we don't NEED a plan for exiting Iraq, just pick up and leave, it's simple

[mopaul]

and i'm dead serious. it's like they're talking it to death and it's getting nowhere. 'oh no, great care must be taken when leaving iraq'. 'we broke it now we gotta fix it'. 'if we leave now chaos will reign'. 'to pull out now would tarnish and spit on the memory of the fallen', etc. etc. etc.

just walk away from the fucking mess and let it go to hell all on it's own.

[bahrbearian]

1. It's not that simple , we have the fallen Soldiers to Honor, the

Iraqi people to think about and most importantly. they still have our Oil.

[electron_blue]

2. Just drop of the Key, Lee

Make a new plan, Stan
Just get yourself free....

(With apologies to Paul Simon)

[Redstone]

3. Yup. Just like that.

Cease offensive operations. Defend outselves vigorously on the way out. Pick up our ball and go the fuck home, which could be accomplished in about two weeks.

Then go to the UN and promise that we'll pay for what we broke there, hiring someone who the Iraqis don't hate (Germany? France? Scandinavian countries?) to carry out the actual rebuilding, financed by us.

THIS is the only honorable course of action for us.

Fuck, I repeat fuck that "stay the course" and / or "get the job done" bullshit.

What fucking course?

What fucking job?

Stay there until we have another 53,000 names to put on a new black wall?

No. Just fucking no. I know too many of the names on the Wall we already have.

Redstone

[mopaul]

6. foolish pride will kill thousands more if we let it

[driver8]

4. We can't leave yet -- Dick Cheney and his Halliburton buddies

don't have enough $$ in their retirement accounts, yet.

I agree -- pack up the shit and get the hell out.

[Ms. Clio]

5. I don't even believe it would automatically "go to hell"

The factionalism has been deliberately fostered and nourished by the U.S. and Britain, mostly--it's to their advantage to divide and conquer the Iraqis along sectarian and regional lines.

[mopaul]

7. it'll never be stabilized over there, so we may as well pack it in

[NMMNG]

8. Particularly when our presence only further destabilizes things n/t