John Warner just said the Bush family is known for it's integrity ....

[Wetzelbill]

in public service. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh lord, if that doesn't take the cake.

You know, I haven't seen Warner all that much on tv or anything. He's not that impressive a guy. Not from an intelligence standpoint. He just doesn't seem too sharp. One thing about Joe Biden, who is on MTP with Warner, he is a smart guy, he's always well prepared and articulate. Sure, I have problems with Biden's opinions on certain issues, etc, but the guy is pretty intelligent. He worked Warner like a job a couple times. Pretty thoroughly too. I had heard that Warner is "intellectually challenged" but I never thought too much of it. Partisan people always regard the other side as stupid you know? Unless it's absolutely obvious, as in the case of The Chimp, I don't really put too much stock in it. And, Warner always seemed pretty moderate to me, so I never had a problem with him. I don't know maybe he wasn't on his game today or something, he just didn't seem impressive at all.

[PDittie]

1. Thanks for posting

Now I don't have to make myself sick by watching (comes on at the top of the hour here).

[Wetzelbill]

4. it's not too bad

but, really you probably will not learn anything you already didn't know.

[saltpoint]

2. You said a mouthful, Senator Warner. And I heard that

Captain Ahab doesn't much care if he gets that whale or not.

[Wetzelbill]

8. or Holden Caulfield don't much care

uh....

I have nothing. :)

[ClintonTyree]

3. Yeah, Prescott set the example for the rest of the family.........

by doing business with the Nazis. Integrity. That's one word I've NEVER heard in association with the BFEE. :eyes:

[Wetzelbill]

6. doing business with the Nazis, the bin ladens

it's all part of the integrity of the Bushes alright. :)

[Gildor Inglorion]

5. "integrity" = lying, cheating, stealing...

why, of course. It's a definition in the REPUBLICAN sense, where up is down and black is white if THEY say so. The Bushes just ooooooze integrity. And I'm the late Queen of Sheba. By the way, isn't Warner one of Dame Elizabeth Taylor's discarded boy-toys? There must be MORE to him than meets the eye, I guess. *hehehe*
:eyes:

[Wetzelbill]

7. anybody have a ruler?

:)

[DemonFighterLives]

9. I almost blew my breakfast

:puke:
Silly deluded bastard has taken his stand with the crime family.
Acting like the intelligence was ok.
Biden had to correct little timmy once again that the IWR was not a vote for war.
They seem to want to lay all the blame at the dems feet for allowing dubby to start a fight.

[Wetzelbill]

13. you know, voting for the IWR

had some merit, because it gave the U.N. some teeth when it came to enforcing the resolution to allow weapons inspectors into Iraq. I doubt I would have voted for it, you know? However I could see and I don't hold it against those who did and admit it was a mistake. Dems didn't start a war, this President did. He made the decision, no Dem gave it a full on green light. No Dem in Congress, if they were President right now, would have been foolish enough to just start a war for no reason like that.

Russert should be able to differentiate between that. Unless he was just asking the question so that Biden could clarify that point, but in that case he'd be lobbing a guy a softball on a pretty inane topic. I don't know why he would do that. Biden was pretty agressive today though. He wasn't bad to watch and listen to.

[DemonFighterLives]

29. The reolution itself was ok if it was handed to a competent party

in the White House. We did not have that though. dubby wanted war and his neocon Pnac crew was more than willing to start it without the approval of the congress or the UN. Biden said he would not have given dumbya the power if he could revote.

The inspectors were in and Saddam sent out his Weapons declaration only to have it intercepted by the neocons and altered. I wonder what was in all those missing pages?

[slaveplanet]

35. They are paid to represent the public

Part of that representation is discernment...Ihe ability to discern whether or not you are handing the public trust to an Idiot mego-maniacal madman, or not...

Some now are claiming they were duped....they were not...
they just lacked discernment that is so obvious to a great deal of the public

We do not need dupes ...we need intelligent , courageous , and above all discerning representatives....

It would go a long way to eliminate second guessing

[Wetzelbill]

60. yeah, you need to have some foresight

you know?

They should have at least had an idea by then that the guy is so inept and his crew in the WH are about half nuts, so you would think they'd put two and two together and not give this guy too much rein.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. I yelled at the tv, liar!!!!! It tells you something about his own

integrity!!!!

[DemonFighterLives]

30. It tells me he has none.

Yeah these war criminals over here have a lot of integrity.
:silly:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

37. It's actually very easy DemonFighterLives...just take whatever they

say im reverse, and then you know what the truth is.

[DemonFighterLives]

41. That's right

The old back masking trick - one of the devil's oldest.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. If you notice, due to his limited capacity, the Shrub will screw it up..

ie... bringing chaos out of order. ;-)

[serryjw]

50. ME TOO! ME TOO!

I was taking a bite when he said that!:hide: the man is scary

[DemonFighterLives]

57. Glad I wasn't alone

:thumbsup:

[htuttle]

10. "The Corleone family is known for it's integrity..."

:eyes:

[Wetzelbill]

14. don't ever go against the family!

:)

[dusmcj]

11. we could evaluate their record

and avoid the unpleasantness of excavating links to Nazis, Templars, Masons and Greys. Just examine their record in the White House. Seems to me the executive summary would be "they suck". They should be given the opportunity to retire gracefully from the field, with the understanding that they will never, in perpetuity, be considered for national office.

Another brush with nobility which America needs to get past.

The fact that they're trotting out the old reliable mumblers like Warner as human shields is a good sign. Liz Taylor, Babs and Ann Coulter, three of a kind.

[speedoo]

12. Warner is just plain stupid.

He is looking like a real dumbass on MTP.

Trying to back off a little bit, he just looks stupid.

Biden on the other hand at least flat out says his IWR vote was wrong, because the bushistas lied (will he did not say lied, but he basically is saying that).

[zippy890]

17. he looks REALLY stupid

what a sorry state our politics is in

[Conker]

33. Actually I think most Repubs look like pure evil...

with the exception of Bush looking so stupid.

[TahitiNut]

22. He's just another heirhead. I think he's an empty suit - dumber than

... a box of rocks. He blusters and postures, substituting pomposity for erudition. He's got the ACT of strong father-figure down pat if one's idea of a "father-figure" is lacking in compassion, immune to reason, impatient, and unforgiving. He disgusts me.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

28. he once was voted the dumbest senator by his colleagues

if i remember correctly, it was in the '80s and the wapo

had it in the style section for the early edition and warner had them

remove it for the late edition.

[Wetzelbill]

62. I heard something similar

so yeah, your memory is probably pretty accurate, it was something like that anyway.

[madokie]

15. I agree with what you're saying

There is no person my wife included that I totally agree with, some things I strongly disagree with them on and sometimes they likewise. I would vote for Biden if he was the nominee. I like to set and watch him on cspan, always prepared and quick on his feet so to say. At least he still has some semblance of what our constitution is all about. He's a good man. I would probably not vote for him in the primaries though, unless he is the better man. My dad used to say he voted for the better man, somehow that was always a repuke. I vote for the better Democrat, no repukes allowed... anyways.

[sandrakae]

16. The dude was married to Elizabeth Taylor.

Why would anyone care what he thinks. He probably says the same thing about the Gotti family.

[joanski0]

53. At least Liz Taylor was smart enough to

call Warner "Senator Asshole", and then she divorced him.

[texpatriot2004]

18. Silverado Savings & Loan - Public payed the bill for * family nm

[texpatriot2004]

19. Small Business Administration Scandal nm

[Wetzelbill]

20. didn't Poppy help get the Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI)

started when he was head of the CIA?

[pretzel4gore]

21. harken oil says geeb (brother of 'jeb') isn't like the rest

the honest and ones fulla integrity, like neil and marvin and barb the impaler

[tinfoilinfor2005]

23. The minute he said it, my husband and I cracked up laughing,

and I was thinking about all my DU pals watching and having the same reaction. I could almost feel the country rocking with laughter.

And yes, I liked the fact that Biden comes prepared to check little Timmy who often makes out like he is the arbiter of truth and justice in America. He likes to take words out of context and Joe was more than ready for his tricks.

[demnan]

25. He spoke at my College graduation

he was a Senator from Virginia then and that was 26 years ago. (Liz Taylor was supposed to attend but she was drunk at home in bed - the way she spent most of their marriage).

He is a boring son-of-a-bitch for sure. The only fine moment in life he ever had was to refuse to endorse Ollie North as a candidate for Senator.

How does someone get elected year after year and no one even runs against him! I really don't know.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

26. just like the Catholic church is reknown for its celibacy with kids.

The exceptions always prove the rule.
That said, there sure seem to be a lot of exceptions.

[LSK]

27. pictures dont lie

Just look at those values!!

[Marr]

32. You know- I never noticed it before- but does Jenna have a joint in

her hand in that photo? If it's a cigarette, it's an awfully small one. Look at Jenna's right hand and then check on her friend's left hand (with a cigarette) for comparison. Jenna's looks like it's holding a joint.

[Conker]

31. I saw that on MTP, too.

When I heard that I immediately thought "that's bullshit."

[blm]

34. Then Warner shouldn't be averse to opening up the BCCI books, right?

Watch how fast Warner wants to keep the American people from learning the tRUTH about the Bush family.

[Wetzelbill]

61. hahahahaha

or they won't mind releasing Poppy's presidential papers and The Chimp's papers from his years as Texas Governor. Those are all locked away hiding all sorts of goodies, I'm sure. :)

[Vanje]

36. Well sure. Integrity.

Like Tom Delay.

Integrity. It means he is a short-haired white guy who wears a suit.

[johnfunk]

38. Warner spoke highly of Prescott "I Luv Nazis!" Bush

After all, Fascist Gramps WAS a distinguished Senator...

[Patsy Stone]

39. Integrity

I cracked up when I heard that. He tap danced through most of that interview, and sounded like a doddering old man.

Also, later on MTP, David Broder's statement that Americans are are ready to move past whether or not we were lied to about the war remains unchecked. That was a giant assumption and non-substantiated point that Tim let go.

Bad, Tim!

[Wetzelbill]

42. good point about Broder

Yeah, I hate that when those insulated inside-the-Beltway types make stupid comments like that. So Broder knows this by his great wealth of experience among the great masses of American people, I'm sure. Or he just heard some clown say it on Hardball and decided to repeat it. It reminded me of when Howard Fineman said that Al Sharpton's speech at the Dem Convention might actually turn off the black vote. Ok, buddy, how the eff would you know? :)

Broder is so insulated you can virtually disregard almost anything he says about the American people, he just doesn't know anything about what a regular person is like.

[FreedomAngel82]

40. If you call self-service public service than yeah

And I do agree about Biden.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

43. Putting on flame suit

but before I discovered DU I thought they WERE known for integrity.

I thought GWB was just a bad seed.

Don't hurt me; I was stupid.

[Wetzelbill]

46. well, Bush Sr isn't a polarizing figure

He's a pretty even tempered guy, from the Northeast etc, spent decades of public service in various positions. And, compared to Reagan his politics came across as a little bit kinder and gentler. So, his status quo reputation is pretty good. His big problem there is he always seemed a little elitist and out of touch, but being priveleged is hardly a crime in most people's minds, you know? So he was able to get over that a little bit. Only once you start looking at his business background and so on then you start seeing how shady the guy is, but it takes a lot of personal research to start learning these things. The MSM tends to kiss ass on authority figures, so most of our perceptions of a guy like Poppy is that he basically was a decent guy, not much of a president perhaps, but most of us have it in our nature to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I can see why you would. :)

[TallahasseeGrannie]

48. Sadly, I always liked Bush I

because he reminded me of my own dad. He was that generation, but my dad was a man of total integrity. So close but no cigar, I guess.

[msongs]

44. glib pretty boy enables the oppressors...a TV candidate for sure nt

isn't the the one that was married to Liz?

Msongs
www.msongs.com

[Wetzelbill]

45. yes he was

:)

[ladjf]

47. Warner just lost his in one amazing statement.

[Wetzelbill]

63. LOL

nice zinger. Muchos props!

:toast:

[mainer]

51. John Warner used federal funds to pay for prostitutes

It hasn't been reported, but I happen to know a private limo driver who used to drive girls to service Warner. And the girls laughed that they were paid with a government credit card.

[Wetzelbill]

59. well, now I actually like the guy

at least getting laid has more honor than bragging on the Bush family. :)

[otohara]

52. Did Biden Start Laughing?

did he fall off his chair and do this? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DemonFighterLives]

56. He covered his mouth with his hand and kind of snorked

Of course one wouldn't want to cross b*shco in public.
:spray:

[gulfcoastliberal]

54. Link to a good Warner/DLC smackdown (My DD)

http://gary-boatwright.mydd.com/story/2005/10/30/202312/58

[Vinca]

55. I nearly spewed coffee all over the screen when I heard him say that.

Integrity and Bush are words that should not be used in the same sentence.

[Wetzelbill]

58. Me too!

I almost couldn't believe that he said it. :)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

64. Yeah...Warner really knows integrity.

[Wetzelbill]

65. about how Brownie knows disaster prevention

:)