JP Morgan and his American Legion myth.....

[Neocondriac]

Like many of our one time cherished institutions, as the layers get peeled back we see a much darker self serving core.

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/1920sp4.html

[shance]

1. JP Morgan, along with DuPont, Remington families engaged in attempted coup

to kidnap (or assassinate) Franklin Delanor Roosevelt and overthrow the Executive branch of our government.

They tried to engage General Smedley Butler and bring him in on the plan because they knew he was a beloved General who had the power to rally 500,000 troops, that could march Washington, but the plot was exposed by Butler, who couldn't be bought and stopped the plan in its tracks.

Its in Senate records, though much of the actual plot and names like Morgan and Dupont, who were speculated as being behind the conspiracy itself, were scrubbed from record.

[oneighty]

2. Smedeley Butler

"Everybody knows the American Legion ain't nothing but a bunch of strike breakers"

I have the exact quote in a book UPSTAIRS and the challenge presented to me to venture up the stairs is overwhelming right now.

Maybe later if you are interested.


Whoops! I have the quote all wrong and I did not have to go upstairs to learn that! (Yippppeeeeeeee)

Google-- Smedeley Butler American Legion strike breakers. The quote and more is there.

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[baldguy]

3. I like this quote:

War, like any other racket, pays high dividends to the very few. But what does it profit the masses?...The cost of operations is always transferred to the people who do not profit. ...

But there is a way to stop this racket. It cannot be smashed by disarmament conferences, by peace parleys at Geneva, by resolutions of well-meaning but impractical groups. It can be effectively smashed only by taking the profit out of war.

The only way to stop it is by conscription of capital before conscription of the nation's manhood. ...

Let the officers and directors of our armament factories, our gun builders and munitions makers and shipbuilders all be conscripted--to get $30 a month, the same wage paid to the lads in the trenches. Give capital thirty days to think it over and you will learn by that time there will be no war. That will stop the racket--that, and nothing else.

and here's the rest:
http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/War_is_a_Racket.html

[oneighty]

4. Butler

a most unusual warrior.

He saw long ago the wars for oil and profit and not only did he see them he shouted them out for all to hear.

And even today his MILITARY reputation suffers.

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[shance]

6. I thought he was well respected in Marine ranks.

n/t

[oneighty]

7. He was

I am Navy so I do not have any first hand information. There is a Marine Corp League club in the area. Next time I run into one of the members I will ask.

And then out of curiosity and to maybe answer your post---

I just visited Google; searched (Smedley Butler Marine Corps League) where he is very highly thought of. Marine Corps League Detachment 741 in Pa. is named for Smedley Butler.

Butler was something of a socialist and might be a reason why he had been removed from the site I visited.

He was certainly a soldier's soldier. One cannot do better than that.

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[shance]

9. Absolutely, that is precisely why the wealthy fascists tried to bring him

in on the deal.

It seems he was the only General truly capable of rallying 500,000 troops. MacArthur had betrayed them and Butler stood by them.

They had the arrogance to think he could be bought. How wrong they were.

He also came from Quaker roots I believe.

[oneighty]

10. Butler sided

with the bonus marchers. MacArthur ran the bonus marchers out of town. One of Mac's junior officers was Ike.

Butler did come from a Quaker family so says his bio.

An interesting personality the General Butler, many of his opinions appear to conflict with each other, torn betwixt and between.

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[DefenseLawyer]

5. I attended "Boy's State"

back in the early 80's, sponsored and operated by the American Legion. Without a doubt the most fascist thing I was ever a part of. We literally had to march, in formation, everywhere we went, and as part of a "demonstration" we got tear gassed by the state police, I kid you not.

[Lannes]

8. "The House of Morgan"

Is an interesting bio of the family.Doesnt mention the topics raised in the link but still an interesting read.