Blitzer - CNN - Iraq bad intelligence Clinton's fault.

[FloridaPat]

Dr. Kissinger just said that the dismantling of the CIA with experts - which as I remember was supposedly under Clinton - is the reason * got such bad information. He sure does a good job of defending the incompetent.

[TheGunslinger]

1. Yeah, Feith stovepiping info from Chalabi bypassing the CIA

had nothing to do with it.

:eyes:

[Wetzelbill]

2. Why do you hate Mercka?

:)

[Zambero]

17. Kissinger also assisted Nixon in communicating with dead ex-presidents

The night before Tricky officially resigned. Apparently, he still retains the ability to leave the present and travel backwards in time, as a convenient means of affixing the blame for current policy disasters and other recent bad decisions on ex-presidents.

[TheGunslinger]

27. Maybe Kissinger is really John Titor??

BTW, Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[tularetom]

3. How does a known war criminal

have any credibility at all. Of course Wolf is probably intimidated by him.

[flordehinojos]

5. since wolf is talking generationally, (clinton came before bush)

let's talk generationally about wolfie.

Question? What part of Europe did his parents come from, since Wolf is obviously, at least, White and American.

And... with a name like Blitzer, did they come from Germany, or from anywhere where Hitler and his brown shirt, jack booted boys held on to power?

In such a case, where his parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc.
part of the HITLER SUPPORT SYSTEM, part of their army, part of their gestapo, part of their government?

Did the Blitzers come here after the reign of Hitler?

Were they trying to escape any sort of Nurember trials?

None of that is listed in Blitzers biography as a CNN ANCHOR...but it would just be so interesting to know.

[NYCGirl]

So everyone who's family came from Germany might have been a Nazi?

How GOP of you.

Does that apply to Al Franken's family or only to people you don't like.

[flordehinojos]

12. i was, and am, asking about wolf, based on his political stance which is

so BUSH WHITE/SUPREMACY inclined.

However, are you deflecting the seriousness of my question by diverting the intent of it, or branding me as GOP, especially after I am giving to Wolf what he is giving to Clinton?

[NYCGirl]

14. Blitzer is Jewish, BTW.

Personally, I have no idea what Blitzer's political stance is, differentiated from CNN's political stance, which Blitzer is representing.

From what I can tell from the original post, Blitzer didn't mention Clinton. His guest, Kissinger, made a statement that actually didn't mention Clinton either, but implied it.

Sliming anyone with the "Nazi card" is low. There must be other ways to disparage Blitzer without questioning his parentage's political views.

And remember, in debating, the first one to say "Nazi" loses.

http://www.nndb.com/people/171/000024099/

Edited for typo.

[flordehinojos]

18. wow! what an illuminating fact about blitzer who, if he is selling hissoul

to CNN for 30 silver coins, points ever more so to the sort of weasel that permeates the bush administration...so now, more than ever, it becomes more interesting and imperative just really what sort of history is behind blitzer, what sort of values he learned, and why does he shill for the bushboy time, after time, after time.

[Clark2008]

22. His real first name is Leslie...

can we slime him with that?

:evilgrin:

(And the name, Leslie, is a perfectly fine name. It's just the shit made himself sound like he thought it was less-than-masculine or he wouldn't have changed his name to "Wolf.")

[baldguy]

4. Bush purged the CIA of those who are "politically unreliable"

Basically, anyone who did their job & told the truth were removed. THAT'S why he got bad intel - he WANTED it that way.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Right. Cheney was tired of planting his ass at the CIA offices so he could

cherry-pick the intel. Getting rid of the honest agents made it possible to not have to cherry-pick...the remaining agents KNEW what kind of info the cabal wanted.

[occuserpens]

6. I think it is like with Kerry and 2004 elections

Clinton never did much (if anything at all) to object the GOP smear. The way it goes, we are supposed to do this.
Same way, Kerry was pretty comfortable with vote-rigging in 2004.
Conclusion: political process is not suicide watch. If rightist dems want to die politically, it is all their buisness.

[FreedomAngel82]

8. Oh yes

It's all Clinton's fault that Bush is the one who decided to go to war. :sarcasm:

[Bob3]

9. I wouldn't believe kissinger if he said the sky was blue.

Remember there was the secret bombing of cambodia - well the Cambodians knew, we were being kept in the dark. He denied that for years.

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Bush also purged the CIA

Bush last December purged the CIA. Anyone who wasn't a "yes" person got fired.

[Kierkegaard]

11. That's one of the most asinine things I've ever heard.

There wasn't anything wrong with the intelligence. *Ass-bag just ignored the parts that he didn't agree with.

[leeroysphitz]

13. Why the f@ck are they STILL running against Clinton

almost TEN years after his last campaign???

[proud patriot]

15. Which country is Kissinger wanted for questioning ?

Send Kissinger there .

[Mz Pip]

16. If that's the case

then BushCo should have been extra careful before going to war. Clinton didn't go to war.

Sorry, but this rationale doesn't fly. BushCo took over and it was his responsibility to beef up the CIA if he thought it was weadened. He had no business going to war based on intelligence from the previous adminsitration if they had doubts aboaut it.

This makes Bush look even more incompetent in my mind. They didn't like Clinton, didn't trust his CIA but still used their intel to go to war. :eyes:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[mzmolly]

19. WHAT BAD INFORMATION?! Wilson was the intelligence community

Clark was the intelligence community, Scott Ritter was ... , Hans Blix was ..., the many people who resigned in frustration were ...

The intelligence was fine, how it was manipulated was not.

Three words "Downing Street Memo."

GRR!

[DaveinMD]

20. the Intelligence wasn't bad

it was manipulated

[occuserpens]

21. One simple question - again, again and again: where is WJC himself?

He is smeared quite for some time, but never fights back.

why? why? why?

[acmavm]

23. The infamous 'Dr.' Kissenger is a war criminal. The end.

.

[chat_noir]

24. WHY KISSINGER WAS RIGHT TO RESIGN FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION

Last week, Henry Kissinger resigned from the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (commonly known as the "9/11 Commission"). His resignation came as a shock to many, including the President.

I suspect, however, that many in the White House are secretly relieved. They must realize now that, despite his many talents, Kissinger--perhaps unjustly--would never have been accepted as an honest broker by the families of the victims of 9/11.

On the morning of the day of his resignation, Kissinger offered a compromise: He would reveal the clients' names, but only to members of the families of the victims of 9/11, and only if they signed an agreement never to reveal those names. Whether the families would have agreed to public secrecy and private access is not clear, and is now a moot point: Kissinger resigned before it could be resolved.

Some have speculated that the disclosure issue was merely a fig leaf for other reasons Kissinger might have wanted to step down. After all, Kissinger's appointment was controversial: A few American commentators, and many international one, had interpreted it as an affront to the international human rights community. Indeed, it is possible that human rights attorneys may someday ask a judge abroad (In Spain? Belgium? England?) to indict Kissinger for alleged war crimes, in the same way that Pinochet was indicted. Kissinger might have stepped down, at least in theory, to avoid further talk of such an indictment.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/sebok/20021216.html

[occuserpens]

26. well, that's 2002 article

[Marr]

25. All old intel became meaningless the moment UN Inspectors were in Iraq.

Period. They checked the suspected sites and found nothing.

And that's being very generous, since the intel did not support the Bush Admin.'s claims anyway.

[Peter Frank]

28. K & R...

edit for formatting



What a friggin' crock --

Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.

The information was provided to Bush on September 21, 2001 during the "President's Daily Brief,"<snip>

http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2005/1122nj1.htm