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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:06 PM
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Secret CIA prison identified in Kosovo
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 04:08 PM by tocqueville


according to Le Monde Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo was (is) a miniature Guantanamo

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3214,36-714198@51-705638,0.html

the statement is made by Alvaro Gil Robles, a commissionary for human rights at the European Council

he witnessed 15-20 detainees in orange jumpsuits, reading the Coran. One of the interviewed guards came directly from Gitmo.

Kosovo is under UN mandate but administered by NATO. Camp Bondsteel was (is) in breach with the mandate and a "no-law" area.

I translated the most important.

See even :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051125/ts_nm/security_euro...
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:17 PM
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1. This is the first real reporting on the secret prisons
Unfortunately, I never learned French.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:34 PM
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2. I admit
the tryptophan still has me half-stupid. At first, I thought the link said "lemonade." Brother!

But yes, from what I can recall of ma francais, it says what you say it says.

Good find. Unfortunately, this will appear in the American MSM newscasts somewhere after the latest missing white chick, the latest case of a plane with landing gear trouble and the latest "disturbingly heavy rain" report.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:42 PM
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3. Ah yes, Le Monde, "The World"
Thanks, my French is a little rusty.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:16 PM
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4. I found a report in English
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:10 PM
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5. This confirms what I posted somewhere here yesterday.
somewhere here yesterday. My other thought is that there may be something in Albania, since it was Bunkerland prior to the '90's. The only thing that keeps me from wholeheartedly supporting that view is that the govt. is still very shaky, possibly too much to even think of shoring it up with cash payments.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 07:21 PM
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6. Nominated! Kick This Up Please!
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 07:21 PM by DistressedAmerican
With them having the nerve to go after human rights groups and Durbin for calling them on running a gulag system, I want everyone of these facilities lkated and publicized. If Bush is going to torture, make him do it in the light of day so that EVERYONE knows!

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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:56 PM
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7. US faces fresh prison accusation
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:16 PM
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8. The envoy asked for the facilities to be dismantled -got assurances
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 11:19 PM by upi402
...the following year???
Good thing the 'liberal' media is covering this like a blanket!
(those traitors to democracy must be tried)
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:48 PM
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9. Story in English now
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:52 PM
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10. Photos and more info:
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:05 AM
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11. Camp Bondsteel is Massive
Camp Bondsteel is quite large: 955 acres or 360,000 square meters. If you were to run the outer perimeter, it is about 7 miles. Bondsteel is located on rolling hills and farmland near the city of Ferizaj/Urosevac. There are two dining facilities at Camp Bondsteel: one in North town and one in South town. The food is very well prepared and there are always a variety of main and side dishes to choose from. There are also salad bars, potato bars and multiple dessert offerings. Due to General Order #1, only alcohol-free beer is served, but it is better than nothing! There are set hours for meals, but each dining facility also has a 24-hour section for sandwiches, coffee, fruit, and continental breakfast items.

Soldiers live in SEA (Southeast Asia) Huts. There are about 250 SEA Huts for living quarters and offices. The buildings have five living areas that house up to six soldiers each. Each building has one large bathroom with multiple shower and bathroom stalls. A few buildings have smaller bathroom facilities as well. Female and male sea huts are separate. The beds are comfortable and each room has its own heating/air conditioning unit. Soldiers get their own wall-locker for personal storage, and most opt to purchase a small set of plastic bins for additional storage. You can buy almost anything from the PX to make your living space more comfortable, such as TVs, DVD players, coffee makers and sound systems. Rooms are routinely inspected to make sure they adhere to fire and safety codes. The best way to improve the safety of your room is to purchase an approved surge protector for European voltage, and plug all of your lights and equipment into that. Adaptors are also available so you can plug your 220-compatible devices, like laptops, into the European outlets.

<snip>

Effective force protection is critical for Camp Bondsteel, which is situated on a series of rolling hills with nearby woods on several boundaries. After the 9th Engineer Battalion (Mechanized) used its armored combat earthmovers to create a hasty perimeter, the 94th ECB(H) and Brown & Root Services Corporation jointly completed a 2.5-meter-high earthen berm around the entire perimeter. They removed trees to allow sufficient fields of fire and built nine wooden guard towers around the perimeter. Due to soil, pests, and line-of-sight requirements, the battalion modified the towers by placing each on a concrete pad and adding safer and more accessible entrance ladders. Five of the nine towers were placed on two MILVANS welded together to allow greater visibility. The added elevation enables soldiers to view the area from 18 feet aboveground rather than from the usual eight feet.

<snip>

Camp Bondsteel has an improved detention facility, with a 250 by 350 foot temporary structure composed of tents with plywood sidewalls and floors, electricity, heat, and lights. The project also includes a separate shower point and security measures - perimeter fencing, triple-standard concertina wire, locking gates, and an upgraded guard tower. The facility replaced an interim holding cell at Bondsteel and provides space for persons detained in incidents throughout the US sector in Kosovo.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/camp-bondsteel.htm




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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:03 PM
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14. So where do they hide
the gas chambers?

Is this really that much different?

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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:31 PM
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15. holy shit...
:scared:
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:14 AM
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12. Huge.
That's stunning...
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:59 PM
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13. Yahoo link is not working or pulled
:scared:
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