PM
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108. "a true story from a message board I frequent"
Yuh. You know it's true... HOW?

Just wonderin'.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:35 PM
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111. Yet, ANOTHER reason to avoid Walmart!!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:15 PM
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114. Jesus saves... but Satan nets the rebound!
One of these fine days ol' Miroslav should hook up with a certain team in New Jersey. That'd just about make the nut... :evilgrin:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:35 PM
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116. I wear this one to Costco...
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 08:37 PM by calipendence
But haven't gotten around yet to "invading" Wal-Mart with it yet.



http://www.cafepress.com/chinamart
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:42 PM
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119. I wonder who made them say that. Could it be ....
SATAN?!!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:08 PM
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120. write a letter to the editor, lambaste them. bigots
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