FOX news: 30,000 GM layoffs will make life "better for everyone involved"

[Bluebear]

Reminds me of how the Queen Mother Barbara Bush said that Hurricane Katrina is "working out real well" for the victims.

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"Compassionate conservatism" reared its heartless head today (November 21, 2005) on Your World w/Neil Cavuto during a roundtable discussion about today's announcement that General Motors will cut 30,000 jobs and close 10 plants in the US and two in Canada.

Cavuto opened the segment with, "So, should you be worried?" Wayne Rogers, a very frequent guest on Fox's "business news" programs, seemed to think not. He said, "People have been guaranteed a certain standard of living and almost think it's their right to have that." "That is not guaranteed anymore and people are going to have to work it out differently."

Fox's Dagen McDowell said, "You can't count on Uncle Sam. The future of Social Security's clearly in question. You can't count on the company you're working for."

Jonathan Hoenig, another very frequent guest said, "It's terrible that 30,000 people are going to lose their jobs right before the holidays. I mean, it breaks your heart, :nopity: but the truth is, ultimately, it's going to be better for everyone involved. People will rely on their own efforts to prepare for retirement and save, not hope that GM or Delta or United don't go bankrupt."

Cavuto wrapped it up with, "All right. We are masters of our own fate."

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/11/21/fox_says_gm_layoffs_will_make_life_better_for_everyone_involved.php#more

[xultar]

1. Yeah, all that freedom from food, shelter, and a job is way better.

[Fenris]

2. Man, Trapper John sure is a douchebag.

[sepia_steel]

3. My (ex-Rep) husband just cracked me up whe I read this thread title

out loud.

"Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure!" he said.

[neuvocat]

4. Fox News employees should be homeless instead.

THEN life will be better for everyone involved.

Hey Freepers, whattya think about your pals at Fox now, huh?

[SofaKingLiberal]

5. Soon you will hear someone on Fox say that the soldiers coming back

with missing limbs will be better off too.

[tularetom]

6. Wonder how many of them voted for *

because he was "the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with", ya know, not like that snooty French looking Kerry.

[SofaKingLiberal]

9. I'd like to have a beer with Bush,

then I would crack the bottle on the bar and *&*^&& *#*@@% (#(&%(#
((**%& (#(%&)_ ()#%&^.
Don't bother deciphering that Agent Mike, it's nothing.

[Lex]

7. I hope FOX takes their retirements and screws them over

because they DESERVE it.

:grr:

[Deja Q]

43. I'm sure FOX will, actually.

Evil never helps its friends. It only helps itself.

Those who are in with evil think they will be treated well in the end. It won't happen.

[mike_c]

8. OMFG-- I'm speechless....

Unbelievable. People are going to suffer terribly because of this, and those pigs just shrugged and said "oh well, they're on their own!" :mad:

[Patsy Stone]

10. Of course. Didn'ja hear?

It's better to try and find another job than keep the one you have. Jeez, even a kid coulda told ya that!

:crazy:

1984, anyone?

"Every evil is expressed by its opposite, and then simplified into gibberish. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Silence is golden."

[NightHawk63]

11. That's just so typical of every Repug I know....

... I got mine, so fuck you if you aren't good enough to get your's.

[Thom Little]

12. We're BETTER off?!! COOL!! Give us even MORE layoffs!!

:eyes:

[darkmaestro019]

13. Yeah, it worked out better for me every time I was laid off.

To think I was stumbling around with the delusion that hard work was rewarded. I was much better off once the world set me straight.

Every time I ever got laid off I found that without that troublesome paycheck I had plenty of time for videogames, smoking weed and getting laid--and I was always free for the movie matinee--it was that rent and eating and utility bill business that presented the snag. Ah, well. I'm sure I'll adapt. In fact, the nice thing about being herded into making porn for fucking rent is that I can't get laid off--though I'm starting to notice nobody can afford porn at this point. Huh. Well, I'm sure Bog will provide.

:sarcasm:

[progressivebydesign]

14. If the corporate MOFOS stop sending our jobs overseas..

..then perhaps Americans COULD be the masters of their own fate. But what the fuck are people supposed to do?? Move their family to India so that they can have their old breadwinner job back?

I really hate those people... I just do.

[libnnc]

18. WTF are people supposed to do?

We're supposed to get jobs at Walfart and Taco Hell and just shut our pieholes and be grateful for minimum wage and no bennies.

[SoCalDem]

27. Taco Bell will give you a discount on food..not all bad,eh?

:sarcasm:

[Bluebear]

34. Always the optimist!

:hi:

[Bonhomme Richard]

15. They better hope people don't taker that Darwinian view........

to it's logical conclusion. If that happens anyone with money will need bodyguards 24/7.

[Initech]

16. So... let me get this straight... 30,000 people are better off w/ no jobs?

Huh? This coming from the administration that continues to deny that there's a deficit. :argh:

[zoeb]

17. Yeah, they are better off with a Wal-mart retirement

than a stinking GM retirement. Fucking Faux idiots!!!

[Armstead]

19. FUCK THEM

NBC had a new report on the layoffs, and showed a town that was "coping well" with the news.

They interviewed some moron who said "We'll do fine. We have otehr businesses now" as the camera showed a bunch of typical suburban strip mall fast food joints.

yeah those folks who lived a middle class life are going to do really well on McDonald's wages.

Somehow the progapanda has got to stop. We have to stop letting these elitist stooges to keep selling the notion that destroying the human basis of the economy is good for us.

[CAG]

20. OK City is hit with earliest shut down; local RW talk show jerk's only

point was "uh, think Michael Moore's goin to do another movie?"

Typical RW idiot, lets not talk about the issue, lets just make another little meaningless shot at them libruls.

I hope many of the Faux-loving workers at the OKC plant were watching their beloved Faux rich boys and girls telling them they will be all the better for losing their jobs.

[hopeisaplace]

21. Horrendously disgusting ...people on Faux who talk like

this better watch out for Karma

[Bozita]

22. So if GM simply shut their doors for good, that'd be even better

These people are a step beyond unfuckingbelievable.

Only on Faux News.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

23. Is GM a NewsCorp advertiser?

If so, then that explains it. These clowns, moreso than any other "news" organization, would not dare criticize an advertiser.

[donheld]

24. War is peace nt

[Rodger Dodger]

25. I watched that program ...sad

Neal Cavuto wrapped it up with, "All right. We are masters of our own fate."

It time the consumers stop consuming. Boycott the commercial establishments. DO with out! Purchase only food for the next 90 days.

Two thirds of the profits commercial businesses earn each year is said to be earned during the Christmas Season.

We the consumer can put any-one business out of business if we stop purchasing goods from it. Consumers in the USA need to unite.

While in the service the small town near the military post, where I was assigned, treated the G.I.'s very poorly. To teach them a lesson for three months the Post Commander ordered the men to be paid with two dollar bills.

Two dollars bills flooded the north east. They then notified the chamber of commerce to have their member check their cash registers and if there was a two dollar bill in it, it came from a G. I.. They got the message.

Americans should begin to save. As I learned in economic 101 there is only two things you can do with money; save it or spend it. Saving it is a form of delayed spending. So, I suggest lets delay spending for a few months.

It's time to let corporate america know the consumer is King ..."What goes around comes around."

[Occulus]

26. I know this trick!

I knew I recognized it from somewhere; it's the same ugly, abusive little mind game my mom would play with me when I was a kid: make someone think they're on their own, so when something bad happens to them, you avoid any responsibility or sense of obligation to help the situation- even if that person is directly dependent upon you for xyz.

It's a self-fulfilling thing, too, because if you keep telling someone they're on their own, and then yourself demonstrate that when you do nothing where you could do something, well, surprise! You are on your own, because the people you came to depend upon so totally betrayed and abandoned you- usually right when you need them the most.

Is abusive, it's destructive, it's immoral, and it's wrong, but the sad part is, the people who use these games are usually the ones who think it's okay to do so in the first place, or who actually do believe nobody should depend upon anybody else for anything at all and all adults should be completely self-sufficient. They are also people who usually ignore the fact that a person, for example, does have a job: if something bad does happen, like a house burning to the ground, and all the money disappears, to their warped little minds, you should have had a better job.

People who play these games almost always discount and dismiss the actual work and preparation that has been taken; if a person is not prepared, it's their fault for not preparing. Each element, in their minds, locks the others in all the tighter.

It is people like this who should never ever be placed in positions of trust, responsibility, or power. About the most they have to contribute is to ask "would you like fries with that?", because anything more will create wreckage, sometimes permenant, in others' lives.

[blitzen]

28. Just watched Scarborough's take on this

It was an unbelievable orgy of Bush-bashing--two Repubs (Scarborough and Buchanan) and one "Reagan Dem" (Kramer, that "mad money guy") ended up agreeing that there are a helluva lot of middle-America, blue-collar folks who regret ever voting for Bush.

[AuntPatsy]

29. One more and its goodnight, did you also hear that guy go on

about poor bush being picked on? Stating that doesn't the times have better stories to report with all that is going on in the world. Is he serious? Omg, the amount of non life threatening stories he has reported on are too many too count..

Blew me away when he went on about that..he was really outraged..

Spare us the outrage Scarborough...sheehs..hypocrites the lot of em.

[blitzen]

32. actually, i turned it off after the GM story...

I figured he'd be back to his repuke Bush-enabling self

[Jamison]

30. This is what the GOP would like to see.

"People have been guaranteed a certain standard of living and almost think it's their right to have that." "That is not guaranteed anymore and people are going to have to work it out differently."

Translation:

The standard of living people in America have a right to is 50% unemployment, and for the other half who can find work, they can settle for $5.15 an hour with no benefits.:sarcasm:

[OnionPatch]

35. Right or I would translate

You people think you have a right to a middle class? BWAAAAAHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

[vonslagle]

31. GM Employees Deserve it

I Mean come on, they were working for the most evil corporation on Earth! More SUVs were being built by GM than any other corporation.

How many of those "ordinance" that killed innocent Iraqi babies were deivered by Hughs Aircraft, a subsidary of GM?

GM doesn't care about the planet, they don't care about children, and anyone to dumb not to realize that, deserves to be hungry and homeless.

HELLO??!! Wasn't Roger and me made like thirty years ago? Whoever doesn't know that GM is an agent of Satan by now, is a moron. We didn't forgive the SS agents after World War Two, just because they had to feed their families, and I don't care about any GM workes that lose their jobs. The only thing dumber than working for GM is working for Wal Mart.

You sell your soul to satan, then complain you got burned? Please.

[Bluebear]

33. Well, Roger and Me came out in 1989

You suggest that hard-working men and women who perhaps no other trade quit their jobs at, say, age 50 to save the planet? Do you think the factory worker in Lansing, Michigan trying to put food on the table knows who made the ordinances that killed Iraqi babies? Or that they wanted into this war?

Idealism is nice but not always the easiest thing to live out.

As to "anyone to dumb not to realize that, deserves to be hungry and homeless," well that speaks for itself.

[RandomKoolzip]

36. GM is Satan?

Man, I thought Puegeot was Satan! Am I not getting updates from Lake O' Fire Industries HQ anymore?!

This is all so confusing.

[walldude]

39. Now that was a brilliant post

:eyes: You are comparing GM employees to the SS. You are a fucking genius my friend. Your post shows off your incredible ignorance, please entertain us with more troll worthy comments, we wait with baited breath :popcorn:

[theHandpuppet]

37. Didn't they get the memo?

Only CEOs with golden parachutes the size of Nevada shouldn't have to worry that Delta, GM or United will go bankrupt. The workers are on on their own and better get with the program. After all, they can always show up at their (retired) CEO's manse and ask for a job trimming the hedges or cleaning the pool.

[Marr]

38. Hey- if you don't have a house, you don't have to make a house payment!

If you don't have a car, you don't have to make a car payment. And if you don't have medical, well there's another payment you don't have to make!

I actually heard a representative for some big US manufacturer say that once, by the way. They were in Mexico, driving through a poor neighborhood and explaining why they pay such low wages.

[Deja Q]

40. I wish that the same catastrophies would happen to Cavuto and his ilk.

Then it'd be fun to see how they squirm.

I know that wishing pain on thy neighbor is not a good thing; but if we all know how our actions helped or hurt one another, we might change so our actions DON'T cause such hurt.

BTW: With no job in a shit economy with costs of everything increasing by leaps and bounds, how the frig can ANY of us ultimately survive?

A nation of the homeless?!

And cavuto is right. We are masters of our own fate. And we all get the same fate. Even cavuto can't escape. (he can escape high prices for only so long too.)

BTW: If Americans can't count on their own government, the government shouldn't expect us to enlist or do anything to help them either. And, guess what, enlistment numbers continue to plummet. Who's shocked? Only the government. The same one who told us all these years about individuality and how helping people is wrong and that dog eat dog is good. Well, guess what? Under those conditions, people won't make an exception for the government either. Hoisted by their own petard!

[Saphire]

41. Oh, yes, uummm ...in Bizzaro World!

[MN ChimpH8R]

42. Those Faux assholes should get

life in front of a firing squad. Shit, all those folks would probably be even "better off" without food and shelter, too. God these 'puke shitheads make me sick. :grr: :puke:

[madinmaryland]

44. Its better that they get minimum wage jobs

at wal-mart with no benefits? Is that what they are trying to say?

:wtf:

:grr:

[Deja Q]

45. Once we become a nation of stockboys, I bet the people will get angry.

Each person has a boiling point before they blow up.

And by then the "patriot" act will become permanent and martial law declared. (though if we're all supposed to be indoors for curfiew; what if we're all homeless?)

I think more people will commit suicide than turn into a nation of pro-active rabble, however.

Regardless of whatever happens, it won't make the US nor its leaders look very good in the face of the world. Being bedbuddies with a vile fascist nation (China) doesn't help either. And, right now, knowing how bad we look will only be the impetus for the US to change. (right now they're still doing the same, but eventually we'll turn that corner too.)

[HughBeaumont]

46. Shitvuto is one of the most inSUFFerable Bushbots.

I can't take these corporate "blame the victim" apologists. They have the loudest voices and the unemployed fucking believe them. Shillvuto needs to be drop kicked in his fat NECK.

[rman]

47. Just wait untill FOX closes shop.

Let's see how much better things will be then.

[edbermac]

48. Hey Fox, if I were laid off, I wouldn't waste money on cable TV

And when your network goes down the toilet, that most certainly will be better for everyone...

[MellowOne]

49. We're giving away America

We need more companies and industries opening plants and factories not closing them. I believe I read that Americans are now buying more foreign-made products than American. Also, it seems that more companies are doing the self-service thing. Many fast food places are now offering self-serve ordering. It's only a matter of time when people will be replaced with machines and computers. The only answer to people living below the poverty line is more jobs. Not closing plants and sending industry to foreign countries.

[oregonindy]

50. wow.... what a bunch of heartless fuckers.....lets try to get them fired

since it will be better for everyone involved