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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:19 PM
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Tell your Thanksgiving family gathering political argument horror stories.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:23 PM
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1. Sorry to disapoint but we had a very nice family gathering
the taters were great, the turkey was fine (even though my sister cooked it), the veggies were great, and the freshly made cranberries were delish... the turkey is now cooking for the ever so popular turkey soup.

But we are all on the left side of the spectrum... that helps

;-)

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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:24 PM
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2. I was lucky this year
We had a small Thanksgiving and everyone at the table was grateful that we were all anti-Bush! We were able to relax and enjoy the meal and some low-key conversation.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:32 PM
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3. Politically alright
had a nice Bush-bashing discussion with my boyfriend but then we got into an argument about other stuff. :banghead: :-(
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:33 PM
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4. My sisters girlfriend was sticking up for Bono, who I shit on for hanging
with the likes Rep. Sweeney and other Repukers, but don't get me wrong, the only person annoyed by the conversation, ( my sister ) asked us to shut up and listen to the new Madonna album, to which we laughed.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:35 PM
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5. I was called "part of the blame America first crowd"..
.. by a lifelong Dem in-law. :( (During the saying of grace at the table I said thanks for the phosphorous bombing of civilians in Fallujah - sarcastically.)

I was shocked and awed (and visibly upset).

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:36 PM
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6. No horror stories
but an interesting development. My freeper BIL has a great mother. She is an 80 year old life long Republican who hates bush and voted for Kerry.

She told me yesterday that she got a satellite radio and has been listening to Air America. She said her son was ready to kill her but she knew I would be proud of her. LOL
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:41 PM
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7. Well, my extremely fundie cousin and I got into it.
She was sitting on the couch quietly feeding the baby when I said, "We really have to do away with this administration."

(She, and two other cousins who happened to be sitting nearby, came to this country from Colombia ~ 12 years ago).

She got quite furious and told me that "The Bible says that we should support the president." She stood up and handed the baby off to one of the other cousins...Her face got all red and she stalked off.

When she returned we started in on her about what Jesus would have done. I said, "You are very spiritual, Do you think Jesus would have started this war and killed all these poor Iraqi people??" I gently explained many of the lies they (Bushco.) were perpetrating and, spoke of the war profiteering.

I could see the wheels turning. My other Colombian cousin (who was now holding the baby!) started ranting about the FAKE War on drugs that the US is waging in Colombia. (( She has a PhD in plant physiology (earned in this country)). So, I took the opportunity to launch into the admin pushing GE foods on us and the rest of the world.

It was great fun! Poor fundie cousin grabbed her kid back and tried to change the subject. We abided and let her know that we loved her all the same. But, I gaurentee she is thinking differently NOW!
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:24 PM
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11. "The Bible says that we should support the president."?
I must have missed that lesson during Sunday school way back when. Any chance you asked her whether she supported Clinton as the right-wingnuts attacked him over files, travel staffers, money-losing land deals, hummers, etc.?
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:00 PM
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12. The Bible unequivocally Opposes the Shrub in every way!!!!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 03:27 AM
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16. I missed that too
and I not only went to Sunday school but my parents sent me to a religious private school instead of the local public school. All those years of religion learning, money spent and my teachers missed teaching that section of the bible. :sarcasm:
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:58 AM
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20. Where does the Bible say to support the Chimp?
He will be like a bush in the wastelands; he will not see prosperity when it comes. He will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives.
Jeremiah 17:6

A man tormented by the guilt of murder will be a fugitive till death; let no one support him.
Proverbs 28:17

Repay them for their deeds and for their evil work; repay them for what their hands have done and bring back upon them what they deserve.
Psalms 28:4

The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
Revelation 11:10
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:42 PM
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8. I've learned
not to have event meals with people who just want to pick a topic to argue about. One year I got into with someone over yams v. sweet potatoes and as a result, I have to divide some groups for Thanksgiving and others for Christmas.
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:46 PM
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9. Spent the holiday with friends
I spent the holiday with friends and no troubles. The phone call to my older brother in California - well - he asked If I'd read the latest Michael Savage book. He talked a little about it and since I love him in spite of himself I was just diplomatic and didn't get into it. Since both our parents are gone now and we lost our younger brother as well last year its just me, him and our younger sister - who's a Democrat like me. I just let it go because he's my brother and I love him so why destroy it.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 08:16 PM
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10. We had a great meal and then
all sat around watching a recording of the recent Michael Moore speech and then all applauded at the end and then ate more food.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:21 PM
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13. Luckily, my family all agrees
When politics came up it was more a game of one upmanship to see who could come up with the worst thing Bush and the Republicans have done.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:27 PM
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14. The only disagreement we had was Denver vs. Dallas!
I was touched, though, when my Republican in-laws actually agreed that the McCarthy hearings were wrong. ;)
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:38 PM
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15. Thanksgiving 2000...
i told my wife that it would be best if i skip the dinner with her side of the family, her mother being a staunch repug, and very vocal about it(she also looks a lot like barbara bush). this was of course before the election had been "decided".
promises were made, and NO political talk was to be allowed. but by the time we sat down at the dinner-table my mom-in-law had had a couple glasses of wine...then she started going off on the "stupid" voters in florida who were too dumb to vote.
i don't remember how exactly it escalated after that- i was trying to hold my tongue, but at some point "stupid partisan bitch" came spilling out of my pie-hole.
my wife was in the kitchen when it happened(this was at her sister's house) getting a clean fork...she came back into the dining room with me putting on my coat and handing hers to her, and telling her that we were leaving...
that was the last time i went to ANY meal/get-together at ANY of my in-laws.
and i don't miss them one bit.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:12 AM
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17. Pleasant surprise here
We didn't talk politics but I was going through a list of personal and local woes and someone made some sort of connection and said, Well, Bush will be gone in three years and things will get better.

Her son in a big CEO and the subject of Wal-Mart came up. She said she doesn't like Wal-Mart because they shut down local businesses and he added that they treat their emmployees like human garbage and Home Depot does the same.

I so much prefer these relatives who are genuinely wealhy but hmble about their money. My husband's family is quite the opposite. They desperately want to be wealthy and think they are (they are not). They all listen to Fox news and talk like brainwashed parrots and my b-i-l still has a Bush/Cheney sticker on his truck.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:25 AM
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18. Hmm
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 07:26 AM by fujiyama
By the looks of it, politics has taken a bit of a back seat...I think since the election this has been the case with many families...I know we here on DU are very vocal and it also seems like some DUers were injecting it for fun (I love the sarcastic remarks about phosph use in Fal).

Plus, at this point, people are just so disappointed or tired of this administration's bullshit that there's little to argue about. I mean at this point barely over a third approve of the way he's handling things...

After all, what is a person going to say to defend Bush? What's left? I mean, the last five years have un-arguably been a disaster.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:32 AM
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19. Well not to me personally but I was working (flight attendant) and met a..
a family that lost their son to that idiotic war...
they asked me if i could let them know when we got too 20,000 feet because their son "was in the military and he jumped high altitude jumps over iraq"
so i did and i went back to make sure they heard the announcement and i asked "oh so your son is in the military?" "yes he was" "how old is he?"
"he was 22"
"oh I'm so sorry"
"we lost him in a road side bomb last month"
"oh I'm so sorry"
now i could have said so many things about what i think about this war but i did not..
those poor families who had to have thanksgiving without their sons and daughters because of this stupid war...
how sad
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:34 AM
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21. Too many military families have suffered from this war.
With no sacrifices at all by our leaders or by most Americans. Beyond sad. Tragic.
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